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Tue Jun 12, 2012, 10:06 AM

Top conservative says read my lips: Don’t sign ‘no new tax’ pledge

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Top conservative says read my lips: Don’t sign ‘no new tax’ pledge
By Jonathan Karl, Richard Coolidge, Gregory Lemos & Sherisse Pham

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As a conservative Republican, Lindsey Graham has never had a problem promising not to raise taxes. Like almost every other Republican member of Congress, during his last re-election campaign, he signed the anti-tax pledge put forth by Grover Norquist's group Americans for Tax Reform.

But now Graham says the debt crisis is so severe that the tax pledge — which says no tax loopholes can be eliminated unless every dollar raised by closing loopholes goes to tax cuts -- has got to go.

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This puts Graham at odds with his party's leadership. Just last August, when the eight Republican presidential candidates were asked if they would reject a deal with $10 in spending cuts for every $1 in revenue, all eight said they would walk away. But Graham is now raising his hand for increased revenues — he says he could support a plan that included $4 in spending cuts for every $1 in increased tax revenue.

"We're so far in debt, that if you don't give up some ideological ground, the country sinks," said Graham.

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Reply Top conservative says read my lips: Don’t sign ‘no new tax’ pledge (Original post)
babylonsister Jun 2012 OP
jpbollma Jun 2012 #1
xtraxritical Jun 2012 #12
BlueToTheBone Jun 2012 #2
davidwparker Jun 2012 #9
BlueToTheBone Jun 2012 #11
Wounded Bear Jun 2012 #3
rfranklin Jun 2012 #4
jpbollma Jun 2012 #5
Alcibiades Jun 2012 #14
WingDinger Jun 2012 #6
SoutherDem Jun 2012 #7
WingDinger Jun 2012 #8
Thinkingabout Jun 2012 #10
liberalnationalist Jun 2012 #13
Alcibiades Jun 2012 #15
hrmjustin Jun 2012 #16
AlinPA Jun 2012 #17

Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Tue Jun 12, 2012, 10:13 AM

1. wow, maybe we are getting somewhere then.

This will cause a huge fight with the Tea Party. It is also against their presidential nominees statements (however, we know he can always do another flip flop).

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Response to jpbollma (Reply #1)

Tue Jun 12, 2012, 10:24 PM

12. All republiCONs are trying to move to the center now.

The last thing centrist repubs want is for the far right Tparty faction to tank the economy and credit rating of the US at year end. Also they know that they have to appear to be more moderate now, for the general election in Nov. Vote a straight Democratic ballot.

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Tue Jun 12, 2012, 10:21 AM

2. There goes Graham's election. n/t

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Response to BlueToTheBone (Reply #2)

Tue Jun 12, 2012, 05:40 PM

9. Never. Grover is basically a bully and needs to be confronted.

He may be able to take out a congressman in some backwater hell hole, but not a red senator in a red southern state.

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Response to davidwparker (Reply #9)

Tue Jun 12, 2012, 07:16 PM

11. I don't think Richard Lugar was in a backwater and look

he's gone.

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Tue Jun 12, 2012, 10:28 AM

3. Imagine that....

he's actually making noises about the country being more important than his idiot fucking ideology.

Kind of sad, really. He might get enough moderate/blue dog votes with comments like that to get re-elected and continue to carpet bomb the country.

Went all the way down to 4/1 for cuts/revenue, eh? I say we tell him to fuck off and go for 1/1.

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Tue Jun 12, 2012, 10:43 AM

4. It's the stench of desperation....

 

They know that their scams are no longer working on the electorate.

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Response to rfranklin (Reply #4)

Tue Jun 12, 2012, 10:54 AM

5. Also, The Devil is in the Details

He probably wants the 4x in cuts to be all in social programs and all the 1x in revenue for the military. That is a deal breaker for me personally, however, they could probably get enough Democrats to push that through the Senate.

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Response to jpbollma (Reply #5)

Tue Jun 12, 2012, 11:09 PM

14. Also, the funds cut should be proportional

South Carolina is an exceptionally large recipient of federal largesse. If Senator Lindsey wants so many cuts, he should start with the Sandlapper state, because it gets far more than its fair shgare from Washington.

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Tue Jun 12, 2012, 11:06 AM

6. I was wondering when they would get around to slaying their last RINOs. Lieberman, McCain and Graham

 

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Response to WingDinger (Reply #6)

Tue Jun 12, 2012, 12:15 PM

7. The more division in the Republicans the better for us

What I would love is to see is such infighting that they really split. One the Republican party similar to the one of many years ago and one far to the right.

This would hopeful divide their vote and the money.

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Response to SoutherDem (Reply #7)

Tue Jun 12, 2012, 12:21 PM

8. If Obama wins, they will split.

 

There will be so much navel gazing and self important posturing, and mainstream media hangin on every thought, I will puke.

To the almost irrelevance of Dems agenda. So as to smash any political capital he might possess.

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Tue Jun 12, 2012, 06:33 PM

10. Lindsey Graham should be admired for standing up to speak the truth.

It is going to take more strong people standing up for the truth to get this country back on track. It will never happen with Boehner wimping out and crying and not facing the truth. If Grover is going to call all the shots he needs to pay the salaries and expenses of the wimps he has gotten to sign his pledge. He is only one and can not vote but the one time, forget about him.

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Response to Thinkingabout (Reply #10)

Tue Jun 12, 2012, 11:05 PM

13. admired?

 

don't think so....some polls show SC a toss up for Obama...unheard of in the South..Karl Rove's map has it as a toss up last time I looked...

the republican party is going to split...I just hope its before the election!

the left needs a landslide, a electoral shift for once!

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Response to liberalnationalist (Reply #13)

Tue Jun 12, 2012, 11:10 PM

15. It's not unheard of

North Carolina, after all, went for Obama in 2008.

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Response to Thinkingabout (Reply #10)

Wed Jun 13, 2012, 07:00 PM

16. Admired is a strong word but I see that he made a good point.n/t

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Wed Jun 13, 2012, 07:05 PM

17. He will retract that statement after a phone call by Limbaugh or Norquist.

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