HomeLatest ThreadsGreatest ThreadsForums & GroupsMy SubscriptionsMy Posts
DU Home » Latest Threads » Forums & Groups » Main » Politics 2014 (Forum) » When a right winger posts...
Introducing Discussionist: A new forum by the creators of DU

Thu May 17, 2012, 02:57 PM

When a right winger posts some talking points on a social media sight, or in a group setting,

don't try to defend against them.

1. First insult them. "How can you be so stupid as to believe that shit?"

2. Then put them on the defensive. "How many jobs bills has the tea party congress proposed?"

3. Then post a left wing talking point, "We have more active oil wells in this country today than at any time in our history."

12 replies, 1875 views

Reply to this thread

Back to top Alert abuse

Always highlight: 10 newest replies | Replies posted after I mark a forum
Replies to this discussion thread
Arrow 12 replies Author Time Post
Reply When a right winger posts some talking points on a social media sight, or in a group setting, (Original post)
upaloopa May 2012 OP
Sarah Ibarruri May 2012 #1
louis-t May 2012 #2
mac56 May 2012 #3
Crow73 May 2012 #4
wandy May 2012 #5
Amster Dan May 2012 #12
Dawson Leery May 2012 #6
blm May 2012 #7
MissMarple May 2012 #8
bongbong May 2012 #9
castnet55 May 2012 #10
Iceberg Louie May 2012 #11

Response to upaloopa (Original post)

Thu May 17, 2012, 02:58 PM

1. Excellent point. There's no purpose in attempting to make sense out of right wing bs

Right wing bs is simply that, right wing bs, and should be treated as such.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to upaloopa (Original post)

Thu May 17, 2012, 02:59 PM

2. I usually just unsubscribe.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to upaloopa (Original post)

Thu May 17, 2012, 03:11 PM

3. +1. I'm done with this "suffer-fools-gladly" BS.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to upaloopa (Original post)

Thu May 17, 2012, 03:13 PM

4. Yahoo Answers

 

They are stupid and gullible.

on the white houses web site.]

Some are funny stupid others are just ugly.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to upaloopa (Original post)

Thu May 17, 2012, 03:19 PM

5. Trying to reason with a teabager is like trying to talk sense to a rock...

Don't waist you're time.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to wandy (Reply #5)

Fri May 18, 2012, 12:27 AM

12. Don't insult rocks like that!!!

 

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to upaloopa (Original post)

Thu May 17, 2012, 03:21 PM

6. That appears to be the only way to deal with them.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to upaloopa (Original post)

Thu May 17, 2012, 04:28 PM

7. Ridicule the media sources they trust. A Korean cult leader and an Australian extortionist have been

feeding them the bulk of their information over the last 30years. Two global fascists turning a whole group of voters into anti-American radicals who hate their nation's government. That makes them not only moonies but traitors.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to upaloopa (Original post)

Thu May 17, 2012, 05:32 PM

8. Reason will never get past their emotional ties to what they believe.

Our reasons are not home truths to them. Lakof and Haidt are right, we have to learn how to talk to the elephants. GOP politicians and strategists do it quite well. Us, not so much.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to upaloopa (Original post)

Thu May 17, 2012, 07:45 PM

9. Remind them

 

That the 2nd biggest shareholder in Fox "news" is a Saudi sheik, and that Fox "news" won a court case affirming their right to broadcast known lies and call them "news".

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to upaloopa (Original post)

Thu May 17, 2012, 11:38 PM

10. Right wingers

 

and what about it when they cite liberal sites for the references for the news or arguements? Facts are facts and we should talk openly with them and instead of insulting people (automatic turn off for most) show them more facts to refute what they are saying.
If you are confident and correct in what we say then we don't need to go down to their level.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to upaloopa (Original post)

Fri May 18, 2012, 12:15 AM

11. Right wingers don't give a plug nickel about facts

or whether or not they hold muster. Their formula for molding public opinion, forged by the gutter-level tactics of Gingrich, Atwater, and Rove, is simple: 1.) conjure up an inflammatory self-serving talking point, no matter how absurd (i.e. "Obama is a Muslim socialist who wants to take away your guns"), 2.) repeat, repeat, repeat, 3.) repeat, repeat, repeat, 4.) continue to repeat until the ridiculous assertion takes root among enough useful idiots, 5.) when a rational person tries to counter the claim with facts, call them anti-American and repeat some more. No matter how much hard data and factual backing the rational person has, the useful idiots are now parroting the ridiculous claim, spreading the message like a chain letter.

I believe Stephen Colbert referred to this as "truthiness".

Logically, the only hope to counter these propaganda talking points would be to repeat the factual points ad nauseum in the media. However, two problems lie here; first, factual, logical reality does not own a media empire ready to tow it's party lines like trained seals; second, unlike right-wing propagandists who have made an art form of whittling down their message into black-and-white five-words-or-less jingoism, factuality tends to run more long-winded, given that most aspects of politics and sociology are nuanced and multi-faceted. In other words, you've already lost them at "If you look at the actual numbers here..."

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink

Reply to this thread