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Tue Feb 5, 2013, 04:23 PM

Native American at Anti-Immigration Protest: 'You're All Illegal'

At a rally in Tucson, protesters who were apparently voicing their disdain for illegal immigants got an earful from a Native who may just have reached his breaking point. In the video below, a man with a child in a stroller engages the crowd, and doesn't mince his words:

"You're all fucking illegal!" he says.


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http://indiancountrytodaymedianetwork.com/2013/02/05/native-american-anti-immigration-protest-youre-all-illegal-147475

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Reply Native American at Anti-Immigration Protest: 'You're All Illegal' (Original post)
Sunlei Feb 2013 OP
annabanana Feb 2013 #1
healthnut7 Feb 2013 #2
Arctic Dave Feb 2013 #3
hopemountain Feb 2013 #4
meeshrox Feb 2013 #5
limpyhobbler Feb 2013 #6
dembotoz Feb 2013 #7
Spitfire of ATJ Feb 2013 #8
SHRED Feb 2013 #9
Fantastic Anarchist Feb 2013 #10
avebury Feb 2013 #11
Lordquinton Feb 2013 #12
John2 Feb 2013 #19
Lordquinton Feb 2013 #24
hopemountain Feb 2013 #30
sheshe2 Feb 2013 #13
John2 Feb 2013 #14
handmade34 Feb 2013 #15
Unknown Beatle Feb 2013 #16
rightsideout Feb 2013 #17
Hoyt Feb 2013 #27
Coolest Ranger Feb 2013 #18
sulphurdunn Feb 2013 #20
John2 Feb 2013 #21
sulphurdunn Feb 2013 #23
TwilightGardener Feb 2013 #22
LeftInTX Feb 2013 #25
catbyte Feb 2013 #26
libdem4life Feb 2013 #28
appacom Feb 2013 #29

Response to Sunlei (Original post)

Tue Feb 5, 2013, 05:00 PM

1. big fat kick!. . .n/t

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Response to Sunlei (Original post)

Tue Feb 5, 2013, 05:39 PM

2. He's right..

Native Americans were here before anyone else.... Some how people forget that...
Not just in the USA but in Canada as well, except in Canada they are called, "First nations" or ""Aboriginals.
They must just shake their heads as to what they see going on.
Just like the Mexican/Spanish people were also there in many States before they got booted out.

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Response to Sunlei (Original post)

Tue Feb 5, 2013, 05:54 PM

3. Look at them all run like roaches from the light.

 

Good for him.

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Response to Sunlei (Original post)

Tue Feb 5, 2013, 05:58 PM

4. give that man an eagle feather

for standing up to the ignorant with bravery and passion.
remembering you in my prayers, brother, for all of our ancestors & and all of our relations now living.

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Response to Sunlei (Original post)

Tue Feb 5, 2013, 06:24 PM

5. I love it!

How I admire him for standing up to those protestors and their bigoted puffery. He cleared every last one of them out!

A big K&R!

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Response to Sunlei (Original post)

Tue Feb 5, 2013, 06:27 PM

6. LOL I Love this guy.

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Response to Sunlei (Original post)

Tue Feb 5, 2013, 06:36 PM

7. k and r and sent to facebook

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Response to Sunlei (Original post)

Tue Feb 5, 2013, 06:42 PM

8. To repeat a phrase I coined...

Everyone wants to be Chief but nobody wants to be Brave.

...and the Brave was a well respected member of the Tribe.

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Response to Sunlei (Original post)

Tue Feb 5, 2013, 06:42 PM

9. k and r

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Response to Sunlei (Original post)

Tue Feb 5, 2013, 06:45 PM

10. I fucking love that guy!

He shut them up, too. By the end of the video, they weren't sayin' shit, now were they?

Love that guy. Pure unadulterated awesomeness.

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Response to Sunlei (Original post)

Tue Feb 5, 2013, 06:54 PM

11. K&R nt

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Response to Sunlei (Original post)

Tue Feb 5, 2013, 07:03 PM

12. Not to be that guy...

But history is a lot more complex than that. Initial Europeans were often welcomed and traded with, and used as mercs by tribes against others. There was no single nation that had borders, just a lot of nomadic tribes, with no cohesion (not trying to diminish what happened, or any cultures) plus there are strong signs that the Indians weren't the first ones here, but whenever a site is found, it gets quickly buried (often literally) by the American Indian counsels.

Also, a lot of people's ancestors had no hand in what went on with the push into reservations and so on, and to say that "It doesn't matter, they're all white Europeans" is just as dishonest, and racist as saying that all American Indians are Apaches.

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Response to Lordquinton (Reply #12)

Tue Feb 5, 2013, 07:34 PM

19. You are right,

 

it is complex. Some historians have documented the beliefs of those tribes also, which includes their Gods and Culture. There is documented research that these tribes didn't place titles on the land either or believed that any man had the rights to claim it. That is why they migrated from place to place, wherever food was plentiful, like the buffalo. The Indians believed whites destroyed that, especially with the railroad or iron horse. The Indians did not believe in borders. According to some researchers, that is why they accepted the white man at first. So who were these first people if they weren't descendants of the Indians? According to the research that I have seen, the descendants of the Indians migrated from Asia during the Ice Age. So according to this, there is a connection between the Indians and first human inhabitants of America. Those people were nomadic also.

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Response to John2 (Reply #19)

Tue Feb 5, 2013, 08:30 PM

24. There isn't much research into who they were

as site get quickly covered up. As they came here, doesn't that make them illegal too? or do they get exemption because they were first? We all need to live here together, and we need to stop squabbling over who belongs where. We all inhabit this planet, and there is room for us all if we just make it work.

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Response to Lordquinton (Reply #24)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 02:19 AM

30. excuse me,

the original indigenous people of THIS america came up from the earth. ask the hopi. ask the paiute of the sierras where they emerged from? the tubatulabal of the southern sierra, the miwok of the northern sierra these are the peoples from whom we are descended -from whom this brave warrior is descended. my ancestors were created and first lived on the island of limuw off the pacific coast and crossed to the mainland on a rainbow bridge.

you are right about one thing - other "immigrants" for thousands of years came here and took what they wanted and disappeared. evidence of these cultures and their settlements/burials - viking, phoenician, asian, etc - are covered up but by a very strict and tightly guarded academia who call themselves archeologists, anthropologists, and "scientists" who dispute any truth which threatens their power. ha!

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Response to Sunlei (Original post)

Tue Feb 5, 2013, 07:04 PM

13. You're all Illegal!

Damn that was great!

You can't take the truth, can you...you Anti-Immigration Protesters. You scatter like the Cochroache's that you are when you hear it!

Shame on you!

Thanks Sunlie, that was one moving video!

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Response to Sunlei (Original post)

Tue Feb 5, 2013, 07:08 PM

14. All you have to

 

do is throw facts from history on the rightwing. The Indians welcomed Europeans with open arms until they started to claim everything as theirs. When they say our fathers built something, actually they took it from someoneelse. What goes around can come around. And some Americans descendants were forced to come actually. And to be consistant, they helped in the theft later on. The Buffalo soldiers protected some of their descendants. So he is right, they are all illegal immigrants.

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Response to Sunlei (Original post)

Tue Feb 5, 2013, 07:11 PM

15. righteous rant

"(they) don't want to hear the truth"

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Response to Sunlei (Original post)

Tue Feb 5, 2013, 07:14 PM

16. He dispursed of that crowd quickly,

with only the truth as his weapon.

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Response to Sunlei (Original post)

Tue Feb 5, 2013, 07:22 PM

17. The Indians were here first because they had reservations

But I seriously agree with him. We (benevolent gun toting white guys) barged in on their land, killed most of them off and pretty much spoiled their land with our pollution. It's an injustice to see the conditions some of those folks live in today.

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Response to rightsideout (Reply #17)

Tue Feb 5, 2013, 08:47 PM

27. +1

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Response to Sunlei (Original post)

Tue Feb 5, 2013, 07:23 PM

18. If my great, great grandmother was alive

she'd be so proud of her people.

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Response to Sunlei (Original post)

Tue Feb 5, 2013, 07:39 PM

20. I have only one thing to say

to that gentleman: Kiss my ass. My great-great grandfather was born here and so has every other member of my family since. I have no intention of ever returning to the British Isles. I'm not British. I'm a native American, and I am not an anti-immigrant hate mongering zealot like that idiot and the flag waving morons he was railing against. My children are native Americans (one of which is a Mayan). I get sick and tired of listening to bitter fuckers like this whine about the past. It doesn't help. It was a great wrong to conquer the aboriginal peoples of the Americas. It never had to be that way. The greater sin, if possible, was sticking the survivors of our attempted genocide on reservations and making no effort to be just toward them, pay them restitution or honor their cultures. It's not too late to do that. It is too late to return the Americas to their original inhabitants. That's never going to happen. Odds are the child in the stroller was at least half a member of another race. Once this man's people have regained their culture and their pride, this kind of pissing in the wind will cease. I don't give a rat's ass whether I'm illegal or not. I'm staying, just like my illegal Latino neighbors and the rest of the 99+percent of non-indigenous population (including those sorry ass teabaggers). There is no past. There is only the present and it leads only into the future.

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Response to sulphurdunn (Reply #20)

Tue Feb 5, 2013, 07:57 PM

21. I donot disagree with you there,

 

but some people have to be reminded of the past to understand you cannot stop the future. The teabaggers are a good example just like many of their fore fathers. This gentleman serves a purpose. The teabaggers are afraid of losing their preferred status and afraid of a changing America. They are afraid of Demographics changing the status quo. President Lincoln said it best when he realized, that you can't change what is destined. They will have to adjust and accept it. It is the leaders of the Tea Party trying to live in the past.

And to go even further into the research, many of these people were not actually wiped out as some may thing that moved into the Americas after the Ice Age. Some of these people inhabited the South American continent as they migrated further South. Many of these people may also have descendants of the first people by mixing with other people. There is a theory in the research known as reverse migration, and that is what you might be seeing now. They migrate where living conditions are preferrable. I also understand, some of their spiritual leaders in their culture predicted this in the future.

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Response to John2 (Reply #21)

Tue Feb 5, 2013, 08:19 PM

23. And I do not disagree with you.

The Tea Party lives in a past that never was. But, I suppose most of us imagine a pass that never was, even our own. I guess what makes me a little crazy is how deadly the future threatens to be and how little the lessons of the past seem to inform it, and how thinking about the past is actually counter productive to the problems the present and the future are presenting to us. There is no precedent for it, at least not on a global scale. Ignorance, orthodoxy and hate won't help get through the next century, regardless of the source. They are weaknesses we can no longer entertain. There is no where to migrate too.

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Response to Sunlei (Original post)

Tue Feb 5, 2013, 08:16 PM

22. He does have a point.

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Response to Sunlei (Original post)

Tue Feb 5, 2013, 08:42 PM

25. I hope they show up at every rally!

And hopefully there will be more of them.

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Response to Sunlei (Original post)

Tue Feb 5, 2013, 08:46 PM

26. Tell it, brother! My, the vermin scattered fast, didn't they?





Chii meegwetch for the righteous rant!

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Response to Sunlei (Original post)

Tue Feb 5, 2013, 09:40 PM

28. Migration and genocide are not equivalent.

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Response to Sunlei (Original post)

Thu Feb 7, 2013, 03:12 PM

29. Awesome and awe-inspiring

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