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Theres a new super PAC for Bernie Sanders. It wants billionaire donors.
By Colby Itkowitz
July 15
A cornerstone of Bernie Sanderss presidential campaign is extracting billionaire influence from politics.
So imagine our surprise when a Sanders supporter seemed to miss that point and filed with the Federal Election Commission on Wednesday a super PAC called Billionaires for Bernie.
Putting aside the fact that Eric C. Jacobson, the Los Angeles lawyer behind the effort, will have to change the name because unaffiliated PACs cant bear the name of the candidate, the goal of Billionaires for Bernie is exactly as it sounds.
Jacobson is a self-described progressive, who likes Sanders because hes unbossed and unbought. But to get Sanders to the White House means competing at the levels of a Hillary Clinton or Jeb Bush.
And in todays politics, that takes money.
Jacobson believes liberals general position against unlimited contributions in politics is limiting their ability to compete.
Im hoping to facilitate a level playing field where a billionaire of conscience can write a check
and Im going to encourage them to do it, Jacobson told the Loop. In his view, there are plenty of well-heeled liberals who should get in the big money game.
more...
http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/wp/2015/07/15/theres-a-new-super-pac-for-bernie-sanders-it-wants-billionaire-donors/
MoonRiver
(36,926 posts)Super Pacs are the only way he can accomplish that. Thanks, Citizens United.
virtualobserver
(8,760 posts)MoonRiver
(36,926 posts)How many Bernie Sanders' supporters have I read here demonizing Hillary for the Super Pacs supporting her? HYPOCRISY some?
virtualobserver
(8,760 posts)Bernie wants nothing to do with them.
MoonRiver
(36,926 posts)virtualobserver
(8,760 posts)Sanders campaign spokesman Michael Briggs told Boston.com that Sanders does not want billionaires spending unlimited amounts of money for him, or any other candidate
http://www.boston.com/news/politics/2015/07/16/supporter-creates-super-pac-for-bernie-sanders-who-hates-super-pacs/TTiyTWZkp7W09L0cwdmk4I/story.html
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)out of politics and he addressed this pac when asked, he said as he always does, he doesn't approve of them and he doesn't want their money.
Aerows
(39,961 posts)and that Aerows is working for her campaign.
I also heard that Aerows is the most awesome person on the planet.
I also heard that the moon is made of cheese.
Out of all of those things I've heard, only the second one could be independently confirmed via a reaction panel of one.
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)And Aerows, in a recent poll, WAS voted the 'most awesome person in the world'.
Is someone questioning any of this?
Skinner
(63,645 posts)Aerows
(39,961 posts)You are aware of the fact that there is a difference between saying something on the internet and it being a reality, right?
Skinner
(63,645 posts)Aerows
(39,961 posts)has never run with a story that turned out to be false before.
Ahem.
MoonRiver
(36,926 posts)Your point is???
Aerows
(39,961 posts)of my post was not clear? Was it the "media doesn't always get it right" part, or was it the "falsehood mudslinging happens in political campaigns" part?
I'll assert that Iraq had WMD's as an example of ... oh wait.
Cha
(297,154 posts)It doesn't mean BS knows about it.. it just means that the title is correct.
Somebody better grab that guy and let him know.. what's what.
hootinholler
(26,449 posts)Bernie has disavowed PACs. He has no power to prevent anyone from forming one. He cannot legally coordinate with one and I assume, but could be wrong, that knock it off is coordination, so he is powerless to even ask them to stop.
How is that awkward?
TM99
(8,352 posts)projecting on Sanders what is unfortunately quite true of only Hillary Clinton alone.
You are correct.
And he has REPEATEDLY disavowed PAC's. His campaign has clearly stated this time and time again. Thanks the fucking Citizen's United, he can not do anything more than that to stop it. He will NOT take their money.
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)Comrade Grumpy
(13,184 posts)snot
(10,520 posts)Erich Bloodaxe BSN
(14,733 posts)So which is it, stupidity or malice?
Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)behind the scenes.
I wouldn't be at all surprised if Bernie is coordinating in this case.
PowerToThePeople
(9,610 posts)Sheepshank
(12,504 posts)is also the CFO of a PAC that is associated with Bernie. To assume there is no coordination going on is pretty naïve. This is the the same PAC that was recently in the news and fined for forgetting a filing deadlines.
PowerToThePeople
(9,610 posts)Sheepshank
(12,504 posts)I have one for the Bernie affiliation and fines for the PAC. Although I'm tired of posting it over and over for that that can't believe their dude isn't perfectly scrubbed pure.
"The Burlington-based committees treasurer, Phil Fiermonte, a longtime Sanders aide and currently the field director for Sanders presidential campaign, received a letter from the FEC in December warning that the committee may have failed to file required...."
http://www.rutlandherald.com/article/20150704/THISJUSTIN/707049929
What is interesting many of the other media outlets have scrubbed their pages clean of that little tid bit.
Luminous Animal
(27,310 posts) Phil Fiermonte, Sanders longtime state director, is the campaigns field director. Fiermonte, who has worked for Sanders for 16 years, has long been in Sanders inner circle and helped manage his past campaigns. Most recently, he was heavily involved in coordinating the senators upcoming trip to Iowa. He was also previously listed as the treasurer of Sanders leadership PAC. In April, he joined Sanders, Sanders wife Jane and another adviser, Tad Devine, in Vermont for a planning weekend to discuss his bid. Hes a former member of the Burlington City Council and previously worked as executive director of the Vermont American Federation of Teachers. Both he and Weaver are Vermont natives.
Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2015/05/bernie-sanders-2016-campaign-staff-power-players-118282.html#ixzz3gC4AYFv2
And info on Progressive Voters of America here...
https://www.opensecrets.org/pacs/lookup2.php?strID=C00406553
Sheepshank
(12,504 posts)Doesn't say this was a past relationship.....so we are to assume that the guy has nothing to do with Bermie at all..nothing, nada, zip. That's how close professional and personal relationships work? I don't think so.
Luminous Animal
(27,310 posts)he no longer works with Bernie's PAC but rather works on Bernie's campaign.
Similarly, an officer with the Ready for Hillary PAC resigned and joined the Hillary campaign
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ready_PAC#Recent_developments
Snotcicles
(9,089 posts)Luminous Animal
(27,310 posts)has even met Bernie.
Eric C. Jacobson, 59, is a public interest lawyer and civil rights advocate in Los Angeles. He is a member in good standing of the California Bar (BN 170556), District of Columbia Bar (BN 453389) and U.S. Supreme Court Bar. Following a (first half of) student and career life in law, politics, activism, and (briefly) the military (the U.S. Naval Reserves in the 1990s), since 2004 Eric has litigated multiple federal court civil rights impact cases seeking an overhaul of California criminal justice and corrections law, public policy and budgetary priorities -- away from mass incarceration and toward mass rehabilitation; and seeking protection of the 4th Amendment rights of family members of paroled ex-offenders subjected to truculent warrantless residential parole searches. For 5 years prior to that Eric represented and counseled ~400 accused parole violators in parole revocation proceedings. In 2000,
Eric along with three of his fellow state appointed attorneys co-founded the California Association of Parole Defense Attorneys in 2000. His career includes 35 years of public interest advocacy and service in multiple forums, from a Congressional field office (Rep. Ronald V. Dellums) to political campaigns (those of Colorado Sen. Gary Hart [1984 and 1988] and 2 campaigns of his own for Congress [1986] and L.A. Community College District Board of Trustees [1993]), to op-ed pages, courts & websites. His was the chief author of a proposed Congressional resolution of censure of the five Supreme Court justices responsible for Bush v. Gore (www.censurethefive.org) and published an article (in the Los Angeles Daily Journal) and letter to the editor (in the Washington Post) on the first and tenth anniversaries of the infamous ruling in December 2001 and December 2010 respectively.
OnlyBernieBurnsBush
(63 posts)But this PAC is counterproductive.
Warren Stupidity
(48,181 posts)On Fri Jul 17, 2015, 02:11 PM an alert was sent on the following post:
Sounds like either a totally clueless type, or a deliberate sabotage attempt.
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Erich Bloodaxe BSN
(14,733 posts)Instead of the 'Billionaire for Bernie' setting up a SuperPAC against his wishes?
Warren Stupidity
(48,181 posts)I have no clue.
Snotcicles
(9,089 posts)Doctor_J
(36,392 posts)My ignore list is pretty much empty, but I guess it's time.
babylonsister
(171,056 posts)Snotcicles
(9,089 posts)babylonsister
(171,056 posts)WDIM
(1,662 posts)Those dont exist. You have to be a greedy criminal to amass that much wealth.
I hope Bernie refuses their money.
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)WDIM
(1,662 posts)They wouldn't take more than they need when so many go without.
Snotcicles
(9,089 posts)Maedhros
(10,007 posts)99Forever
(14,524 posts)One more time, neoliberal slimers:
Bernie Sanders isn't for sale and those of us that support him know it.
If you want to buy a candidate, there's a couple dozen others that are easy pickins.
cherokeeprogressive
(24,853 posts)Aerows
(39,961 posts)You just have to LOL.
cherokeeprogressive
(24,853 posts)"Sanders seen with prostitutes."
"Last year Bernie Sanders was seen on the same street known to be frequented by prostitutes."
"It is not known whether any prostitutes were on the street at the time."
Aerows
(39,961 posts)seen on same street purported to be frequented by prostitutes."
"It is unknown at this time if the supporter is a gang member or engaged in illicit behavior."
cherokeeprogressive
(24,853 posts)Aerows
(39,961 posts)olddots
(10,237 posts)what bullshit .
RiverLover
(7,830 posts)And its especially good to know that "billionaires of conscience" exist!
Take the money & run Bernie!!