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Wed Feb 13, 2013, 04:32 PM

Harry Reid Files For Cloture On Hagel Nomination

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV) filed for cloture on the nomination of Chuck Hagel as the secretary of defense on Wednesday, saying it was the first time in history that such a nomination faced a filibuster.

"What a shame," Reid said on the Senate floor. "But, that's the way it is."

The Senate will vote to end debate on Friday, ultimately requiring 60 votes to proceed to final confirmation.



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Reply Harry Reid Files For Cloture On Hagel Nomination (Original post)
octoberlib Feb 2013 OP
Firebrand Gary Feb 2013 #1
DrToast Feb 2013 #2
savalez Feb 2013 #23
graham4anything Feb 2013 #3
TwilightGardener Feb 2013 #4
Inuca Feb 2013 #7
TwilightGardener Feb 2013 #8
Samantha Feb 2013 #10
TwilightGardener Feb 2013 #14
denverbill Feb 2013 #5
octoberlib Feb 2013 #6
jenmito Feb 2013 #9
jenmito Feb 2013 #11
octoberlib Feb 2013 #13
jenmito Feb 2013 #15
Jennicut Feb 2013 #16
jenmito Feb 2013 #17
Inuca Feb 2013 #20
TwilightGardener Feb 2013 #21
Inuca Feb 2013 #19
avebury Feb 2013 #12
SunSeeker Feb 2013 #22
struggle4progress Feb 2013 #18

Response to octoberlib (Original post)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 04:34 PM

1. Excellent!



We have to much to do and the GOP is going to try to do what they did in 2009 and slow/clog the whole process.

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Response to octoberlib (Original post)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 04:34 PM

2. If only Harry Reid could have done something about this...

Oh wait, he totally could have!!!!

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Response to DrToast (Reply #2)

Thu Feb 14, 2013, 12:43 PM

23. I think you're wrong about that.

He only had the votes for the modest reforms, not the tougher ones.

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Response to octoberlib (Original post)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 04:40 PM

3. Harry Reid is Angelo Dundee to President Obama's rope-a-dope. Go Harry! 10 steps ahead.

 

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Response to octoberlib (Original post)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 04:45 PM

4. Sickening. The Israel/neocon/MIC lobbies have spoken, and Reid is ineffective.

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Response to TwilightGardener (Reply #4)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 06:46 PM

7. From what I read

(sorry, no link) the fact that he filed for cloture most likely means that he DOES have the votes, otherwise the behind the scenes stuff would have continued. But still, I agree, sickening is the word.

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Response to Inuca (Reply #7)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 06:52 PM

8. I hope so--but this is unprecedented because there would normally be

an ethics or conduct reason to force 60 votes. It's a rebuke to either Hagel or President Obama (probably both) even if he's confirmed.

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Response to Inuca (Reply #7)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 07:50 PM

10. That is what I am thinking

He must have the votes. I don't think he would embarrass President Obama and Hagel if that were not the case.

Sam

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Response to Samantha (Reply #10)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 08:24 PM

14. Reid wouldn't want that. But the Repubs would love a chance to embarrass them (again).

They just have to weigh the political cost of not allowing this to come to a vote (and leaving us with no SecDef in a time of war) against the payoff from their donors to stop this nomination.

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Response to octoberlib (Original post)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 04:46 PM

5. Who could have predicted that the Republicans would filibuster everything?

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Response to denverbill (Reply #5)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 04:52 PM

6. I know.

It's so out of character, right?

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Response to octoberlib (Original post)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 07:29 PM

9. Reid must know he has at least 60 votes. As of a week ago, according to CNN::

According to a CNN survey of senators, the five are Thad Cochran of Mississippi and Mike Johanns of Nebraska -who both support Hagel taking over the top post at the Pentagon -- and John McCain of Arizona, Richard Burr of North Carolina, and Tom Coburn of Oklahoma -- who all oppose Hagel's nomination but also disagree with blocking it by filibuster.

At least four other Republican senators - Susan Collins of Maine, Lisa Murkowski of Alaska, Dean Heller of Nevada and Roy Blunt of Missouri -- have said they are not inclined to back a filibuster but haven't made a final decision.

http://www.wmur.com/news/politics/Hagel-approval-all-but-certain/-/9857748/18422016/-/w7oe50/-/index.html

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Response to octoberlib (Original post)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 08:04 PM

11. Even when the filibuster is defeated, won't they have to wait weeks for their final vote (don't

they go on vacation after Friday)?

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Response to jenmito (Reply #11)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 08:21 PM

13. Yep. They're on break from 2/18 - 2/26.

Looks like they're in session the whole month of March. I hope they act quickly.

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Response to octoberlib (Reply #13)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 08:45 PM

15. Thanks. If they clear the filibuster on Friday, though, they'll only need 51 votes whenever they

get to their final vote. And we have 55 Dems. It'll just be delayed.

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Response to jenmito (Reply #15)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 09:58 PM

16. Because not having a Sec of State for a month is so useful.

Ugggg. There is no point to this. It's not about Hagel. It is just pure hatred of Obama by the Repubs.

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Response to Jennicut (Reply #16)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 10:13 PM

17. Of course.

And of course again.

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Response to Jennicut (Reply #16)

Thu Feb 14, 2013, 08:05 AM

20. Actually in this case

I think it's about BOTH. Hagel has forcefully stepped on many republican toes.

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Response to Jennicut (Reply #16)

Thu Feb 14, 2013, 10:36 AM

21. It's partly about Hagel. If the neoconservative movement which still rules the GOP's foreign policy

manages to send Hagel to defeat, they'll keep from power one of the few Repubs who says openly that the Iraq war was a terrible mistake and that spreading freedom-n-democracy in the middle east is a bad idea. This way, opposition to war becomes just a political and purely Democratic position, not a true national-interest position. They'll also make him a permanent ugly example of what happens when you disagree with the tactics or demands of certain...lobbies. Think anyone will ever step out of line again, even in the most mild ways? Also, of course, the war machine wants its $$$, and Hagel is a threat to that--he was known to be a pretty effective businessman. But hurting Obama is also a nice two-fer.

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Response to octoberlib (Reply #13)

Thu Feb 14, 2013, 08:04 AM

19. Not any more

Assuming the cloture vote does not fail, Reid has scheduled the actual vote on the nomination for Saturday.

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Response to octoberlib (Original post)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 08:14 PM

12. I always say that the Democrats are their own worst

enemies. Reid should be moved from the Senate Majority Leader for not bringing real reform to the filibuster process. He is such a wimp.

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Response to avebury (Reply #12)

Thu Feb 14, 2013, 12:35 PM

22. Yup. Dems should be on TV screaming about this.

But all Reid can muster is a whisper...like those poor laboratory beagles who've had their vocal chords removed.

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Response to octoberlib (Original post)

Thu Feb 14, 2013, 12:33 AM

18. Senate Democrats, Accusing G.O.P. of Obstruction, Try to Force Hagel Vote


By JEREMY W. PETERS and MARK MAZZETTI
Published: February 13, 2013

... Republicans, sensitive to the accusation that they were filibustering Mr. Hagel, tried to draw a distinction between a filibuster and delaying the vote because of unanswered questions.

“There’s nothing unusual about this,” said Senator James M. Inhofe, the senior Republican on the Armed Services Committee, who on Tuesday suggested without evidence that Mr. Hagel was “cozy” with Iran, an accusation that caused the committee meeting to erupt with Democratic outrage. “There’s not a filibuster,” he added.

Even if Republicans succeeded in dragging out the vote into the weekend, Democrats said they remained confident that he would be confirmed by Saturday because Republicans did not appear to have the 40 votes necessary to block the nomination. Such a move would be an extraordinary step, and one that Republicans seem wary of taking should they find themselves in the White House four years from now.

Senator Rand Paul, Republican of Kentucky, meanwhile, said on Wednesday that he intended to try to block the nomination of John O. Brennan, Mr. Obama’s choice to be director of the C.I.A., until Mr. Brennan provides answers to questions he had on the scope and legality of the Obama administration’s drone operations. Democrats have also sought to extract more information from the White House about those operations ...

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/14/us/politics/senate-democrats-accusing-gop-of-obstruction-try-to-force-hagel-vote.html?_r=0

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