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sufrommich

(22,871 posts)
Fri Jul 17, 2015, 12:49 PM Jul 2015

Hillary Clinton’s No Good, (Record-Breaking, Poll-Winning), Very Bad Week

If you believe the mood and headlines from some of the press, it’s been a pretty rough week for Hillary Clinton. While there was widespread and substantive coverage of the rollout of her economic agenda, politically, it’s a different story. One poll showed so much trouble for Hillary that she only had a higher favorability number than any other candidate it tested.

Even worse, multiple polls released this week show that she leads every candidate running in head-to-head matchups. While it is widely known that the growing Hispanic electorate is critical in deciding the election, new polling shows that Hillary Clinton has a disastrous 68 percent approval rating among Hispanic voters and only leads her closest Republican competition (Bush) by 37 points, 64% to 27%.

Not only that, she raised a record amount of primary money for a candidate in their first quarter, with only $8 million (a sum larger than most Republican campaigns raised in total) in donations of less than $200. Hillary also spent too much money building her organization and was only left with more cash on hand than any other campaign raised and more in the bank than the top three Republican campaigns combined.

It’s true. Hillary is left in the terrible position of having the most resources of any candidate and being voters’ top choice to be the next President of the United States.

https://medium.com/@jmpalmieri/hillary-clinton-s-no-good-record-breaking-poll-winning-very-bad-week-8b982ddf7471


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Hillary Clinton’s No Good, (Record-Breaking, Poll-Winning), Very Bad Week (Original Post) sufrommich Jul 2015 OP
I could use a few of her bad weeks yeoman6987 Jul 2015 #1
KICK................ REC ........................ and MADem Jul 2015 #2
Mushrooms in Vietnam? Kurovski Jul 2015 #3
You need to copy the whole link and paste it into your browser. SunSeeker Jul 2015 #16
That's what I thought, but I'm unable to have done so Kurovski Jul 2015 #21
Donations coming from supporters also and we are just in the beginning of the campaign. Thinkingabout Jul 2015 #4
Small donations coming from people, who would have thunk it. Iliyah Jul 2015 #39
Yes, tell me about it. Thinkingabout Jul 2015 #40
We Are Ready! Gamecock Lefty Jul 2015 #5
Finally a post on DU for Hillary uwep Jul 2015 #6
There are more of us than you think. murielm99 Jul 2015 #7
Hi. Enjoy your stay here... London Lover Man Jul 2015 #8
All in for Hillary, here. LuvLoogie Jul 2015 #10
So agree DownriverDem Jul 2015 #12
Many women disagree. Clinton is not the right candidate.. she is bought and paid for... London Lover Man Jul 2015 #17
No, Hillary Clinton is NOT "bought and paid for".. but, I notice there are those going around Cha Jul 2015 #23
Desperate people ... NanceGreggs Jul 2015 #38
Ditto, and thank you! Iliyah Jul 2015 #41
The "same ol tired cliches" that render them meaninless and have nothing to do with reality. Cha Jul 2015 #43
Stop trying to make DU suck. JaneyVee Jul 2015 #26
Enlightened people! Walk away Jul 2015 #28
Welcome to DU, uwep! calimary Jul 2015 #14
I see you've been around awile, uwep.. so as you know.. Hillary is NOT "bought and paid for" like Cha Jul 2015 #24
Hillary's hiring to some is a bad sign.... Historic NY Jul 2015 #9
Proudly voting for... DownriverDem Jul 2015 #11
Welcome to DU, DownriverDem! calimary Jul 2015 #15
The media needs a horse race and Sanders is their obvious choice. NCTraveler Jul 2015 #13
I think even the media is giving up on Bernie as a serious contender... Walk away Jul 2015 #32
l really like O'Malley. His poll numbers also should be "surging" and or equal Iliyah Jul 2015 #42
I like Alexander better, though. LWolf Jul 2015 #18
My son was obsessed with that book.I don't mean he liked it,I sufrommich Jul 2015 #25
In the 70s, I was reading it LWolf Jul 2015 #29
It struck a cord,that's for sure. sufrommich Jul 2015 #33
I still have a quote from Wher The Sidewalk Ends LWolf Jul 2015 #46
K & R SunSeeker Jul 2015 #19
Hillary Clinton's Mistake on Glass-Steagall. AtomicKitten Jul 2015 #20
The media desperately wants a horse race. DCBob Jul 2015 #22
Many laters on DU would like us to believe Hillary is in trouble Sheepshank Jul 2015 #27
Love your post. As I was driving home riversedge Jul 2015 #30
Yeah, but those sort of b*llsh*t information makes it way to the DU Iliyah Jul 2015 #44
i know. it is unbelievable riversedge Jul 2015 #45
You have to laugh at this crap. It's so absurd that it's hilarious. And if it cracks me up, as Number23 Jul 2015 #31
"How in polls conducted by Latin media, he's losing to Hillary something like 8-1 " DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2015 #34
Well, I'm talking specifically about the Univision polls that lunamagica posted Number23 Jul 2015 #35
The 24-1 is from the Univision Poll...The 36-1 is from the internals of the Suffolk poll DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2015 #36
Well, just doing the math it looks like about 8-1 Number23 Jul 2015 #37
 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
1. I could use a few of her bad weeks
Fri Jul 17, 2015, 12:54 PM
Jul 2015

Her bad weeks are most Americans incredible weeks IF they ever get that.

SunSeeker

(51,512 posts)
16. You need to copy the whole link and paste it into your browser.
Fri Jul 17, 2015, 03:58 PM
Jul 2015

For some reason--I think it is a hyperlink software issue caused by the @ in the link--the hyperlink stops at medium.com.

Here's the full link:

https://medium.com/@jmpalmieri/hillary-clinton-s-no-good-record-breaking-poll-winning-very-bad-week-8b982ddf7471

Kurovski

(34,655 posts)
21. That's what I thought, but I'm unable to have done so
Fri Jul 17, 2015, 04:02 PM
Jul 2015

by dint of posting on a friend's computer and a physical issue.

Just checking.

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
39. Small donations coming from people, who would have thunk it.
Fri Jul 17, 2015, 07:54 PM
Jul 2015

I've heard from reliable sources that only the 1%ers are donating. Hummmmmmmm

uwep

(108 posts)
6. Finally a post on DU for Hillary
Fri Jul 17, 2015, 02:48 PM
Jul 2015

It is about time, after all the denigrating posts. I am happy to see that there are some Hillary supporters on DU.

murielm99

(30,717 posts)
7. There are more of us than you think.
Fri Jul 17, 2015, 02:55 PM
Jul 2015

Some are staying out of the petty fighting. Others are on enforced vacations due to mass alerts. Speak up for Hillary and you get swarmed.

Please come to the Hillary Clinton room. And defend her in other places, where necessary.

 

London Lover Man

(371 posts)
8. Hi. Enjoy your stay here...
Fri Jul 17, 2015, 02:59 PM
Jul 2015

We Bernie supporters don't like Clinton's positions and platform, but we like her personally.

DownriverDem

(6,226 posts)
12. So agree
Fri Jul 17, 2015, 03:29 PM
Jul 2015

I want the first woman president to be Hillary. Millions of women and enlightened men want the same thing.

 

London Lover Man

(371 posts)
17. Many women disagree. Clinton is not the right candidate.. she is bought and paid for...
Fri Jul 17, 2015, 03:59 PM
Jul 2015

And many enlightened men and women knows it, and they prefer Bernie.

Cha

(296,848 posts)
23. No, Hillary Clinton is NOT "bought and paid for".. but, I notice there are those going around
Fri Jul 17, 2015, 06:44 PM
Jul 2015

spreading that misinformation on positive Hillary threads.

NanceGreggs

(27,813 posts)
38. Desperate people ...
Fri Jul 17, 2015, 07:49 PM
Jul 2015

... post desperate things - usually in the form of cliches that get trotted out on a daily basis.

Hillary is bought and paid for by the corporatists and banksters. She is too close to Wall Street, represents the status quo, and has never accomplished anything other than having been married to a president. Her popularity is based solely on name recognition and nothing more. She gets paid for making speeches, which no else has ever done.

She is part of the oligarchy, and a water-carrier for the 1%. In addition, she is a DINO and/or Republican-lite. Any endorsements she gets are the result of nefarious conspiracies, are from people terrified of the Clinton-machine that will ruin them, or are simply unimportant because she was the one who got them. And any endorsements from congressmen/women are “status quo endorsements”.

Hillary’s poll numbers are meaningless, and despite being way ahead in those polls, she can never win the general election. She has too much baggage, and no one trusts her. All of her campaign donations are from Big Banks and her Wall Street buddies, because regular citizens hate her.

Same old/same old. You can't even give her detractors points for creativity - they just keep recycling the same old tired cliches.


calimary

(81,110 posts)
14. Welcome to DU, uwep!
Fri Jul 17, 2015, 03:48 PM
Jul 2015

Glad you're here. Fascinating, isn't it? You'd think she was the worst thing on earth since the Bubonic Plague if you read a lot of the stuff around here. Well, she's not. The pragmatists and more realistic among us understand that change does NOT come with some magic candidate, OR overnight. And we've watched her and taken note of her long time in public service and as a silent partner to her husband during HIS long time in public service. We've recognized her lifetime's work on behalf of women and children here, there, and EVERYWHERE. And her efforts, even though not successful, to try to do something about the health care crisis back during the 90s.

Gotta say, too, that I have been able to shut people up on that one. People who harangued about Hillary this and Hillary that and yeah, her health care panel was for shit and her efforts were for shit and this was wrong and that was wrong and everything was bad-and-wrong and wrad-and-bong and blah-blah-blah. And all I had to say was - "hey, at least SOMEBODY rolled up their sleeves and got in there and TRIED to get something done about it. At least she got in there and tried. At least she jumped into the shark tank and tried, criticism and endless fault-finding be damned. And btw, what, pray tell, did YOU do about it, back then? Sit back in the peanut gallery and snipe, too?" Response? SILENCE.

That one has shut people up like nobody's business. Even the Hillary-haters I know. They've got no comeback for that.

Cha

(296,848 posts)
24. I see you've been around awile, uwep.. so as you know.. Hillary is NOT "bought and paid for" like
Fri Jul 17, 2015, 06:46 PM
Jul 2015

the opposition likes to repeat ad nauseum.

DownriverDem

(6,226 posts)
11. Proudly voting for...
Fri Jul 17, 2015, 03:27 PM
Jul 2015

I will proudly cast my primary vote for Hillary. If Bernie wins the nomination I will proudly vote for him in Nov. 2016. I hope Bernie supporters here will do the same thing if Hillary wins.

calimary

(81,110 posts)
15. Welcome to DU, DownriverDem!
Fri Jul 17, 2015, 03:51 PM
Jul 2015

Good to have you with us! VERY contentious around here and sometimes we Hillary people (who are in the minority here) dare to stick our necks out and then get our heads chopped off. Be STRONG my friend! We're here, and we have your back! I agree with you completely and I'm voting for her in the primaries. But if Bernie winds up getting the nomination, then I'll vote for him. Unfortunately, there are more than a few in his camp who insist they'll do no such thing.

But then again, many are those who would cut off their own noses to spite everyone else's faces.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
13. The media needs a horse race and Sanders is their obvious choice.
Fri Jul 17, 2015, 03:33 PM
Jul 2015

O'Malley is too bland and their isn't anything "unique" about him. There is, but not for the media. He is a wonk. Sanders has played up the "us against the world" meme and it has caught fire with a certain segment. They are invested in pushing up Sanders numbers. The media is not in the bag for him. They just need to provide him cover, often by negative stories on Hillary and positive fluff on Sanders, in order to at least make a race. It is unfortunate they have so much influence. It truly hurts the most qualified person running for President. O'Malley.

A bad week for Hillary would be one of the best years of my life according to her opposition.

Walk away

(9,494 posts)
32. I think even the media is giving up on Bernie as a serious contender...
Fri Jul 17, 2015, 07:24 PM
Jul 2015

MSNBC and CNN are both interviewing groups that are trying to get Biden into the race. It's a pretty sure sign that Sanders is just not gaining support fast enough to even nip at Hillary's heels. The folks at PoliticsNation were practically salivating at Biden's 30% poll numbers if only he would jump in. I don't see it happening but they are desperate for the ratings that a race will generate.

p.s. I believe that Martin O'Malley is a tragically overlooked contender. It really is a shame because his experience and ideas are completely ignored by the press and deserve to be heard by the American people.

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
42. l really like O'Malley. His poll numbers also should be "surging" and or equal
Fri Jul 17, 2015, 08:04 PM
Jul 2015

to BS or higher. Will see.

sufrommich

(22,871 posts)
25. My son was obsessed with that book.I don't mean he liked it,I
Fri Jul 17, 2015, 06:56 PM
Jul 2015

mean he had a full blown obsession with it. I made the mistake of pulling it off the shelf for a bedtime story one night and saying "lets see what this Alexander kid is up to" ,he was 4 at the time,I swear he was 5 before he got tired of it. I still tremble at the sight of that book. But,yeah,he was a cute little brat.

LWolf

(46,179 posts)
29. In the 70s, I was reading it
Fri Jul 17, 2015, 07:15 PM
Jul 2015

to groups of kids in a school library, again and again and again, and never got tired of it.

sufrommich

(22,871 posts)
33. It struck a cord,that's for sure.
Fri Jul 17, 2015, 07:25 PM
Jul 2015

He graduated to Where The Sidewalk Ends,which will forever be my favorite book to foist on kids.

LWolf

(46,179 posts)
46. I still have a quote from Wher The Sidewalk Ends
Sat Jul 18, 2015, 10:57 AM
Jul 2015

in my middle school classroom today:

If you are a dreamer, come in,
If you are a dreamer, a wisher, a liar,
A hope-er, a pray-er, a magic bean buyer...
If you're a pretender come sit by my fire
For we have some flax-golden tales to spin.
Come in!
Come in!

 

AtomicKitten

(46,585 posts)
20. Hillary Clinton's Mistake on Glass-Steagall.
Fri Jul 17, 2015, 04:01 PM
Jul 2015

Originally from Robert Reich's blog.

Hillary Clinton won’t propose reinstating a bank break-up law known as the Glass-Steagall Act — at least according to Alan Blinder, an economist who has been advising Clinton’s campaign. “You’re not going to see Glass-Steagall,” Blinder said after her economic speech Monday in which she failed to mention it. Blinder said he had spoken to Clinton directly about Glass-Steagall.

This is a big mistake.

It’s a mistake politically because people who believe Hillary Clinton is still too close to Wall Street will not be reassured by her position on Glass-Steagall. Many will recall that her husband led the way to repealing Glass Steagall in 1999 at the request of the big Wall Street banks.

It’s a big mistake economically because the repeal of Glass-Steagall led directly to the 2008 Wall Street crash, and without it we’re in danger of another one.

more at http://billmoyers.com/2015/07/16/hillary-clintons-mistake-on-glass-steagall/

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
22. The media desperately wants a horse race.
Fri Jul 17, 2015, 04:06 PM
Jul 2015

Unfortunately for them there is no real competition for the one decent horse in this race.

riversedge

(70,084 posts)
30. Love your post. As I was driving home
Fri Jul 17, 2015, 07:20 PM
Jul 2015

this afternoon I turned on talk radio for a bit. yes, was hannity shooting his vile mouth off. nothing but Right wing hate radio in this area--besides I do tune in a bit once a week to see what the enemy is chatting about.


Anyway. he was giving an overview of his upcoming hour and said it was a bad week for Hillary claiming one poll had her favoribility down to 32. my ears perked up cause I had seen this weeks polls and I did not recall anything about that. then he ragged on about Obama and his refusal to say the words radical Islam etc etc etc. I turned it off then.


I did check once I got home to see if a new poll was out. That lying sack of pig poop.

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
44. Yeah, but those sort of b*llsh*t information makes it way to the DU
Fri Jul 17, 2015, 08:10 PM
Jul 2015

with threads by the dozens making it to the GD.

Number23

(24,544 posts)
31. You have to laugh at this crap. It's so absurd that it's hilarious. And if it cracks me up, as
Fri Jul 17, 2015, 07:22 PM
Jul 2015

someone who is fairly lukewarm on Hillary and would be happy with any of the candidates, then as a Hillary supporter it has to be either side-splitting or maddening as hell.

On DU, we are constantly regaled with how Sanders is "surging" because he's now only losing by 20 or 30 points.

How in polls conducted by Latin media, he's losing to Hillary something like 8-1 but he got more "applause" from the 400 folks at La Raza that went to see him than Hillary got from the 2000 that went to see her and that these somehow balance each other out.

That Hillary's numbers and support are "slipping" because she was LEADING in some state or among some constituency by 57% and it's now dropped to 52%.

And I just read the Grand Puba of stupidity, the one to top them all. That when someone asked about the fact that Sanders has not gotten a single congressional endorsement, someone actually replied that this was actually a "good" thing because Bernie represents the "will of the people" and doesn't need Congress. If a 2nd grader said something that bleeding stupid, you'd just smile and nod. What do you say when somebody who's probably older than you says something that dumb? That ignorant of how American politics works?

So whenever I see the "Hillary is slipping!!11" either from the media or DU, and the article shows how she's dropped from whipping somebody's ass by 42% to only 36%, I just laugh. What else can you do?

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,708 posts)
34. "How in polls conducted by Latin media, he's losing to Hillary something like 8-1 "
Fri Jul 17, 2015, 07:27 PM
Jul 2015

24-1 to be precise and 36-1 among African Americans.

Number23

(24,544 posts)
35. Well, I'm talking specifically about the Univision polls that lunamagica posted
Fri Jul 17, 2015, 07:33 PM
Jul 2015

But it's bad every which way that you look at it.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,708 posts)
36. The 24-1 is from the Univision Poll...The 36-1 is from the internals of the Suffolk poll
Fri Jul 17, 2015, 07:44 PM
Jul 2015

i only report it for your benefit.


Number23

(24,544 posts)
37. Well, just doing the math it looks like about 8-1
Fri Jul 17, 2015, 07:47 PM
Jul 2015
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251449163

73 percent said they would vote for Clinton. No other challenger breaks double digits.

Even if Sanders got 9 percent, Hillary's 73 percent would still be about 8-1. Where are you seeing 24-1?
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