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Thu Oct 10, 2013, 01:30 PM

The House GOP's Little Rule Change That Guaranteed A Shutdown

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/dc/the-house-gop-s-little-rule-change-that-guaranteed-a-shutdown

"What people don't know is that they rigged the rules of the House to keep the government shut down," Rep. Chris Van Hollen (D-MD), ranking member of the House Budget Committee, told TPM in an interview. "This is a blatant effort to make sure that the Senate bill did not come up for a vote."...

Under normal House rules, according to House Democrats, once that bill had been rejected again by the Senate, then any member of the House could have made a motion to vote on the Senate's bill. Such a motion would have been what is called "privileged" and entitled to a vote of the full House. At that point, Democrats say, they could have joined with moderate Republicans in approving the motion and then in passing the clean Senate bill, averting a shutdown....

But the House Rules Committee voted the night of Sept. 30 to change that rule for this specific bill. They added language dictating that any motion "may be offered only by the majority Leader or his designee."

So unless House Majority Leader Eric Cantor (R-VA) wanted the Senate spending bill to come to the floor, it wasn't going to happen. And it didn't.




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KamaAina Oct 2013 OP
UCmeNdc Oct 2013 #1
KamaAina Oct 2013 #2
sinkingfeeling Oct 2013 #3
MBS Oct 2013 #4
SunSeeker Oct 2013 #5
Marthe48 Oct 2013 #6
Justice Oct 2013 #7

Response to KamaAina (Original post)

Thu Oct 10, 2013, 01:38 PM

1. Now say that both sides are at fault. I dare you!

The GOP wanted this all along. Period!

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Response to UCmeNdc (Reply #1)

Thu Oct 10, 2013, 01:42 PM

2. Both sides are at fault.

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Response to KamaAina (Original post)

Thu Oct 10, 2013, 02:18 PM

3. That needs to be broadcast to all Americans. They changed the rules for a specific

bill to avoid the shutdown! They are lower than earth worms.

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Response to KamaAina (Original post)

Thu Oct 10, 2013, 02:24 PM

4. outrageous.

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Response to KamaAina (Original post)

Thu Oct 10, 2013, 03:23 PM

5. The fix was in when Gingrich de-coupled debt ceiling raises from budgets.

That was back in the mid-nineties. That allowed Congress to spend, without authorizing that the bills that budget racked up be paid.

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Response to KamaAina (Original post)

Thu Oct 10, 2013, 08:19 PM

6. Sounds illegal to me,

but what do I know? If the House Dems push the question the constitutionality of the rule change, what will happen? The Supreme Court limited Bush v Gore to that single decision, and I don't think it has gotten any more unbiased since then.

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Response to KamaAina (Original post)

Thu Oct 10, 2013, 08:25 PM

7. The nuclear option, house style. Why didn't Democrats tell us this?

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