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Thu Feb 14, 2013, 01:22 PM

Revive The Threat Of Filibuster Reform, Harry Reid

Harry Reid announced this morning that he will proceed with a vote tomorrow on Chuck Hagelís nomination as defense secretary, even as Republicans have indicated that they will proceed with the filibuster of the nominee. Meanwhile, Sam Stein reports that Democrats are just short of the votes to overcome the filibuster.

If this isnít enough to get Reid to revive the threat of filibuster reform, nothing will be enough.

Hagelís fate remains unclear. Philip Klein reports today that Senate Republicans are divided into several camps; while some of them are prepared to filibuster him, others are on the fence. Those in the latter group profess to be frustrated by the administrationís supposed lack of disclosure on the Benghazi story, but could vote for cloture, anyway. According to Klein, ďThere is concern within the Republican caucus about the precedent that would be set by filibustering a cabinet nominee.Ē Thatís good to hear, but still, these Senators may oppose him.So Hagel could go down.

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Look, we should have seen this all coming. Indeed, Jonathan Bernstein did see it coming, noting recently that GOP conduct throughout Obamaís first term clearly suggested the likelihood that Dems would need 60 votes to get Hagel confirmed. And here we are.

I donít know how this is going to play out, but if Hagel does go down, itís hard to imagine anything happening that makes as eloquent a case for Reid and Democrats revisiting filibuster reform than this affair will have done. Remember, the watered down filibuster reform deal Reid agreed to was at least partly premised on the idea that both sides were at least somewhat committed to ending some of the abuses that rendered the Senate dysfunctional during Obamaís first term. We now see that Republicans are making a mockery of that arrangement. This goes well beyond Hagel; as always, it goes to the question of whether we are going to have a functional Senate.

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Reply Revive The Threat Of Filibuster Reform, Harry Reid (Original post)
Purveyor Feb 2013 OP
demwing Feb 2013 #1
Purveyor Feb 2013 #8
riqster Feb 2013 #2
think Feb 2013 #3
TeamPooka Feb 2013 #4
brooklynite Feb 2013 #7
Drahthaardogs Feb 2013 #11
Light House Feb 2013 #5
KharmaTrain Feb 2013 #6
babylonsister Feb 2013 #9
Third Doctor Feb 2013 #10

Response to Purveyor (Original post)

Thu Feb 14, 2013, 01:26 PM

1. I believe that this ship done sailed

after the first official day of the new Senate.

So now what?

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Response to demwing (Reply #1)

Thu Feb 14, 2013, 02:20 PM

8. What is this 'nuclear option' I've heard about in the past regarding the filibuster? eom

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Response to Purveyor (Original post)

Thu Feb 14, 2013, 01:30 PM

2. You can't have a gentlemen's agreement

...when the other party is not a Gentleman.

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Response to riqster (Reply #2)

Thu Feb 14, 2013, 01:36 PM

3. Bingo /nt

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Response to Purveyor (Original post)

Thu Feb 14, 2013, 01:44 PM

4. Harry fucked up. He believed the Republicans.

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Response to TeamPooka (Reply #4)

Thu Feb 14, 2013, 02:00 PM

7. No, he didn't.

I spoke to him about this last year. He knows he got burned in 2011, and wanted to change the rules. He didn't have the Democratic votes to do it, and the Whips don't have the influence that they do in the House.

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #7)

Thu Feb 14, 2013, 07:44 PM

11. Well, that is when you threaten to strip their committee memberships,

not allow their votes on the floor and basically threaten to make their constituents hate their ass. This is politics. If you do not have the votes, you TAKE the damned votes. We need a little more Don Corelone and a little fucking less Don Rickles.

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Response to Purveyor (Original post)

Thu Feb 14, 2013, 01:49 PM

5. Too late.

 

The new rules have already been approved and they can't be changed until a new Senate is seated.

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Response to Purveyor (Original post)

Thu Feb 14, 2013, 01:50 PM

6. He'd Need 67 Votes...

...to change the rules now. Taint gonna happen...

Shame on the 9 Democratic Senators that prevented the talking filibuster rule....not that it would have made any difference, the rushpublicans are hellbent on making Washington as dysfunctional as possible.

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Response to Purveyor (Original post)

Thu Feb 14, 2013, 04:16 PM

9. Rec'd. Yes, revisit this puppy; the rethugs reneged, as was

predicted.

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Response to Purveyor (Original post)

Thu Feb 14, 2013, 04:26 PM

10. It's Reid and certain Dems' fault that this is happening.

I can't see anything meaningful getting done in the senate or house anytime soon.

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