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Tue Jun 12, 2012, 04:47 AM

MT ES&S failures cast further doubt on 100% unverifiable WI recall results

Bradblog details some of the latest gaffes surrounding the use of the ES&S technology (if it deserves that designation). When will people realize that votes tabulated on computers are impossible to verify without hand-counting paper ballots?

http://www.bradblog.com/?p=9342

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Reply MT ES&S failures cast further doubt on 100% unverifiable WI recall results (Original post)
Stevepol Jun 2012 OP
fasttense Jun 2012 #1
caraher Jun 2012 #2
shcrane71 Jun 2012 #4
Botany Jun 2012 #6
RC Jun 2012 #3
postulater Jun 2012 #5
Blue Owl Jun 2012 #7
brooklynite Jun 2012 #8

Response to Stevepol (Original post)

Tue Jun 12, 2012, 06:31 AM

1. The right wing talking point is that WI voters don't approve of recalls.

I even hear very liberal people say it. The RepubliCONS started using that talking point long before the campaign ever started. And it sunk in.

Americans will fall for anything as long as there are expensive commercial about it.

We have faith based voting. We have faith that RepubliCONS wont cheat when it comes to counting votes. Though we know RepubliCONS will cheat, we just pretend that they are counting (or NOT counting) the votes fairly. We know corporations own the secret code in our voting machines and we know corporations will do anything, even murder, to get more money. But we pretend that, just in this instance, the corporate machines are counting accurately and fairly.

Give Americans a slick overpriced commercial that explains away facts and they will fall for it every time.

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Response to fasttense (Reply #1)

Tue Jun 12, 2012, 07:04 AM

2. Why not embrace that "talking point?"

It seems to me that if the RW say WI voters are against recalls generally, they can't also claim the official result indicates voters approve of Walker's policies. At least not if they're going to be logically consistent...

Oh.

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Response to fasttense (Reply #1)

Tue Jun 12, 2012, 09:35 AM

4. Marketing works, when combined with extortion (private sector won't create jobs unless you vote

Republican), money, and fear.

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Response to fasttense (Reply #1)

Tue Jun 12, 2012, 10:09 AM

6. Bingo! Look away from the stolen election because the real reason it turned ....

..... out like it did was because the people were upset by the recall. Rinse lather
and repeat.

Wisconsin's vote on Walker was too important to be left up to the people.

http://richardcharnin.wordpress.com/

Wisconsin Recall: The adjusted Final Exit Poll was forced to match an unlikely recorded vote

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Response to Stevepol (Original post)

Tue Jun 12, 2012, 08:56 AM

3. As commenter noted:

 

Brad, would you clarify something for me? When kids take the SAT or ACT tests for college, they are always optically scanned using the same fill in the bubble format. So far as I know, they are considered reliable and presumably inexpensive. Why are the balloting machines so eminently screwy and expensive?


Only on ballots is there a continuing problem. Why not on other things that use the fill in the oval?
And why should voting machines, or even the tabulators cost $50,000 to $60,000 each!
The Electronic Touch Screen Voting Machines should run around a couple of hundred dollars each, at the very most. They are basically touch screen computers.
The optical scanners should cost less than two thousand. We are not talking SAT scores here, but it is the exact same technology, so what is the problem? Experimenting to find the most efficient way to swinging the election to the Right?

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Response to Stevepol (Original post)

Tue Jun 12, 2012, 09:43 AM

5. So what can we do about it?

Maybe we can find one person in each precinct to stand outside the polls on election day and pass out fact sheets about the scanner in use.

It would take minimal time, minimal investment and would reach lots of people. Especially when presented in a non-partisan approach.

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Response to Stevepol (Original post)

Tue Jun 12, 2012, 11:26 AM

7. The TV says Scott Walker's a winner.

Don't trust your own common sense, trust the TV. So go ahead and buy that used car Scott Walker is selling.

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Response to Stevepol (Original post)

Tue Jun 12, 2012, 12:51 PM

8. And yet, Barrett didn't challenge the result.

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