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Sun Feb 17, 2013, 05:15 PM

Never trust the GOP on anything

Quoting the article:


Harry Reid, you have no one to blame but yourself for holding out your hand yet again to hostage takers and expecting them to stop taking hostages. Hey, Harry, they are hardwired to be pernicious and ignore civility, what did you expect?



Hey Harry, you represent Nevada so you should know, if you sit down at a poker table and can't spot the sucker get up--because you're it.

Quit getting played.






http://truth-out.org/buzzflash/commentary/item/17811-hagel-gets-filibustered-by-gop-while-democrats-unanimously-backed-cheney-and-rumsfeld-for-defense-secretary

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Reply Never trust the GOP on anything (Original post)
kairos12 Feb 2013 OP
graham4anything Feb 2013 #1
kairos12 Feb 2013 #2
graham4anything Feb 2013 #3
blkmusclmachine Feb 2013 #4
thetruthhurtsforsome Feb 2013 #5
cliffordu Feb 2013 #7
RickFromMN Feb 2013 #6
world wide wally Feb 2013 #8
trueblue2007 Feb 2013 #9
rachel1 Feb 2013 #10

Response to kairos12 (Original post)

Sun Feb 17, 2013, 05:53 PM

1. Disagree completely

 

President Obama has roped the dopes again with his 10 step ahead chess match

and Harry Reid is a great poker player, not to mention a great former boxer.

Harry is akin to Angelo Dundee.

they are the ones who pulled a fast one over the republicans by not doing what the republicans thought they were going to do, and wanted them to do, because at that time,
the republicans quite well expect to win the Senate back

and if that happens, sure as Harry, the Democrats would want to be able to do to the republicans what they have done here.

And Hagel is going to pass. What the world saw was the repubs obstructing one of their own and the world shakes their head in bemusement.

Obama and Harry won again.
Hagel will be seated in the next 2 weeks.
And it matters little that he wasn't now.

Master strokes of genius from two masters. IMHO. 10 steps ahead.

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Response to graham4anything (Reply #1)

Sun Feb 17, 2013, 06:55 PM

2. The Rethug Long Game

The obstruction to Hagel is about raising the bar. The thugs are maneuvering for the next four years. By making this momentary obstruction of Hagel seem viable they are playing for the next Supreme Court seat and for the ones after that. They will filibuster Obama's nominee, even though they pledged never to do that. The thugs are looking at losing the agenda for the next four years and possibly, more years with Hillary.

I agree this is a chess match. A fifty move match. By not changing the rules Harry may have lost the match.

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Response to kairos12 (Reply #2)

Sun Feb 17, 2013, 07:14 PM

3. wrong. And Bush proved something.

 

Bush knowingly nominated a person he knew wouldn't pass.
And got the person he actually wanted

Myers/Alito.

W wasn't stupid but it suited him to have people think so.

Alito is probably the worst of all 9. And it was nominating Myers that allowed Alito.

Had he nominated Alito first, Alito would not have passed.

remember that lesson

By the time he needs to nominate a new SCOTUS they won't be able to obstruct and he should easily get 3 choices before his second term is over (four if the 4th retires knowing Hillary will win.)

And he already in an even worse climate, got 2 of the best choices in recent times through
(Sotomayer and Kagen).

The tea party is getting less and less popular, so they are more and more margionalized.

If I were President Obama, I would nominate Eric Holder to the court and see what happens.
Then find someone just as good and much younger if they say no.

Or maybe just go straight ahead and nominate Michelle.
Let them try and say no to her.

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Response to kairos12 (Original post)

Mon Feb 18, 2013, 04:42 AM

4. Reid knows.

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Response to kairos12 (Original post)

Mon Feb 18, 2013, 08:00 AM

5. In boxing parlance Harry Reid is nothing but a bum*

 

*A boxing term used to label easily-beaten and out-of-shape/unskilled/past-their-prime boxers who should never have stepped into the ring to face stronger competition.

Of course some will disagree but I am no longer interested in the failed policies and ideas of the corporate, third way, centrists, dinos anyway.

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Response to thetruthhurtsforsome (Reply #5)

Mon Feb 18, 2013, 02:34 PM

7. Well, gosh.

Thanks for sharing.

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Response to kairos12 (Original post)

Mon Feb 18, 2013, 09:10 AM

6. I think Reid made a mistake on Filibuster reform. Time will tell.


In Reid's defense, he is closer to the situation than we armchair quarterbacks.
There may be reasons Reid did what he did we don't understand.

I don't cotton to the idea put forward we couldn't have better filibuster reform because we will eventually be in the minority. The Republicans, should they gain the majority, will change the filibuster rules to suit them. I don't accept the Republicans will play "nice" with filibuster reform because the Democrats played nice.

As I said I still think Reid made a mistake.

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Response to RickFromMN (Reply #6)

Mon Feb 18, 2013, 02:44 PM

8. Ding!... We have a winner!

EXACTLY right

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Response to kairos12 (Original post)

Mon Feb 18, 2013, 07:01 PM

9. FILIBUSTER IS BROKE ..... FIX IT NOW. Harry Reid, you have no one to blame but yourself.

FIX IT NOW.

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Response to kairos12 (Original post)

Mon Feb 18, 2013, 07:14 PM

10. In my opinion, only fundies and megalomaniacs would support a party that advocates

warmongering, lying, hypocrisy, and violating civil rights anytime they can.

Fortunately, that party is no longer in power.

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