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Wed May 8, 2013, 10:26 AM

We might have come to regret a Colbert Busch victory.....

Elizabeth Colbert Busch seeks to distance herself from national Democrats “It’s cutting into Medicare benefits and it’s having companies lay off their employees because they are worried about the cost of it,” she said at a debate.

Democrat Elizabeth Colbert Busch sought to distance herself from the national party, calling Obamacare “extremely problematic.”

Colbert Busch, who is running in a special election against former South Carolina Gov. Mark Sanford for South Carolina’s 1st congressional district, noted while there are some good parts of the health care law, she was troubled by it's cost and the burden it could put on employers.

“Obamacare is extremely problematic, it is expensive, it is a $ 500 billion cost than we originally anticipated, it's cutting into Medicare benefits and it's having companies lay off their employees because they are worried about the cost of it. That is extremely problematic, it needs an enormous fix,” she said during a debate Monday night.

http://www.latestdailynews.com/colbert-busch-calls-obamacare-extremely-problematic/


i know LBJ said it's better to have them in the tent pissing out than outside the tent pissing in, but I'm starting to think he was wrong about that.

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Reply We might have come to regret a Colbert Busch victory..... (Original post)
hedgehog May 2013 OP
Warpy May 2013 #1
treestar May 2013 #2
hedgehog May 2013 #3
treestar May 2013 #4
Bluenorthwest May 2013 #5
hedgehog May 2013 #6
treestar May 2013 #7
NYC Liberal May 2013 #8
Addison May 2013 #9
Bake May 2013 #10
bigwillq May 2013 #11

Response to hedgehog (Original post)

Wed May 8, 2013, 10:33 AM

1. She's right, to a point

There have been massive job losses all across the health care spectrum because the bean counters have no idea how the ACA is going to play out in practice. They're terrified they'll be providing the maximum in care with the highest number of employees and be bankrupt in two years.

Most of their worries are unfounded, of course, but hospitals are going to be hit hard by the loss of revenue from uninsured patients who try to pay their bills, typically at least triple what the insurance companies shell out for the same services. If everyone is insured, their revenue stream will go down.

Insurance companies are still trying to fight it because let's face it, they're greedy and don't want to work for an honest living.

My hope is that the for profit insurance companies start to pull out of the less profitable markets, thus forcing single payer on a state by state basis. It will take longer that way, but at least it will start to happen. DC sure can't be counted on to do any of the right things about this mess.

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Response to hedgehog (Original post)

Wed May 8, 2013, 10:34 AM

2. Would have been a Blue Dog type

or worse, interesting. Some of the posters who say there is no difference should logically be saying there is no difference here.

SC is not going to send progressives to any office - maybe there is one district that might, but overall, no.

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Response to treestar (Reply #2)

Wed May 8, 2013, 10:42 AM

3. I think Blue Dogs feed into the theory that the two parties are two sides of the same coin.

Why vote if it makes no difference who wins?

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Response to hedgehog (Reply #3)

Wed May 8, 2013, 10:45 AM

4. Well in this case there was a difference

The R had used public money to see his mistress. So if he won because of liberals S.Carolinians who stayed home because his positions on the issues were no different than Colbert-Busches, shame on them. They had a choice between a liar and hypocrite, at least, so they should have gone out to vote.

If this kind of progressive really exists, I think they must be such truly hateful, spiteful people that it's hard to believe they can be true liberals in their heads. Or that any party can do a damn thing to please them.

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Response to treestar (Reply #4)

Wed May 8, 2013, 10:52 AM

5. Logic tells us that if a 'conservative Democrat' loses votes to a Republican, those votes

belong to conservatives, independents, moderate centrists, that sort of thing. That seems to be all they have in SC, this is the State where Obama did those shows with Donnie McClurkin and the other anti gay preachers and entertainers. At that time, OFA folks told me that SC Democrats are largely very conservative, and the ONLY way to win their votes included a need to 'prove Obama's standing in the faith community' by employing hate preachers off the 700 Club to act as surrogate to the candidate. What this tells me is that those who embraced the hypocrisy of the McClurkin events would be happy to embrace Sanford, who is also a hypocrite like they are a good heterosexual hypocrite who says Jesus and does what he wants. Just like they are.

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Response to treestar (Reply #4)

Wed May 8, 2013, 10:52 AM

6. OTOH - the best the Republicans could do in a solid Red district

was to nominate Sanford? We need to use this!(unless of course Anthony Weiner gets the nod for the NYC mayoral race..... )

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Response to hedgehog (Reply #6)

Wed May 8, 2013, 10:54 AM

7. Really true!

How come they could not find someone else who did not have this history of seeing a mistress and using government money to do it!!!

There should be plenty of men in South Carolina who have tea party views and no such history. Who should have been considered preferable by the Tea Partiers themselves. It is truly astounding!

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Response to hedgehog (Reply #3)

Wed May 8, 2013, 12:50 PM

8. Because even blue dogs typically vote with the party

85-90% of the time. Name one republican who would vote with the Dems 90% of the time.

Plus, they matter for procedural reasons. The majority party makes committee assignments and sets the agenda. Doesn't matter the ideology of individual members; if there are 50%+1 D's, Dems control a lot just from that.

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Response to hedgehog (Original post)

Wed May 8, 2013, 01:06 PM

9. Obamacare IS extremely problematic

No surprise considering it was developed by Republicans and only entrenches the dominance of private insurers.

Of course, regardless, Busch had to "distance herself from the national party" if she wanted to have any chance at all of winning.

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Response to Addison (Reply #9)

Fri May 10, 2013, 11:53 AM

10. We need to just bite the bullet and pass single payor.

Cut defense spending just a wee little bit and single payor is paid for. And then ALL Americans get health care. Screw the insurance companies, they're just leeches anyway. And screw GE, General Dynamics, and all the rest of the defense leeches sucking at the Pentagon teat. We can not afford to be the world's policeman any longer when our own people are dying with no healthcare.

Single payor is what is needed.

Bake

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Response to hedgehog (Original post)

Fri May 10, 2013, 11:59 AM

11. Why?

Because she spoke the truth?

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