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Thu Feb 7, 2013, 06:53 PM

PPP: Rubio & Hillary lead their parties for 2016; Hillary 8 points ahead of Rubio in matchup

February 07, 2013

New PPP polls both nationally and in Iowa find Marco Rubio and Hillary Clinton leading the way for their party's respective 2016 nominations, with Clinton leading Rubio by 8 points in a hypothetical head to head.

For the third month in a row in our national 2016 GOP tracking Rubio leads the way. He's at 22% to 15% for Paul Ryan, 13% each for Jeb Bush and Chris Christie, 11% for Mike Huckabee, 10% for Rand Paul, 4% for Bobby Jindal, 3% for Rick Perry, and 1% for Susana Martinez. Rubio continues to lead based on his appeal to the furthest right segment of the Republican Party- he's at 28% with 'very conservative' voters to 15% for Huckabee and 14% for Ryan.

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On the Democratic side Hillary Clinton continues to dominate both nationally and in Iowa. Nationally she's at 58% to 19% for Joe Biden, 8% for Elizabeth Warren, and 3% for Andrew Cuomo. She's even stronger in Iowa at 68% to 21% for Biden with no one else over 2%. Her favorability rating with Democrats there is 90/5.

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Clinton leads in head to head match ups nationally with all of the leading Republicans. She's up 8 on Rubio 49/41, 6 on Bush and Ryan at 49/43 and 50/44 respectively, and 46/42 on Christie. Biden does an average of 3 points worse than Clinton against the Republicans- he's up 48/43 on Rubio, 49/45 on Ryan, 48/45 on Bush, and ties Christie at 44.

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More at link:

http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2013/02/looking-ahead-to-2016-nationally-and-in-iowa.html

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Reply PPP: Rubio & Hillary lead their parties for 2016; Hillary 8 points ahead of Rubio in matchup (Original post)
TroyD Feb 2013 OP
hedgehog Feb 2013 #1
bigdarryl Feb 2013 #2
davidpdx Feb 2013 #3
libertyandjustice24 Feb 2013 #5
davidpdx Feb 2013 #6
BlueStater Feb 2013 #8
Rozlee Feb 2013 #10
davidpdx Feb 2013 #11
libertyandjustice24 Feb 2013 #15
TroyD Feb 2013 #7
Cosmocat Feb 2013 #13
BlueStater Feb 2013 #4
Gentle-man Feb 2013 #9
davidpdx Feb 2013 #12
antigop Feb 2013 #24
NewJeffCT Feb 2013 #14
BlueStater Feb 2013 #20
flamingdem Feb 2013 #21
Drunken Irishman Feb 2013 #16
Beacool Feb 2013 #17
Drunken Irishman Feb 2013 #19
Little Star Feb 2013 #22
Beacool Feb 2013 #18
antigop Feb 2013 #23

Response to TroyD (Original post)

Thu Feb 7, 2013, 06:54 PM

1. 2016 is sooooooo yesterday; I want to see the matchups for 2024!

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Response to TroyD (Original post)

Thu Feb 7, 2013, 07:15 PM

2. Bullshit poll Rubio isn't going to be there nominee

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Response to bigdarryl (Reply #2)

Thu Feb 7, 2013, 07:20 PM

3. I wouldn't underestimate the Republicans

They are going to try to push for someone further right. Rubio not only fits that description, but he is also a minority. Republicans know they are in trouble because of their lack of ability to get minorities to vote for them. Now, I'm not saying this will work. I'm saying they may try it.

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Response to davidpdx (Reply #3)

Thu Feb 7, 2013, 07:37 PM

5. Rubio will do a lot better than Mitt Romney I suppose.

 

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Response to libertyandjustice24 (Reply #5)

Thu Feb 7, 2013, 07:46 PM

6. In the primary or GE?

In the primary yes, in the GE I think he'll do worse.

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Response to davidpdx (Reply #6)

Thu Feb 7, 2013, 07:57 PM

8. This poll indicates that Marco would do WORSE than both Jeb and Christie in the GE.

He's a lightweight empty suit that's not ready for the national stage.

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Response to BlueStater (Reply #8)

Thu Feb 7, 2013, 10:32 PM

10. You forget that empty suits have historically won Republican presidential elections.

I'm looking at the emptiest suit of all, George W. Bush. But, Rubio does have his share of problems with gaffes and a history of rigidity against women's reproductive rights. Plus, as far as Hispanics go, he's not popular with us outside of Florida. He'll probably swing pretty hard to the right during the primaries to woo the teabaggers, then have to kiss up to women, youths and other minorities in the general elections to make up for lost ground. He's like Mitt; he's flipped flopped on too many issues like Social Security, immigration and contraception.

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Response to Rozlee (Reply #10)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 05:15 AM

11. Empty suits do seem to be an increasing trend for the Republicans since W ran

for president. Bush had some serious help winning though (both times) and also got a much higher percentage of the Latino vote then the next two nominees after him. Neither Grampa McGrumpy or Mitt the Money Man seemed to match that.

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Response to davidpdx (Reply #6)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 01:23 PM

15. I guess two factors come into play. The next election will be much easier to win for the Republicans

 

simply because it is hard to defeat an incumbent no matter who it is. Also, I just felt like Mitt Romney did not really want to be in the race. He got in it because he was the Republicans best hope so he obliged. I think its obvious Gary Johnson will win though haha.

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Response to bigdarryl (Reply #2)

Thu Feb 7, 2013, 07:49 PM

7. Who do you think will be the GOP nominee in 2016?

Because Rubio definitely has a shot at it.

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Response to bigdarryl (Reply #2)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 08:26 AM

13. It is a long time, obviously, but IMNSHO

I think at the deep core, establishment level, it is pretty obvious that they think the key to them having a shot at the Presidency in 2016 is to deal with their issues with Hispanics.

In their simple minded, entitled bubble, they think they should get hispanics to vote for them because of their "conservative values."

It is driving them nuts that they can't just get them to brainlessly pull the level for them like every other group they have managed to con into their fold.

The ONLY thing they are willing to be active participants (do their job) in congress over the next two years is immigration reform, because they believe it will be to their political advantage.

You already see them putting Rubio in front of that.

IMO, they will be the jackasses they are, scream how the world would have come to an end if the president had his way with immigration reform (it will be simple common sense crape we all agree on), tout how it only passed because of Rubio's great leadership, and angle to get him on the ticket in 16, either at the top or VP.

He he is good looking, and is like Ryan, smooth in spewing their bullshit. Would likely lock up Florida.

Yeah, a lot can happen between now and then, but I think as of today this is what they are looking at.

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Response to TroyD (Original post)

Thu Feb 7, 2013, 07:35 PM

4. Whatever, PPP.

In 2005, the election for 2008 was supposed to be Hillary vs. Rudy, correct?

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Response to BlueStater (Reply #4)

Thu Feb 7, 2013, 08:37 PM

9. Plus Rubio must defeat many other wingnuts

 

It's just too early.

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Response to BlueStater (Reply #4)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 05:17 AM

12. That was what was being hyped by some

I think they wanted the grudge match that never occurred for the NY Senate seat in 2000.

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Response to BlueStater (Reply #4)

Sat Feb 9, 2013, 11:04 AM

24. it's just another attempt at the "inevitability" meme. Follow the money. Who's paying the PPP? nt

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Response to TroyD (Original post)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 09:30 AM

14. Way too early, but I think Rubio is a serious threat

He's a charismatic speaker, which is very rare for Republicans, and the media seems to like him a lot, which is huge.

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Response to NewJeffCT (Reply #14)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 05:56 PM

20. Marco is a dick.

He's got nothing going for him other than his apparent charisma that the media keeps hyping up and orgasming over. He certainly can't run on his actual record which is virtually the same as every other wretched Republican in Congress.

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Response to BlueStater (Reply #20)

Sat Feb 9, 2013, 01:42 AM

21. He has nothing and hinky things like putting over 100,000 on his GOP credit card!

for personal use... he's teflon on that. And he's best buds with Rep. Rivera a known criminal essentially with whom he bought a house in Talli that foreclosed, guy is a nothing, but true he speaks fairly well.

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Response to TroyD (Original post)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 02:15 PM

16. If Biden is really only doing three-points worse than Hillary, I want Biden.

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Response to Drunken Irishman (Reply #16)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 03:07 PM

17. In this poll, Biden is way behind Hillary.

On the Democratic side Hillary Clinton continues to dominate both nationally and in Iowa. Nationally she's at 58% to 19% for Joe Biden, 8% for Elizabeth Warren, and 3% for Andrew Cuomo. She's even stronger in Iowa at 68% to 21% for Biden with no one else over 2%. Her favorability rating with Democrats there is 90/5.

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Response to Beacool (Reply #17)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 03:15 PM

19. That's not what I'm talking about.

Clinton leads in head to head match ups nationally with all of the leading Republicans. She's up 8 on Rubio 49/41, 6 on Bush and Ryan at 49/43 and 50/44 respectively, and 46/42 on Christie. Biden does an average of 3 points worse than Clinton against the Republicans- he's up 48/43 on Rubio, 49/45 on Ryan, 48/45 on Bush, and ties Christie at 44.


The only thing I really like about Hillary is that she's electable. Well, Biden is too apparently. I like Biden more. So, if he has a legitimate shot of winning in 2016, I'd rather support him.

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Response to Beacool (Reply #17)

Sat Feb 9, 2013, 09:27 AM

22. I love Hillary. One heart for you.

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Response to TroyD (Original post)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 03:10 PM

18. Rubio is ahead of the pack in the Republican side?

Other polls don't have him at #1. I think that the Republican nomination will remain very fluid.

As for Hillary, no surprise there. She's been the most popular politician in the nation for quite a while now.

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Response to TroyD (Original post)

Sat Feb 9, 2013, 11:01 AM

23. YAWN...another stupid poll from the PPP. No one has announced. nt

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