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n2doc

(47,953 posts)
Sun Feb 23, 2014, 06:31 PM Feb 2014

Obama is right: Democrats’ ‘meh’ attitude toward midterms is a major problem

By Chris Cillizza, Sunday, February 23, 10:40 AM E-mail the writers
President Obama’s speech at a Democratic Governors Association fundraiser in D.C. Thursday night contained a key pearl of political wisdom for his party:

“We know how to win national elections, but all too often, it’s during these midterms where we end up getting ourselves into trouble, because I guess we don’t think it’s sexy enough,” Obama said. “But the fact of the matter is, is that that’s where so much of the action is.”

Obama is exactly right. His party — from the donor community to the activists — gets very excited about presidential elections but tends to lose interest (at least when compared to Republicans) in midterm elections. Put another way: Democrats love the Super Bowl; they are less attracted to the mid-season game between two teams they probably haven’t heard of. (Browns-Vikings .?.?. it’s fantastic!)

Young people — a key pillar of the Obama coalition — tend to stray from politics during midterms. Attempts by Democratic operatives in past midterm elections to build outside organizations to battle conservative groups on the airwaves fizzled for lack of interest. And so on and so forth.

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Obama is right: Democrats’ ‘meh’ attitude toward midterms is a major problem (Original Post) n2doc Feb 2014 OP
Damn right, elleng Feb 2014 #1
Obama and the Party Jamaal510 Feb 2014 #2
Unfortunately, getting truly informed becomes more and more difficult every day, elleng Feb 2014 #5
Are we doing all we can to change that? Are we promoting the kind of policies that motivate .... Scuba Feb 2014 #14
Every Democrat who sits out 2014 needs a SERIOUS kick in the ass! lastlib Feb 2014 #3
That is why we should put Legalize MJ on every state ballot as possible in Nov. The RW has no Vincardog Feb 2014 #4
This message was self-deleted by its author blkmusclmachine Feb 2014 #6
Yeah, BHO, blame the base! That's SO MOTIVATING!!! blkmusclmachine Feb 2014 #7
Then stay home. JoePhilly Feb 2014 #15
He's Right otohara Feb 2014 #23
If it's any consolation, I don't think he was actually talking to you. Tarheel_Dem Feb 2014 #26
i know, he was talking to democrats... dionysus Mar 2014 #37
Ding! Ding! Ding! Tarheel_Dem Mar 2014 #40
In 2010, Democrats turned out but we lost independents 55-39. THAT is why we lost 2010. neverforget Feb 2014 #8
Thank you! for saying that. truebluegreen Feb 2014 #10
But it's so covenient, if you don't want to admit that playing to the middle isn't working well. winter is coming Feb 2014 #19
not even Al Gore's say-so can get them off 2000!Snowden (Nader) MisterP Mar 2014 #32
We Never Had The Unaffiliated. otohara Feb 2014 #24
Then a political philosophy based on attracting them isn't a winning strategy. TheKentuckian Feb 2014 #25
He's preparing another "it's liberals' fault" excuse for November. He wants the TPP and KXL Doctor_J Mar 2014 #36
your bitter tears are nectar to my soul. nt dionysus Mar 2014 #38
What is the Pres doing to help Democrats campaign? Supporting the TPP? Fracking? The XL-Pipeline? rhett o rick Feb 2014 #9
Yes, hoping against hope that we will find candidates truebluegreen Feb 2014 #11
It's not to bad getting progressive candidates at the lower levels but they rhett o rick Feb 2014 #12
True enough. truebluegreen Feb 2014 #13
i agree with President Obama,somewhat,but INdemo Feb 2014 #16
As President YOU are the Party Leader so if you want voter turn out give people a reason to want to wocaonimabi Feb 2014 #17
True. The Prez has quite a bit to do with that "meh attitude." polichick Feb 2014 #18
It takes a war to get us off our asses. Redfairen Feb 2014 #20
I tend to agree davidpdx Feb 2014 #21
So we are likely to get an overwhelmingly Teabrained government for the next 2 years. Kablooie Feb 2014 #22
Voting out Rick Scott HockeyMom Feb 2014 #27
The Cure For This, Sir, Is Nationalizing Congressional Elections The Magistrate Feb 2014 #28
Sorry to see this oldandhappy Feb 2014 #29
Democratic politicians' "meh" attitude toward traditional Democratic principles Maedhros Feb 2014 #30
We are not even running real challengers in our primaries Redford Mar 2014 #31
Maybe he should stop reaching out to the Repukes and start reaching out to his voters Doctor_J Mar 2014 #33
Ever since Howard Dean left hollowdweller Mar 2014 #34
Howard Dean recruited a number of "blue dogs" who were deemed "unclean".... Tarheel_Dem Mar 2014 #41
I am more concerned with Obama's poll numbers dragging down everyone else thepalladin69 Mar 2014 #35
very concerning. dionysus Mar 2014 #39
Sometimes, it's good to be concerned. MineralMan Mar 2014 #42
I'm so worried muriel_volestrangler Mar 2014 #43

elleng

(130,860 posts)
1. Damn right,
Sun Feb 23, 2014, 06:33 PM
Feb 2014

and we're all sunk (to put it politely) if this doesn't change. Repug bullies will continue to eat all of our lunches, ad infinitum, if we don't change things.

Jamaal510

(10,893 posts)
2. Obama and the Party
Sun Feb 23, 2014, 06:54 PM
Feb 2014

can do all they can to try to change that and maybe boost enthusiasm, but ultimately it is everyone's responsibility to get informed. People have to be better educated about our government and the importance of participating in congressional/gubernatorial elections. In addition, we must get rid of the image of a President being equal to a king. Their only jobs are basically to sign/veto bills, and appoint SC justices.
As the saying goes, "you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink it."

elleng

(130,860 posts)
5. Unfortunately, getting truly informed becomes more and more difficult every day,
Sun Feb 23, 2014, 08:06 PM
Feb 2014

and in the future, who the heck knows, as repugs thrive on an uninformed populace.

 

Scuba

(53,475 posts)
14. Are we doing all we can to change that? Are we promoting the kind of policies that motivate ....
Mon Feb 24, 2014, 08:05 AM
Feb 2014

... people to get to the polls?

I'm pretty well informed yet can't recall seeing our Party promoting any national platform for 2014. Please tell me I'm wrong, that I just missed it.

lastlib

(23,203 posts)
3. Every Democrat who sits out 2014 needs a SERIOUS kick in the ass!
Sun Feb 23, 2014, 07:13 PM
Feb 2014

Ditto every independent who doesn't vote their own best interest (Democratic) in November. There is far too much at stake to let the GOP hold the reins of power anywhere in this country over the next two years.

Vincardog

(20,234 posts)
4. That is why we should put Legalize MJ on every state ballot as possible in Nov. The RW has no
Sun Feb 23, 2014, 07:25 PM
Feb 2014

problem putting whatever inflames their base on the ballot whenever they please.
Why don't we push ballot measures on making the min wage $15/hr indexed for inflation?
How about one to decriminalize Marijuana?
One to guarantee every resident free education for life?

GOTV

Response to n2doc (Original post)

JoePhilly

(27,787 posts)
15. Then stay home.
Mon Feb 24, 2014, 09:25 AM
Feb 2014

I mean, if you need some one else to motivate you to vote, skip it.

Its not all that important.

 

otohara

(24,135 posts)
23. He's Right
Thu Feb 27, 2014, 11:50 AM
Feb 2014

should he lie to the base?

Mark Udall is in trouble now in CO - no weed on the ballot this time around to rile the base up.

neverforget

(9,436 posts)
8. In 2010, Democrats turned out but we lost independents 55-39. THAT is why we lost 2010.
Sun Feb 23, 2014, 10:52 PM
Feb 2014
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/2010-midterms-political-price-economic-pain/story?id=12041739&page=2


Swing-voting independents who, as usual, made the difference, favored Republicans for House by a thumping 16 points, 55-39 percent. Compare that to Obama's 8-point win among independents in 2008. It was the Republicans' biggest win among independents in exit polls dating to 1982 (by two points. The GOP won independents by 14 points in 1994, the last time they took control of the House.)

winter is coming

(11,785 posts)
19. But it's so covenient, if you don't want to admit that playing to the middle isn't working well.
Mon Feb 24, 2014, 09:28 PM
Feb 2014

Time and time again, the left is pushed aside using the rationale that catering to the center wins elections, but who gets the blame when the center doesn't show up?

 

otohara

(24,135 posts)
24. We Never Had The Unaffiliated.
Thu Feb 27, 2014, 11:54 AM
Feb 2014

they swing back/forth - most uninformed voters out there are so called "independents".

These people who call themselves independent are oh so willing to let the rest of us choose who will run in the primaries. That just screams independent...not.


TheKentuckian

(25,023 posts)
25. Then a political philosophy based on attracting them isn't a winning strategy.
Fri Feb 28, 2014, 01:02 PM
Feb 2014

TeaPubliKlans grasp that mid terms are base elections, they do not spend their energy wringing their hands about how to win the fake middle, they get their people out and do far better than their numbers and the popularity of their policy positions can justify pretty consistently. They also have structural advantages that we don't even try to compensate for or end. Our pols seem to prefer to play on their side of the field.

 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
36. He's preparing another "it's liberals' fault" excuse for November. He wants the TPP and KXL
Sat Mar 1, 2014, 10:29 PM
Mar 2014

and charter schools and race to the bottom and more drilling and Gingrinch Care, and then will point fingers when the party gets trounced.

He is the biggest disaster for the party in my nearly 60 years of life.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
9. What is the Pres doing to help Democrats campaign? Supporting the TPP? Fracking? The XL-Pipeline?
Sun Feb 23, 2014, 11:49 PM
Feb 2014

Social Security cuts? Can they claim that Democrats stand for more American jobs? Probably not with the TPP hanging over their heads.

It's the damn centrists that stay at home in the midterms. The wacky, extreme left are always out fighting.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
12. It's not to bad getting progressive candidates at the lower levels but they
Mon Feb 24, 2014, 12:18 AM
Feb 2014

have a hard time fighting the Corporatist National Democratic machine.

INdemo

(6,994 posts)
16. i agree with President Obama,somewhat,but
Mon Feb 24, 2014, 10:05 AM
Feb 2014

We need to get and keep our younger voters involved and informed. Howard Dean had the formula for doing just that.
But I would be willing to be that a very large percentage of Democratic voters could not name the DNC chairman.
This was not the case when Howard Dean was at the helm.
Our state party leaders (especially in red state) I think just say oh well and don't really recruit a viable candidate.
We have that here in Indiana in the 3rd district which is red but the incumbent Congressman is beatable we just need a capable Democratic candidate and one that has the support of the DCCC.
But this is true in all States that congressional election need the support of the DNC

 

wocaonimabi

(187 posts)
17. As President YOU are the Party Leader so if you want voter turn out give people a reason to want to
Mon Feb 24, 2014, 01:27 PM
Feb 2014

get out and vote.

However as Party Leader if you think approving Keystone, the TTP, Fracking and Chained CPI are ALL good things that you think Democrats can run on you as party leader are going to be very disappointed come the day after the election.

Redfairen

(1,276 posts)
20. It takes a war to get us off our asses.
Mon Feb 24, 2014, 11:43 PM
Feb 2014

Other than 2006, when was the last time the Dems did well in a midterm election? I guess it'll take another debacle like Iraq to get anyone on the left moving again. We love to show up for our presidential candidates, but otherwise? Yawn.

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
21. I tend to agree
Tue Feb 25, 2014, 12:05 AM
Feb 2014

Democrats are going to run as far as they can from the party base instead of embracing it. I don't have much hope that the midterms are going to change the balance of Congress. I love both my senators, but my congressman is a bluedog.

Kablooie

(18,625 posts)
22. So we are likely to get an overwhelmingly Teabrained government for the next 2 years.
Tue Feb 25, 2014, 03:26 AM
Feb 2014

That will help Democrats win in 2016 because everyone will be so disgusted with the Repubs by then but we will be in hell for the next two years before that.

 

HockeyMom

(14,337 posts)
27. Voting out Rick Scott
Fri Feb 28, 2014, 01:28 PM
Feb 2014

with bells on. Count on it. Mickey Mouse will get my vote before I ever vote for the Space Alien.

The Magistrate

(95,244 posts)
28. The Cure For This, Sir, Is Nationalizing Congressional Elections
Fri Feb 28, 2014, 01:37 PM
Feb 2014

This requires a coherent Party program, which all running for office under the Party banner will campaign vigorously on, and which all elected to office on the Party ticket can be relied on to vote for in the next Congress.

So long as various Boll Weevil/Blue Dog/Third Way types refuse to adhere to policies which are supported by the great preponderance of Democratic voters, and which are sound government into the bargain, it will not be possible to do this.

oldandhappy

(6,719 posts)
29. Sorry to see this
Fri Feb 28, 2014, 02:24 PM
Feb 2014

Our local Dem club is getting fired up! We have expanded get out the vote structure and recruited more folk to work. We will try to take out a local rep. Come on! Join us!

 

Maedhros

(10,007 posts)
30. Democratic politicians' "meh" attitude toward traditional Democratic principles
Fri Feb 28, 2014, 02:29 PM
Feb 2014

is responsible for the "meh" attitude amongst Democratic voters.

 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
33. Maybe he should stop reaching out to the Repukes and start reaching out to his voters
Sat Mar 1, 2014, 06:21 PM
Mar 2014

who knows? It might work

 

hollowdweller

(4,229 posts)
34. Ever since Howard Dean left
Sat Mar 1, 2014, 06:28 PM
Mar 2014

Hasn't seemed to me like the Dems have worked as hard at gaining seats and finding good candidates.

50 state strategy has been tossed.

Tarheel_Dem

(31,229 posts)
41. Howard Dean recruited a number of "blue dogs" who were deemed "unclean"....
Sun Mar 2, 2014, 05:11 AM
Mar 2014

by the purists. Of course Howard escaped critique, because although he was a moderate Governor of VT, he ran to the left of his record there.

MineralMan

(146,284 posts)
42. Sometimes, it's good to be concerned.
Sun Mar 2, 2014, 10:24 AM
Mar 2014

This is not one of those times, though. But, then again, your concerns may not be the same as my concerns.

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