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Wed Feb 27, 2013, 02:50 AM

I appreciate Rep. Ellisonís effort to shut that piece of shit Hannity up tonight..

but I think he let it turn into to much of a yelling match. We have the facts on our side,( for instance on the Deficit) and Ellison should have perhaps stopped Hannity in his tracks and shoved the fucking truth in his face.

From Politifact .



The final Congressional Budget Office baseline deficit projection before Obama took office -- noted in table 5 in this January 2009 CBO report -- showed a fiscal year 2009 deficit of $1.19 trillion.

That figure doesnít account for any of Obamaís own spending initiatives, such as the stimulus bill. But the deficit grew quickly under Obama: The fiscal 2009 deficit rose to $1.41 trillion and has remained above $1 trillion annually ever since.

But compared to what Obama inherited, the annual deficit has gone down slightly. CBO projects that for fiscal 2012, which has just ended, the fiscal 2012 deficit will be $1.09 trillion

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Reply I appreciate Rep. Ellisonís effort to shut that piece of shit Hannity up tonight.. (Original post)
busterbrown Feb 2013 OP
Spitfire of ATJ Feb 2013 #1
JHB Feb 2013 #4
Spitfire of ATJ Feb 2013 #5
LiberalFighter Feb 2013 #2
lunatica Feb 2013 #3
Arkana Feb 2013 #6

Response to busterbrown (Original post)

Wed Feb 27, 2013, 04:54 AM

1. In a recent poll it turns out the rich are obsessed with the deficit....

The rest of us consider jobs and the economy to be more important.

But since the rich OWN Washington what we see is Democrats bragging that they can cut the deficit, lay off more workers and increase profits for the rich better than Republicans.

Mainly because the people who would scream the loudest if Republicans did it are part of their base and will support the effort.

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Response to Spitfire of ATJ (Reply #1)

Thu Feb 28, 2013, 10:05 AM

4. Correction: obesessed with low taxes & high profit. Their worry about the deficit does not extend...

...to accepting higher top-end taxation, nor to accepting higher overhead (reducing profits) by paying higher wages to give employees more spending power to stimulate the economy through "free market" means.


If the deficit is a WW2-grade threat and the biggest share of it was incurred by the Bush tax cuts, then maybe WW2-grade taxation is in order. Or at least the fraction-of-WW2-rates that existed under Clinton.

But the "obsessed with the deficit" people seem to have other priorities than reducing it.

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Response to JHB (Reply #4)

Thu Feb 28, 2013, 11:47 AM

5. Some of them honestly believe government could make a profit if they ran it.

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Response to busterbrown (Original post)

Wed Feb 27, 2013, 05:48 PM

2. Ellison made a mistake comparing him to a journalist.

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Response to LiberalFighter (Reply #2)

Thu Feb 28, 2013, 07:20 AM

3. Yeah

Comparing him to a sack of shit would have been more appropriate.

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Response to busterbrown (Original post)

Thu Feb 28, 2013, 12:09 PM

6. Hannity's one of those schmucks who needs yelling at.

We tried being calm and rational; it didn't work.

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