2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumWhere exactly does Bernie Sanders stand on Citizens United?
And where do you stand?
If a corporation is considered a "person,"
why can't a person be considered a corporation,
with all the rights and privileges that status endows?
There are serious implications here, not just free speech issues.
There are economic issues.
arcane1
(38,613 posts)As am I.
razorman
(1,644 posts)it has to do with the concept that a corporation has "personhood" for the purposes of political involvement. Is that right? Also, has there been any question of this applying to labor unions and other organizations, as well? Is there any possibility of the decision being reversed?
arcane1
(38,613 posts)CU does apply to other organizations like labor unions, but they are vastly out-spent by corporations.
PosterChild
(1,307 posts)....it has to do with the freedom of people to form organizations to represent and promote political beliefs and ideas.
Such organizations, like the ACLU, Planned Parenthood, PETA, Green Peace, are the vehicle people use in modern society to excersize their free speach rights. Standing on the corner with a bull horn doesn't cut it anymore.
The decision , however, was overly broad. It should have been limited to organizations that are specifically founded for issue advocacy and education.
GeorgeGist
(25,318 posts)from my perspective. John Roberts made his mark as a corporate hack shill lawyer.
99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)John Nichols on April 11, 2014 - 4:42 PM ET
Citizens United is not just the default reference for US Supreme Court decisionsincluding the 2010 Citizens United v. Federal Election Commission rulingthat have ushered in a new era of corporate dominance of American elections. Its the name of the conservative group that encouraged Chief Justice John Roberts and the most activist Court majority in American history to tear the heart out of what were already weak campaign finance laws.
Citizens United still exists as an activist group that produces documentariesACLU: At War with America, Border War: The Battle Over Illegal Immigration, Fire From the Heartland: The Awakening of the Conservative Woman, America at Risk: Hosted by Newt and Callista Gingrichand organizes gatherings that highlight right-wing policies and politicians. On Saturday, Citizens United hosted something of a kickoff for the Republican presidential race in the first-primary state of New Hampshire.
Organized in collaboration with the Koch brothersfunded Americans for Prosperity Foundation, Citizens Uniteds Freedom Summit attracted a list of peakers that included leading contenders (and wannabes) for the GOP nod. Indeed, Greg Moore, the director of AFP-New Hampshire, described the summit as the first cattle call of 2016.
http://www.thenation.com/blog/179306/bernie-sanders-versus-rand-paul-ted-cruz-mike-huckabee-and-citizens-united
PosterChild
(1,307 posts).... in support of Citizens United's right to free speach. They made a "documentary" movie and charged people to see it in rented theaters. For that they were punished by the FEC.
I believe the decision was overly broad - it should have been limited to non profit corporations that have issue advocacy and education, not electioneering, as their purpose - like the ACLU itself.
karynnj
(59,501 posts)davidpdx
(22,000 posts)My question is, if corporations are people why the fuck can't we stab them to death.