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Sat May 5, 2012, 02:19 PM

HOW THE HELL DID PREVIOUS PRESIDENTS TRAVEL . . .

to election rallies, television appearances, etc.? Did they fly coach on American Airlines? What the hell is this Air Force One crap about now? I have never seen or heard any mention or question of any previous president's travel arrangements until now. They bitch about his vacations, his wife's vacations . . . everything! Do they know how tiresome and boring this crap is? I did not even finish reading this article about his election kick-off rally in Ohio because the first lines pissed me off, and I, for one am tired of this crap!

http://nbcpolitics.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/05/05/11555288-its-official-obama-starts-campaign-with-ohio-va-rallies?lite

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Reply HOW THE HELL DID PREVIOUS PRESIDENTS TRAVEL . . . (Original post)
madashelltoo May 2012 OP
tanyev May 2012 #1
zbdent May 2012 #2
Enrique May 2012 #3
Drunken Irishman May 2012 #6
madashelltoo May 2012 #8
Cal33 May 2012 #4
Iggo May 2012 #5
Drunken Irishman May 2012 #7
unblock May 2012 #9
unblock May 2012 #10
Cosmocat May 2012 #12
unblock May 2012 #15
Beacool May 2012 #11
Hippo_Tron May 2012 #13
madashelltoo May 2012 #14
Beacool May 2012 #16
Arkana May 2012 #18
Arkana May 2012 #17

Response to madashelltoo (Original post)

Sat May 5, 2012, 02:25 PM

1. Ronald Reagan just thought about where he needed to be and instantly materialized there.

What, you didn't know that?

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Response to madashelltoo (Original post)

Sat May 5, 2012, 02:29 PM

2. don't you know? The "liberally-biased media" doesn't think it's horrendous

unless it's a Democrat doing it ...

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Response to madashelltoo (Original post)

Sat May 5, 2012, 02:35 PM

3. It's not a new issue

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=103&topic_id=232191&mesg_id=232194

By JENNIFER LOVEN, Associated Press Writer Wed Aug 30, 2:44 PM ET

WASHINGTON - Bankrolled almost entirely by taxpayers,
President Bush is roaming far and wide on Air Force One to help Republicans retain control of Congress and capture statehouse contests in high-stakes midterm elections.

In 15 months, including back-to-back fundraisers Wednesday in Little Rock, Ark., and Nashville, Tenn., Bush has collected $166 million for the campaign accounts of 27 Republican candidates, the national GOP and its state counterparts across the country, according to the
Republican National Committee

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Response to Enrique (Reply #3)

Sat May 5, 2012, 02:56 PM

6. It's a stupid issue, really...

What do we expect our President to travel on - whether Republican or Democrat? Private jets that are lacking serious security? Commercial air? Bus? Or just not campaign at all?

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Response to Enrique (Reply #3)

Sat May 5, 2012, 03:10 PM

8. OMG!!! Could you imagine

the ruckus they would make if President Obama flew Air Force One someplace to cheer for one of his team members?! They would be foaming at the mouth, writhing on the ground, and making sounds no human has ever made before. It might not be a new issue, but it has never been said as often as it is now.

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Response to madashelltoo (Original post)

Sat May 5, 2012, 02:39 PM

4. These Greedy Obfuscating Parasites have nothing truthfully negative to say about Obama, so they

invent stories and lies -- some of which are very obnoxious, such as the one about his being foreign-born
and therefore not eligible to be president. They just want to make as big a row and as much noise as they
possibly can, hoping that people will believe them. And it is really surprising how many of the ignorant ones
do believe these deliberately invented lies.

This is behavior typical of sick people, the sociopaths and psychopaths.

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Response to madashelltoo (Original post)

Sat May 5, 2012, 02:54 PM

5. Doesn't any plane the president's on automatically become Air Force One?

Or was that just from some movie?

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Response to Iggo (Reply #5)

Sat May 5, 2012, 02:57 PM

7. Yes. Technically, any aircraft carrying the President is designated Air Force One...

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Response to Iggo (Reply #5)

Sat May 5, 2012, 03:24 PM

9. i think the movie you're thinking of was called, um, "air force one"....

but yes, any plan carrying the president is "air force one".

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Response to madashelltoo (Original post)

Sat May 5, 2012, 03:27 PM

10. actually, the opposition party always trots this issue out.

someone always whines about it, it's a simply tactic to try to pressure or embarass the incumbent, or to change the regulations accordingly, to cough up more campaign money to reimburse the government for campaign-related expenses.

both sides do this, and the press always covers it on a slow news day.

a petty issue and a real yawning unless you're a rather technical bureaucrat.

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Response to unblock (Reply #10)

Sun May 6, 2012, 02:06 PM

12. I would like ad one caveat

the former, half wit clown president quite literally dropped pretty much every ball that went to air during his presidency, out of the sheer boredom of actually having to do the job.

From allowing 9-11 to happen on his watch, to allowing the budget to go bizarrely into debt, to allowing the economy to get run into the ditch, to Katrina ...

President Obama takes actually doing the job, and the heavy thinking required with it, seriously.

It IS the business of politics the way it is set up here now, that the president does all this campaigning.

IF he actually is doing the job, RIGHT, then so be it.

What chaffed me about Bush was he didn't really want to do THE JOB, while he was jetting all over the place doing the campaigning.

It was a 100 percent POLITICAL operation vs BO, who managed to actually run the country while doing the campaigning.

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Response to Cosmocat (Reply #12)

Sun May 6, 2012, 07:25 PM

15. can't argue with a word of that

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Response to madashelltoo (Original post)

Sun May 6, 2012, 01:41 PM

11. The Right's argument is that Obama has campaigned more and held more fundraisers

than every president since Carter up to Bush Jr. combined at this point in time in their reelection bids.

I'm not saying that I agree with them, I'm just stating their position.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2136851/Obama-held-fundraisers-previous-Presidents-combined-visits-key-swing-states-permanent-campaign.html#ixzz1tRE4GrUp

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Response to Beacool (Reply #11)

Sun May 6, 2012, 02:45 PM

13. Whether or not it's true, the issue will continue to escalate

The nation would absolutely be better served if the President spent more of his time focusing on the issues and less time focusing on fundraising. But if the Republicans want a culprit, they need only look in the mirror. They are the ones who are most adamantly against campaign finance reform and they're the ones appointing justices who believe that money is speech.

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Response to Hippo_Tron (Reply #13)

Sun May 6, 2012, 03:37 PM

14. Obama does more for this country in his sleep

than Georgie Boy did wide awake. The fact that they take everything President Obama does as a campaign speech is not his fault. Again, it's the way one interprets one he does. And, I feel he is criticized more harshly than any of the others. Yes, even more than President Carter, whom I thought did a fine job as president also.

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Response to Hippo_Tron (Reply #13)

Sun May 6, 2012, 08:39 PM

16. I think that it's a disgrace how much money is spent to get anyone elected.

A lot of people who would like to serve are held back due to lack of resources. It's very hard to be continually trying to raise money to one-up an opponent. We end up not necessarily with the best candidates, but the ones who can raise the most money. That goes for either party.

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Response to Hippo_Tron (Reply #13)

Mon May 7, 2012, 08:51 AM

18. If his opponents weren't going to have more money than God, he wouldn't have to.

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Response to madashelltoo (Original post)

Mon May 7, 2012, 08:51 AM

17. They flew on AF1.

Don't listen to the fucking media--they make a big deal out of every time the President takes a dump.

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