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Cal33

(7,018 posts)
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 11:59 AM Nov 2014

This article of 11/20/14, shows Warren ahead of Clinton by 42% to 23%. Sanders is second with 24%.

In another year, I think it's possible that there might be a groundswell of Democrats asking Warren to run. She is becoming
ever more popular.

<< Massachusetts Sen. Elizabeth Warren -- not Hillary Clinton -- is the top progressive choice for president in 2016, according to a new poll. In fact, Clinton doesn't even make second place. Forty two percent of respondents favor Warren, and Vermont Independent Senator Bernie Sanders also edges out Clinton with 24% compared to her 23%, according to results from the 2016 Presidential Pulse Poll commissioned by progressive grassroots organization Democracy for America.

These results come amid a groundswell of activism from the Democratic party's more liberal wing, which has called for a contested 2016 primary and has often questioned Clinton's financial ties to Wall Street.

"Elizabeth Warren won by a large margin because she inspires Democrats by valiantly fighting for populist progressive policies to address income inequality in the face of Wall Street resistance -- and because she regularly engages with the grassroots base of her party," said Charles Chamberlain, the group's executive director, in a release of the poll.

He noted, however, that the poll's biggest finding is not that support for Warren among liberal voters is widespread, but that progressives want to make sure that the Democratic nomination process is a "contest, not a coronation." >>

http://www.cnn.com/2014/11/20/politics/elizabeth-warren-leads-poll/index.html

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This article of 11/20/14, shows Warren ahead of Clinton by 42% to 23%. Sanders is second with 24%. (Original Post) Cal33 Nov 2014 OP
Damn straight. NT NYC_SKP Nov 2014 #1
Kickin' Faux pas Nov 2014 #2
K&R for a "contest, not a coronation." Autumn Nov 2014 #3
Link to actual results? Cosmic Kitten Nov 2014 #4
Sorry, but the only link I know of is the one in the OP. :) Welcome to DU. Cal33 Nov 2014 #5
In a poll among DFA members frazzled Nov 2014 #6
We still have 2 years to go. During that time anything could happen. I'm making no predictions. Cal33 Nov 2014 #8
Indeed; I'm expecting a late surge for Dennis Kucinich. brooklynite Nov 2014 #12
According to Washington Post reported on 11 20 2014 poll Thinkingabout Nov 2014 #7
For someone who has repeatedly said she wasn't running in 2016, 8% seems to be a rather high number. Cal33 Nov 2014 #9
Why? Think about how many people HERE ignore what she says... brooklynite Nov 2014 #11
Who would you expect to be the choice of progressive political activists? brooklynite Nov 2014 #10
Among the general population Hillary is poling very well in front of others. Thinkingabout Nov 2014 #13
in a poll of 8 people, so and so gets 50% of the vote ... samsingh Nov 2014 #14
Meanwhile, a poll of Wall Street hedge fund managers had Hillary running away with it. Scuba Nov 2014 #15
This is Great News! jalan48 Nov 2014 #16
"New car smell" n/t Ellipsis Nov 2014 #17
Maybe cozying up the the Wall Street cartels wasn't a good strategy after all Dopers_Greed Nov 2014 #18
I really wonder what's going to happen in two years. I feel it's going to be a hell of a ride Cal33 Nov 2014 #19
Or perhaps it is QuestionAlways Nov 2014 #24
Let's punch up that headline, shall we? brooklynite Nov 2014 #20
Oh boy. An internet poll onenote Nov 2014 #21
Wait. Just......wait. Arthur_Frain Nov 2014 #22
Yes, we still have two more years to go. By that time, who knows what the political scene might Cal33 Nov 2014 #27
They must have done their poll at DU. Lil Missy Nov 2014 #23
Her "inevitability" and LiberalElite Nov 2014 #25
The title of this article is "Liberal Poll 2016." That would exclude the 3rd Way Democrats, Cal33 Nov 2014 #26
She's not running and has said so repeatedly. Enough of the pipe dream. RBInMaine Nov 2014 #28
Have you ever watched a Presedential Election before? No one is running until they are Exultant Democracy Dec 2014 #30
Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2014 #29
Polls of a small subset of those who will be voting in the primaries doesn't tell you much. stevenleser Dec 2014 #31
Yes, but we still have nearly 2 years to go. Who can foresee what the political situation will be Cal33 Dec 2014 #32

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
6. In a poll among DFA members
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 12:38 PM
Nov 2014

We've already been through this in other threads. While interesting (like the conservative CPAC straw poll that recently chose crazy neurosurgeon Ben Carson or the Value Voters poll that chose Ted Cruz), these are just polls of interest groups that have a cohesive ideological bent. They are not public polls. End of story on my end. Of course, it won't stop people from putting on their rose-colored glasses and predicting the next president of the United States. Kind of reminds me of the Internet love-fest surrounding John Edwards, who was the progressive savior (where the hell that ever came from I don't know: he was one of the most conservative Democrats in the Senate during his brief tenure there) and was going to wipe all the other candidates off the map.

 

Cal33

(7,018 posts)
8. We still have 2 years to go. During that time anything could happen. I'm making no predictions.
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 12:56 PM
Nov 2014
 

Cal33

(7,018 posts)
9. For someone who has repeatedly said she wasn't running in 2016, 8% seems to be a rather high number.
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 01:01 PM
Nov 2014

brooklynite

(93,834 posts)
11. Why? Think about how many people HERE ignore what she says...
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 01:03 PM
Nov 2014

Also, for those who haven't bothered to do research, the poll allowed you to pick multiple candidates.

brooklynite

(93,834 posts)
10. Who would you expect to be the choice of progressive political activists?
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 01:02 PM
Nov 2014

It also shows that a significant share of political advocates like Hillary Clinton (almost as many as Sanders).

Since one of these women is likely running, and one of these women is clearly not, what does that tell you?

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
13. Among the general population Hillary is poling very well in front of others.
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 01:13 PM
Nov 2014

Apparently in the progressive poll Warren outpolls the others but not as well as Hillary does in the general population, just saying.

 

Cal33

(7,018 posts)
19. I really wonder what's going to happen in two years. I feel it's going to be a hell of a ride
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 02:57 PM
Nov 2014

till then - up and down, up and down, and sideways!

 

QuestionAlways

(259 posts)
24. Or perhaps it is
Tue Nov 25, 2014, 02:51 AM
Nov 2014

Since we know a lot o money will be needed to win in the general election. At least she would appoint moderate justices to the SC who will protect civil rights and perhaps overturn Citizen United, otherwise we may end up with more wing-nuts on the court.

brooklynite

(93,834 posts)
20. Let's punch up that headline, shall we?
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 03:24 PM
Nov 2014

BREAKING: Clinton tied with Sanders among progressives!!!!!

Please continue.

Arthur_Frain

(1,783 posts)
22. Wait. Just......wait.
Tue Nov 25, 2014, 12:09 AM
Nov 2014

It's November 24th of 2014. Frankly, after this latest debacle in the election cycle, I'm not even THINKING about who I'm going to vote for in 2016, let alone next year. But vote I will, fool that I am. I just hope somebody ELSE steps forward who is qualified. I will WAIT to watch the debates. Yes, I know they are largely a charade (except for crash and burn moments like Perry's "oops", when you get to see political aspirations for power go up in flames) but for me, that is still the best moment to assess who might have some good independent ideas, and who is obviously a corporate shill.

In 2008, there were two candidates I connected with through the debates. Barack Obama was one, and the other (surprisingly) came from the other side of the aisle. Before you flame me with your derision, know that I've never bought the party line, hook, line and sinker.

What's that old adage? "If you're not a democrat/liberal before you're 40 your don't have a heart, and if you're not a republican/conservative after you're 40, you don't have a brain"? There are so many complexities to why this has some truth to it I honestly don't know where to begin. But the increasing corporatization of our political process leaves me less interested in supporting party goose steppers, and more interested in supporting candidates who display the remains of integrity.

 

Cal33

(7,018 posts)
27. Yes, we still have two more years to go. By that time, who knows what the political scene might
Wed Nov 26, 2014, 09:11 AM
Nov 2014

be like? We'll all have to wait - whether we like it or not. That's a fact.

And a Hearty Welcome to DU.

LiberalElite

(14,691 posts)
25. Her "inevitability" and
Tue Nov 25, 2014, 08:06 AM
Nov 2014

sense of entitlement (to my vote) turned me off last time. I haven't changed my mind.

 

Cal33

(7,018 posts)
26. The title of this article is "Liberal Poll 2016." That would exclude the 3rd Way Democrats,
Tue Nov 25, 2014, 02:31 PM
Nov 2014

I presume. Not all DUers are Liberals.

Exultant Democracy

(6,594 posts)
30. Have you ever watched a Presedential Election before? No one is running until they are
Tue Dec 2, 2014, 03:26 PM
Dec 2014

Most candidates spend months and months doing the Primary circuit before they stop denying a run and announce.

Have you never noticed that before? It makes your comment seem extremely ignorant about the nature of modern electoral politics.

Response to Cal33 (Original post)

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
31. Polls of a small subset of those who will be voting in the primaries doesn't tell you much.
Tue Dec 2, 2014, 06:07 PM
Dec 2014

Polls of the entire Democratic electorate at the same time had Hillary beating everyone else including Warren by 50 points including among self described Liberals and Progressives.

 

Cal33

(7,018 posts)
32. Yes, but we still have nearly 2 years to go. Who can foresee what the political situation will be
Tue Dec 2, 2014, 07:34 PM
Dec 2014

like by that time? Things do change, you know -- especially in politics.

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