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egbertowillies

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Sat Feb 14, 2015, 01:14 PM Feb 2015

We discuss the Atheist/Muslim/Bill Maher conversation I stepped into on Politics Done Right

Last edited Sat Feb 14, 2015, 10:21 PM - Edit history (1)

This week’s show

Today we discuss the Atheist / Muslim / Bill Maher conversation I stepped into on Politics Done Right.



This week I stepped into it big time. I made the following post on the Coffee Party USA Facebook page.

The reaction was mostly negative towards the post. I received threats by message and emails. What did I do wrong? I had the gall to call out Bill Maher using a nuanced and to some extent condescending tone to point out why his rigid stance on Muslims was neither correct or helpful. Since the person that killed the three students claimed he was an atheist I was trying to see if empathy would reign base on how some would attempt to vilify all atheists for the act.

The reaction was to make no attempt to understand that I was on the side of most that were slamming me with the expectation that there would be some introspection. Anyway, this is what we will discuss on Politics Done Right today.

What are your thoughts? Let’s talk. I will also be following our hash-tag #PoliticsDoneRight on Twitter. Give me a call.

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We discuss the Atheist/Muslim/Bill Maher conversation I stepped into on Politics Done Right (Original Post) egbertowillies Feb 2015 OP
I find those who play strong identity games with the victims and committers of hate crimes troubling Bluenorthwest Feb 2015 #1
 

Bluenorthwest

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1. I find those who play strong identity games with the victims and committers of hate crimes troubling
Sun Feb 15, 2015, 05:28 PM
Feb 2015

Clearly you see some meaning in this criminal being an atheist. But hate crimes are not uncommon. The primary victims of those crimes in the US are not targeted for their religion, the largest number of hate crimes are committed out of bias against the victim's race or sexuality. Since you are very clearly a heterosexual, let's talk about anti LGBT crimes in America.
Every year, there are hundreds and hundreds of such crimes. Every year there are murders, rapes, savage beatings. Multiple crimes each day. Virtually every one of those is committed by a heterosexual person. A very large number of those criminals cite their own faith as motive for attacking an LGBT person.
What does that say about the straight community? What does it say about you? Anything? The fact that you are straight and every day other straight people commit hate crimes, do those two things really relate to one another? If not, then how does being an atheist relate to some criminal being an atheist? How can it be meaningful that this criminal was an atheist if it is said to be irrelevant that many hate criminals shout about religion while committing their crimes?
What you posted is the exact same thinking as Republicans who expect random Muslims to answer for criminal nut jobs because the criminals are also Muslim. It would be like me holding you to account for the thousands of hate crimes done by straight men against LGBT people.

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