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Tue May 8, 2012, 08:29 PM

Yahoo News' latest anti-Obama hit piece

http://news.yahoo.com/four-reasons-obama%E2%80%99s-2012-re-election-campaign-had-a-bad-week.html

stomach if you can. the media is doing its best to make this a horse race. I think the fix is in.

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Suji to Seoul May 2012 OP
Proud Liberal Dem May 2012 #1
MarianJack May 2012 #2
rug May 2012 #4
Drunken Irishman May 2012 #5
rug May 2012 #6
Drunken Irishman May 2012 #7
rug May 2012 #8
Drunken Irishman May 2012 #9
rug May 2012 #12
Drunken Irishman May 2012 #15
rug May 2012 #16
Drunken Irishman May 2012 #17
MarianJack May 2012 #11
MarianJack May 2012 #10
Thrill May 2012 #3
adigal May 2012 #13
uppityperson May 2012 #14
adigal May 2012 #19
uppityperson May 2012 #21
adigal May 2012 #22
uppityperson May 2012 #23
adigal May 2012 #24
uppityperson May 2012 #28
adigal May 2012 #25
uppityperson May 2012 #27
K8-EEE May 2012 #18
MatthewStLouis May 2012 #20
adigal May 2012 #26
grantcart May 2012 #29

Response to Suji to Seoul (Original post)

Tue May 8, 2012, 08:31 PM

1. Yahoo! News is out of touch

President Obama's job approval is up to +/-50%, (actually) up 7 on Romney nationally, and looking VERY good in the EC so far. WTF reality do THEY live in? I'd be curious to know what they think went wrong for President Obama or how badly he's been wounded by whatever but I am not sure I can stomach reading it. Thanks for the link anyway.

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Response to Suji to Seoul (Original post)

Tue May 8, 2012, 09:28 PM

2. Greenfeld is usually pretty reliable in spreading rightist bs.

However, we do have to bust our asses to get President Obama re-elected along with increased Democratic numbers in congress.

Coasting is never a good idea. Just ask president dewey.

PEACE!

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Response to MarianJack (Reply #2)

Tue May 8, 2012, 10:39 PM

4. He was a speechwriter for Robert F. Kennedy.

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Response to rug (Reply #4)

Tue May 8, 2012, 10:53 PM

5. Yeah and Patrick Caddell was Carter's pollster. What's your point?

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Response to Drunken Irishman (Reply #5)

Tue May 8, 2012, 10:57 PM

6. A pollster didn't write speeches for RFK.

You think he was spreading rightist bs?

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Response to rug (Reply #6)

Tue May 8, 2012, 11:07 PM

7. No, but he worked for Carter and considered himself a Democrat...

It doesn't mean squat now, does it? RFK has been dead how many years now? Why should his writing speeches for RFK mean anything in the 21st Century? Are you suggesting that he can't adjust his views and start pushing the same bullshit right-wing narratives we're used to from the media?

I'll give you another example: Chris Matthews. He was a speechwriter (happy?) for Carter and while he's been fairly decent the last six or so years, for a period, specifically during the 2000 election and the point around the Iraq War, he was quick to peddle right-wing BS with no trouble.

It happens. Just because someone worked with RFK or claimed to be a Democrat a generation ago doesn't mean squat today.

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Response to Drunken Irishman (Reply #7)

Tue May 8, 2012, 11:10 PM

8. That would be pertinent if we were discussing him and not Greenfield.

And history is pertinent.

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Response to rug (Reply #8)

Tue May 8, 2012, 11:20 PM

9. You're absolutely right...

The evidence against Greenfield is in the article. Everything he mentioned, from Obama over-celebrating on bin Laden, to the empty seats in Columbia, is the exact same shit the right-wing media has been pushing. So, I think it's pretty clear that Greenfield is happy to subscribe to the same attacks of many in the right-wing media.

This article pretty much shows him the tool that he is. I don't care if he wiped RFK's ass in the 60s, this type of shit is pathetic and creates a false narrative by doing EXACTLY what the Republicans want to do - take Obama's positives and make them a negative.

Obama got bin Laden and had the audacity to use it in a political ad? Well obviously he's spiking the ball and let's be honest, any president, even a drooling moron, would have made that call. So, he really should stop taking credit for it!

Obama holds a rally in front of 14,000 people - far outpacing anything Romney has ever seen? Well, I saw some seats in the upper bowl, so that probably means he's not nearly as popular as he was four years ago. No one is buying Obama's hopey, changey thing this go-around!

And what's this all add up to?!? TROUBLE FOR OBAMA! OF COURSE! Only in America can killing our nation's biggest and nastiest and evilest enemy be a PROBLEM for the black guy! Only in America can a rally of 14,000 people turn out to be a negative story because it wasn't 16,000! And why? Because of people like Jeff Greenfield who push bullshit, right-wing narratives. His writing speeches for RFK doesn't change that. He's a tool. This whole article proves it.

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Response to Drunken Irishman (Reply #9)

Tue May 8, 2012, 11:40 PM

12. Not liking what he writes doesn't make him a tool.

Your last paragraph is plain borderline.

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Response to rug (Reply #12)

Wed May 9, 2012, 12:46 AM

15. If he uses Republican talking points, that's exactly what it makes him...

This has nothing to do with agreeing or disagreeing with what he said. He's pushing Republican talking points and anyone who does that, in my view, is a tool. He's a tool.

Your whole argument is remarkably thin. But that's okay. I'm used to that here.

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Response to Drunken Irishman (Reply #15)

Wed May 9, 2012, 12:50 AM

16. Not all criticism is a talking point.

Does it seem that way to you?

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Response to rug (Reply #16)

Wed May 9, 2012, 12:54 AM

17. Agreed...

Which makes it that much more pathetic. He could criticize Obama legitimately and instead goes after trivial, ridiculous matters that Republicans push.

Do you think claiming Obama is in trouble because he 'only' got 14,000 fans at a rally is a legitimate criticism? I don't and the only people pushing it are right-wingers who want to turn Obama's strength and make it a weakness. Because he didn't pack an arena, and 'only' had 14,000 fans show up instead of 16,000, it's a sign his campaign is in trouble. If you think that is a legitimate criticism of Obama, or his campaign, well I don't really feel you're worthy to carry on with.

So, maybe Greenfield should stop being a tool and actually go out there and criticize with legitimacy - instead of focusing on Republican talking points.

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Response to Drunken Irishman (Reply #5)

Tue May 8, 2012, 11:25 PM

11. Hi Drunken Irishman.

I seem to remember caddell being George McGovern's pollster in 1972, also.

Regardless, he's an ass now.

PEACE!

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Response to rug (Reply #4)

Tue May 8, 2012, 11:22 PM

10. Operative word here is WAS.

In many of the political articles he writes, he takes the right wing talking point of the moment and RUNS with it.

This statement is based on seing A LOT of his commentary/reporting.

BTW, Bobby Kennedy was the first candidate I ever volunteered for. He was assasinated 2 weeks before my 12th birthday.

PEACE!

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Response to Suji to Seoul (Original post)

Tue May 8, 2012, 10:37 PM

3. Go to the front page of Yahoo now

I'm willing to bet there is a negative Obama story.

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Response to Suji to Seoul (Original post)

Wed May 9, 2012, 12:11 AM

13. The comments are even worse

I just wrote about this on the GD thread, and it was deleted because I said the racists weren't even smart enough to know that they were signed in with Facebook with their names and jobs, etc. I told one woman that I would send her comments to her job, and a DU jury banned MY thread, saying it was race baiting. So even here, racism is OK. I am disgusted.

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Response to adigal (Reply #13)

Wed May 9, 2012, 12:33 AM

14. Here are the jury results, and the TOS that say don't do what you were saying to do...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002662327
Author: adigal
Subject = Blatant Racist comments about Obama linked to Yahoo story with posters' real names

Alerter comments: going after a person's livelihood? we're better than that. TOS...privacy concerns

Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: No explanation given
Juror #2 voted to HIDE IT and said: This suggested course of action smacks of stalking, and it is also a clearl attempt to interfere with several people's ability to earn a living. No matter how much we disapprove of someone, we should not treat other human beings like that.
Juror #3 voted to HIDE IT and said: No explanation given
Juror #4 voted to HIDE IT and said: Race baiting - not good.
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: The person alerting could have simply given the reason for the alert as an answer.
Juror #6 voted to HIDE IT and said: The poster makes a blatant threat to people due to their postings on Facebook. That is unacceptable.
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Do not post or link to any private/personal information about any person, even if it is publicly available elsewhere on the Internet.

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Response to uppityperson (Reply #14)

Wed May 9, 2012, 07:00 AM

19. Yes, I saw that and I disagree

Anyone who posts the things they did, on a public forum, have NO expectation of privacy. This is why Democrats get their teeth kicked down our throats all of the time. We always want to be so nice. And I did NOT post to their facebook pages, DUH. I posted to the yahoo story, without giving their names. It would be nice if people on the Jury would READ my post before banning it. I feel really ashamed of the stupidity here.

And saying people are racist is NOT race baiting. I have never seen such stupidity on this site before.

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Response to adigal (Reply #19)

Wed May 9, 2012, 07:31 PM

21. They have no expectation of privacy but you still can't do this on DU since it's against the rules.

If you disagree with the rules, take it up with Admin. There's a contact link at the bottom of every DU page. You've "never seen such stupidity on this site before"? I have.

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Response to uppityperson (Reply #21)

Thu May 10, 2012, 07:47 AM

22. I guess I expect better from progressive/Dems n/t

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Response to adigal (Reply #22)

Thu May 10, 2012, 11:55 AM

23. I guess they expect them to follow the rules of a private forum. Take it up with Admin.

This sounds like the old "how dare you ban people for being bigots" argument. Or the old "banning someone for not following the rules is not very open minded". Or the old "how DARE you call yourself open minded when you have rules" argument.

I guess the owners of the site expect participants to follow their clearly stated rules.

You don't like the few rules there are, you don't have to participate. There are lots of other forums where moderation is kept to nonexistant minimum.

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Response to uppityperson (Reply #23)

Thu May 10, 2012, 02:16 PM

24. Ever since we disagreed on late term abortion, you are in my business

Why don't you go bug someone else and stop stalking me, or I will report you to admins.

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Response to adigal (Reply #24)

Thu May 10, 2012, 05:04 PM

28. Good grief.

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Response to uppityperson (Reply #23)

Thu May 10, 2012, 02:18 PM

25. I just alerted admins that you are stalking me

YOu need to stop. NOW.

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Response to adigal (Reply #25)

Thu May 10, 2012, 05:03 PM

27. My replying to your replying to me replying to you replying to me is...stalking?

No. It is called having a discussion or a conversation. Or do you mean that you are stalking me, since you keep replying to me? If you don't want me to reply to a comment you give me, then quit replying to my comments.

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Response to Suji to Seoul (Original post)

Wed May 9, 2012, 01:05 AM

18. Yeah I saw this and thought the same thing

All the wingnut sites have settled on this "bad week" thing when Romney has really had a LOT of embarrassing moments this wee, immediately forgotten.

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Response to Suji to Seoul (Original post)

Wed May 9, 2012, 12:11 PM

20. What is the deal with them? They always have at least one anti-Obama story.

And as for the comments on Yahoo stories...well, I almost never read them anymore, because there is never any reasonable debate there. It's always a childish shouting match with Viagra ads mixed in. They just get my blood pressure up.

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Response to MatthewStLouis (Reply #20)

Thu May 10, 2012, 02:18 PM

26. That is true, and good advice, also

I haven't been back there since.

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Response to Suji to Seoul (Original post)

Thu May 10, 2012, 05:47 PM

29. Jeff Greenberg lol

One of the bad things that happened was a SNL skit that never aired and no one knows about.

Wow.

Talking about a stretch.

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