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Tue Jan 24, 2012, 08:55 AM

Is Mitt forfeiting Florida

After the horrible last 2 weeks he has had, he has lost his double digit lead in Florida. He is now trailing Newt by double digits in Florida. Releasing his Taxes now is not going to improve his chances in Florida, it will certainly hurt them.

Is Mitt basically forfeiting Florida just to try and get the Tax story behind him now so he can be stronger down the road?


Seems like a big gamble to me, if Newt blows him out in 2 states back to back it will create giant momentum that might carry Newt all the way home. Newt winning is a very good thing for the Democrats but just what the heck is Mitt thinking?

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Response to krawhitham (Original post)

Tue Jan 24, 2012, 08:59 AM

1. I Think The Tax Story is Hurting Him

 

....so he decided to do a partial release ASAP....he probably does not believe he can win any state, until he gets it behind him. I wouldn't call it a forfeit - just the timing is not working out for him.

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Response to krawhitham (Original post)

Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:23 AM

2. It seems that Republicans will not to nominate a candidate that is the definition of "effette".

 

Probably goes back to the Spiro Agnew days.

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Response to krawhitham (Original post)

Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:26 AM

3. "Newt winning is a very good thing for the Democrats" Yes.....Unless it isn't.

Then I worry. Ever since Reagan won, and then G.W. Bush won, I never take it for granted that someone truly terrible cannot win in the good old U.S.A.

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Response to yellowcanine (Reply #3)

Tue Jan 24, 2012, 10:42 AM

5. +100

 

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Response to yellowcanine (Reply #3)

Tue Jan 24, 2012, 11:21 AM

6. I'm not worried about Newt

If he has a "sunny" personality like Reagan or was what passes for handsome in republican land, then I'd worry. The last angry president this country elected was Nixon. And we don't elect people who looks like a troll for President.

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Response to leftynyc (Reply #6)

Tue Jan 24, 2012, 11:37 AM

7. You forget George W. Bush. No sunny personality he....and he was a different kind of angry man.

No he wasn't nasty and petulant angry like Nixon.

But he was sarcastic bullying angry.

Hopefully the memory is fresh enough that we would not repeat. But I really do hate to take the chance.

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Response to yellowcanine (Reply #7)

Tue Jan 24, 2012, 12:21 PM

9. He wasn't nasty and petulant

when he first ran....remember he was the one everyone wanted to have a beer with. I belive "amiable dunce" was the best description of him early on. Cheney, on the other hand, was always a dick.

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Response to leftynyc (Reply #9)

Tue Jan 24, 2012, 01:17 PM

10. As I said - more than one kind of angry......Bush was a bully who covered it with "joking around,"

giving people nicknames, etc. In some ways that is worse. Bush was the high school kid who pretended to be your best buddy so that he could copy your homework and then he would show you up in front of his cronies. Rather than amiable dunce, he was a sly conniving bastard. I never wanted to have a beer with him.

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Response to yellowcanine (Reply #10)

Wed Jan 25, 2012, 05:17 AM

12. I never trusted him either

but my point is the same. Even he knew he had to cover up the nasty to get elected. EVERYONE knows Newt is nasty so he has a choice - try and cover it up which wont work (he's a hothead who cannot let any slight lay there - he has to be a dick about it) or stay the angry man he is - I don't think that gets elected.

My dad fears all demigogues (sp?) and has absolutely no faith in the country that voted for W. When he asks how I can be so optimistic I answer that he raised me that way - drives him crazy.

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Response to krawhitham (Original post)

Tue Jan 24, 2012, 10:38 AM

4. Nope, he's invested over $7 million into FL already and remember

he may be down right now by 5 points or so, but so was Newt down in SC. And the media is saying this morning that Mitt got the best of the debate last night. Thursday's debate will be pivotal to both Mitt and Newt.

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Response to krawhitham (Original post)

Tue Jan 24, 2012, 12:03 PM

8. I don't think he's forfeiting and I don't think there is a "double digit" lead

There was a poll today that had Gingrich up 5 with a week to go.

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Response to krawhitham (Original post)

Tue Jan 24, 2012, 01:21 PM

11. T don't think he has that luxury...

After Florida, everything pretty much stops for a month. That means the only thing the media will have to focus on is "Why Mitt lost", "Can Mitt recover", "Is Mitt's team collapsing", "is the GOP panicking" etc. stories.

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Response to krawhitham (Original post)

Wed Jan 25, 2012, 06:32 AM

13. While I don't watch broadcast networks much

I tuned in last night for the SOTU. Mitt and his packs are running alot of strong negative ads against Newt in Fl. I saw several unique 30 second attacks in the few political ads I saw. In fact most of the ads I saw were attacks on Newt, they were more common than commercial ads.

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Response to krawhitham (Original post)

Wed Jan 25, 2012, 07:04 AM

14. There is an amusing term for this maneuver, but I forget it.

As far as the taxes go, the idea is to air out the dirty laundry long before the general election season, in hopes that the public will tire of the story and so Romney can evade further discussion of it in the future with "asked and answered." The extra time will also allow for the Romney camp's own counter-lies to do their work.

That still doesn't explain why Romney would release the figures on the very day that President Obama pinned his own reelection on raising taxes on people like Mitt.

Taken all together, that's beyond stupid... is Mitt working for President Obama?

(As I pointed out elsewhere, earlier, the limited release of tax information will instantly spur investigators to look for what Romney's hiding, as well as pique public interest. But Mitt's holding a dirty dog and doesn't seem to care if he tosses the dog on the couch. I guess he assumes the help will clean that up for him...)

As far as Florida goes, perhaps Mitt isn't forfeiting the race there so much as considering it in the bag and moving on. I'm not sure there has been a fair election in Florida since 1998. Maybe Mitt knows there hasn't been one and thinks he's got that race... "secured," as Karl Rove would put it.

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