2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumThis article of 11/20/14, shows Warren ahead of Clinton by 42% to 23%. Sanders is second with 24%.
In another year, I think it's possible that there might be a groundswell of Democrats asking Warren to run. She is becoming
ever more popular.
<< Massachusetts Sen. Elizabeth Warren -- not Hillary Clinton -- is the top progressive choice for president in 2016, according to a new poll. In fact, Clinton doesn't even make second place. Forty two percent of respondents favor Warren, and Vermont Independent Senator Bernie Sanders also edges out Clinton with 24% compared to her 23%, according to results from the 2016 Presidential Pulse Poll commissioned by progressive grassroots organization Democracy for America.
These results come amid a groundswell of activism from the Democratic party's more liberal wing, which has called for a contested 2016 primary and has often questioned Clinton's financial ties to Wall Street.
"Elizabeth Warren won by a large margin because she inspires Democrats by valiantly fighting for populist progressive policies to address income inequality in the face of Wall Street resistance -- and because she regularly engages with the grassroots base of her party," said Charles Chamberlain, the group's executive director, in a release of the poll.
He noted, however, that the poll's biggest finding is not that support for Warren among liberal voters is widespread, but that progressives want to make sure that the Democratic nomination process is a "contest, not a coronation." >>
http://www.cnn.com/2014/11/20/politics/elizabeth-warren-leads-poll/index.html
NYC_SKP
(68,644 posts)Faux pas
(14,580 posts)Autumn
(44,743 posts)Cosmic Kitten
(3,498 posts)Cal33
(7,018 posts)frazzled
(18,402 posts)We've already been through this in other threads. While interesting (like the conservative CPAC straw poll that recently chose crazy neurosurgeon Ben Carson or the Value Voters poll that chose Ted Cruz), these are just polls of interest groups that have a cohesive ideological bent. They are not public polls. End of story on my end. Of course, it won't stop people from putting on their rose-colored glasses and predicting the next president of the United States. Kind of reminds me of the Internet love-fest surrounding John Edwards, who was the progressive savior (where the hell that ever came from I don't know: he was one of the most conservative Democrats in the Senate during his brief tenure there) and was going to wipe all the other candidates off the map.
Cal33
(7,018 posts)brooklynite
(93,834 posts)Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)Hillary 73%
Biden 12%
Warren 8%
http://www.msnbc.com/morning-joe/hillary-leads-dems-polls-2016
Cal33
(7,018 posts)brooklynite
(93,834 posts)Also, for those who haven't bothered to do research, the poll allowed you to pick multiple candidates.
brooklynite
(93,834 posts)It also shows that a significant share of political advocates like Hillary Clinton (almost as many as Sanders).
Since one of these women is likely running, and one of these women is clearly not, what does that tell you?
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)Apparently in the progressive poll Warren outpolls the others but not as well as Hillary does in the general population, just saying.
samsingh
(17,571 posts)Scuba
(53,475 posts)jalan48
(13,797 posts)Ellipsis
(9,123 posts)Dopers_Greed
(2,640 posts)EOM
Cal33
(7,018 posts)till then - up and down, up and down, and sideways!
QuestionAlways
(259 posts)Since we know a lot o money will be needed to win in the general election. At least she would appoint moderate justices to the SC who will protect civil rights and perhaps overturn Citizen United, otherwise we may end up with more wing-nuts on the court.
brooklynite
(93,834 posts)BREAKING: Clinton tied with Sanders among progressives!!!!!
Please continue.
onenote
(42,373 posts)Next.
Arthur_Frain
(1,783 posts)It's November 24th of 2014. Frankly, after this latest debacle in the election cycle, I'm not even THINKING about who I'm going to vote for in 2016, let alone next year. But vote I will, fool that I am. I just hope somebody ELSE steps forward who is qualified. I will WAIT to watch the debates. Yes, I know they are largely a charade (except for crash and burn moments like Perry's "oops", when you get to see political aspirations for power go up in flames) but for me, that is still the best moment to assess who might have some good independent ideas, and who is obviously a corporate shill.
In 2008, there were two candidates I connected with through the debates. Barack Obama was one, and the other (surprisingly) came from the other side of the aisle. Before you flame me with your derision, know that I've never bought the party line, hook, line and sinker.
What's that old adage? "If you're not a democrat/liberal before you're 40 your don't have a heart, and if you're not a republican/conservative after you're 40, you don't have a brain"? There are so many complexities to why this has some truth to it I honestly don't know where to begin. But the increasing corporatization of our political process leaves me less interested in supporting party goose steppers, and more interested in supporting candidates who display the remains of integrity.
Cal33
(7,018 posts)be like? We'll all have to wait - whether we like it or not. That's a fact.
And a Hearty Welcome to DU.
Lil Missy
(17,865 posts)In the real world, Hillary beats everyone.
LiberalElite
(14,691 posts)sense of entitlement (to my vote) turned me off last time. I haven't changed my mind.
Cal33
(7,018 posts)I presume. Not all DUers are Liberals.
RBInMaine
(13,570 posts)Exultant Democracy
(6,594 posts)Most candidates spend months and months doing the Primary circuit before they stop denying a run and announce.
Have you never noticed that before? It makes your comment seem extremely ignorant about the nature of modern electoral politics.
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stevenleser
(32,886 posts)Polls of the entire Democratic electorate at the same time had Hillary beating everyone else including Warren by 50 points including among self described Liberals and Progressives.
Cal33
(7,018 posts)like by that time? Things do change, you know -- especially in politics.