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Tue Feb 5, 2013, 03:35 PM

Freepers Leaving the USA

In my spare time, I enjoy reading the far right wing lunatic sites, just so I can try to see which way their madness is headed. Today, I was perusing the zaniness of a couple of sites when I came upon an article that was posted about Kasich selling out the GOP by allowing the expansion of Medicaid. The most interesting parts of any right wing wacko board is to read the comment sections, the wing nuts were out in full force attacking Kasich, but they also have a deep fear of Janet Napolitano being elected President in 2016, or as they call her the wretched "Big Sister". Thus many of the nuts started hatching plans about what country they should immigrate to since the USA was in decline and would become a dictatorship in the immediate future. What I found striking is the top two countries they listed as the best places for Conservatives to flee, which are Sweden and Australia, in that order. I'm not a world government expert, but isn't Sweden one of the most liberal countries in the world? I realize that Australia has some conservatives, but I didn't think it was hardcore. They backed up the Sweden selection with this link http://predicthistunpredictpast.blogspot.com/search?q=sweden. Seriously, when I think of countries that Right Wing Wacko's could relocate too and feel comfortable, I am pretty limited in most of the world. I think their best relocation spots would be somewhere in Africa where they have no taxes. So, I found another Conservative site that tells wacko's what countries are most likely to accept Conservative views and they list in no order: Switzerland, Australia, New Zealand, Cayman Islands, Ireland, Taiwan and Luxembourg as the most Conservative friendly relocation countries. Wow, I was thinking more along the lines of Iraq, Congo, Etc....

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Reply Freepers Leaving the USA (Original post)
Mojo2 Feb 2013 OP
abelenkpe Feb 2013 #1
Brother Buzz Feb 2013 #12
LostinRed Feb 2013 #36
Brother Buzz Feb 2013 #37
LostinRed Feb 2013 #38
bluedigger Feb 2013 #2
Zen Democrat Feb 2013 #3
SoCalNative Feb 2013 #13
fujiyama Feb 2013 #24
Ter Feb 2013 #48
Warpy Feb 2013 #34
Scootaloo Feb 2013 #35
treestar Feb 2013 #59
LongTomH Feb 2013 #4
rdharma Feb 2013 #5
LiberalFighter Feb 2013 #6
Shrike47 Feb 2013 #7
fujiyama Feb 2013 #25
Proud Liberal Dem Feb 2013 #62
NICO9000 Feb 2013 #8
rdharma Feb 2013 #9
Yavin4 Feb 2013 #49
rdharma Feb 2013 #50
BlueStreak Feb 2013 #10
davidpdx Feb 2013 #39
BlueStreak Feb 2013 #40
davidpdx Feb 2013 #42
BlueStreak Feb 2013 #43
Zoeisright Feb 2013 #11
johnnyrocket Feb 2013 #14
ellie Feb 2013 #21
yellowcanine Feb 2013 #15
tularetom Feb 2013 #16
Diclotican Feb 2013 #19
davidpdx Feb 2013 #41
GeorgeGist Feb 2013 #17
Diclotican Feb 2013 #18
santamargarita Feb 2013 #20
jcgoldie Feb 2013 #22
Pakid Feb 2013 #23
BlueJazz Feb 2013 #26
RKP5637 Feb 2013 #30
fujiyama Feb 2013 #27
RKP5637 Feb 2013 #29
RKP5637 Feb 2013 #28
sigmasix Feb 2013 #31
Permanut Feb 2013 #32
lunasun Feb 2013 #33
Kablooie Feb 2013 #44
BlueDemKev Feb 2013 #45
Jamaal510 Feb 2013 #46
yellowcanine Feb 2013 #47
ZRT2209 Feb 2013 #51
Locrian Feb 2013 #52
Manifestor_of_Light Feb 2013 #55
bluestateguy Feb 2013 #53
DFW Feb 2013 #58
appleannie1 Feb 2013 #54
Trascoli Feb 2013 #56
Left Coast2020 Feb 2013 #57
robertkdem1965_h89 Feb 2013 #60
Sunlei Feb 2013 #61
Revanchist Feb 2013 #63

Response to Mojo2 (Original post)

Tue Feb 5, 2013, 03:39 PM

1. My Irish FIL just assured me that they would not be welcome there.

Australia and Sweden? Doubt it.

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Response to abelenkpe (Reply #1)

Tue Feb 5, 2013, 04:22 PM

12. President Michael Higgins agrees, totally!

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Response to Brother Buzz (Reply #12)

Wed Feb 6, 2013, 12:30 AM

36. What is this from its great

Is there a fuller clip with context? Who is he debating

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Response to LostinRed (Reply #36)

Wed Feb 6, 2013, 01:04 AM

37. The backstory as I understand it: Michael Graham, a wanker teabagger radio dude from New York....

guest hosted a talk radio station in Ireland. Higgins was a member of the lower house of the Irish Parliament at the time of the smackdown.


http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/breaking/2012/0823/breaking30.html

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Response to Brother Buzz (Reply #37)

Wed Feb 6, 2013, 01:06 AM

38. Thanks

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Response to Mojo2 (Original post)

Tue Feb 5, 2013, 03:39 PM

2. So Sweden is going to fill up with angry white Southern men?

That should be... interesting.

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Response to Mojo2 (Original post)

Tue Feb 5, 2013, 03:39 PM

3. There just looking for what they consider "all-white" countries. Wretched racists that they are.

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Response to Zen Democrat (Reply #3)

Tue Feb 5, 2013, 04:23 PM

13. Then they've obviously never been to Australia

awful lot of those aboriginal peoples there...

And in New Zealand too.

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Response to SoCalNative (Reply #13)

Tue Feb 5, 2013, 11:14 PM

24. About a quarter of Australia's population was born abroad

They'd be shocked how diverse it is, especially in the major cities.

Sweden has high taxes and a very generous safety net. The same goes with all Scandinavian countries. Switzerland is the closest country to "conservative ideals" (whatever those are), but taxes and the general cost of living are still high and while health care costs are higher there than most other European countries, it's still a mixed public-private system.



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Response to fujiyama (Reply #24)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 06:04 PM

48. Wouldn't Iceland be the closest?

 

n/t

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Response to SoCalNative (Reply #13)

Wed Feb 6, 2013, 12:27 AM

34. Not to mention people from all over Asia and

the Indian subcontinent. One of my favorite online people is a Pakistani grocer there.

Sweden and Switzerland are also a hell of a lot less lily white than they used to be. Ditto Eire, although their economy only briefly peaked and it's back in the toilet, so they're net exporters of people instead of importers.

I still think we need to give them Florida. It's out of the way, reasonable people would love to sell and get out, it's hot, humid and buggy, it's on a major hurricane track, and best of all, it's sinking. Let them move there and create their libertarian/Randian paradise. It would be so much fun to watch.

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Response to Zen Democrat (Reply #3)

Wed Feb 6, 2013, 12:28 AM

35. A surprising number of people think Australia still has whites-only immigration laws

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Response to Zen Democrat (Reply #3)

Sat Feb 9, 2013, 03:07 PM

59. Exactly

Every country they want to go to is more socialist than the US proving that socialism is not a true problem for them.

And of course they are ignorant of the diversity in those countries.

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Response to Mojo2 (Original post)

Tue Feb 5, 2013, 03:42 PM

4. Weren't some rightwingers emigrating to Australia in the 1970s?

I remember seeing an article titled: "Loved it and left it!" I believe they were leaving over taxes.

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Response to Mojo2 (Original post)

Tue Feb 5, 2013, 03:45 PM

5. "Freepers Leaving the USA"

 

SOMALIA! Lots of guns and no "nanny state big gubment" meddling!

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Response to Mojo2 (Original post)

Tue Feb 5, 2013, 03:47 PM

6. How will they afford to live there?

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Response to Mojo2 (Original post)

Tue Feb 5, 2013, 03:50 PM

7. There's no place where they will be totally comfortable (or welcome)

Sadly enough, a lot of people wouldn't put up with their crap. They would find they missed the First Amendment more than the Second.

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Response to Shrike47 (Reply #7)

Tue Feb 5, 2013, 11:20 PM

25. Sadly enough for us, no one else would take them

Smart of the other countries though. Considering how absolutely unhinged the right has become in this country, I don't think these other countries are interested in more radical elements in their society. Most suffer from their own neo-Nazis and other RW scumbags as it is.

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Response to Shrike47 (Reply #7)

Sun Feb 10, 2013, 12:45 AM

62. Doesn't Australia have some pretty stringent gun laws there?

They might want to re-think going there- though I'm sure they won't.

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Response to Mojo2 (Original post)

Tue Feb 5, 2013, 03:53 PM

8. Delusional white people

Like you can just up and move (legally) to a foreign country. You need a lot of cash before they'll even think about giving you a green card in Oz. Not sure about Sweden, but I imagine it's the same thing.

I guess they just threw darts at a world map and didn't stop until it landed on the "white" countries...

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Response to Mojo2 (Original post)

Tue Feb 5, 2013, 03:54 PM

9. Freepers, don't let the door hit ya!

 

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Response to rdharma (Reply #9)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 07:04 PM

49. That was funny

Thanks for posting.

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Response to Yavin4 (Reply #49)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 07:38 PM

50. Thanks for posting.

 

Thanks for the motivational encouragement for my "sarcastic humor Jihad" against the nutty and nasty righties!

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Response to Mojo2 (Original post)

Tue Feb 5, 2013, 04:03 PM

10. Consider Somalia

Low cost of living. People live there on pennies a day.

Lots of beach-front property available.

8 hours ahead of New York time. Get an early start to every day.

No meddlesome government.

All the guns any Freeper could ever want

Sure, there are black people there, but I assure you, within a couple of days that will be the least of your problems.


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Response to BlueStreak (Reply #10)

Wed Feb 6, 2013, 01:11 AM

39. You forgot to mention your ship will be hijacked

Which is the best part of them moving there. The pirates would just feed them to the sharks.

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Response to davidpdx (Reply #39)

Wed Feb 6, 2013, 01:21 AM

40. You have it all wrong.

Somalia offers many trained captains who are more than happy to escort you on the cruise of a lifetime -- one you will never forget.

Consider Somalia. It is Freeper paradise.

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Response to BlueStreak (Reply #40)

Wed Feb 6, 2013, 01:23 AM

42. If you are not in marketing

you definitely should consider a career in it.

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Response to davidpdx (Reply #42)

Wed Feb 6, 2013, 01:25 AM

43. :)

I did.

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Response to Mojo2 (Original post)

Tue Feb 5, 2013, 04:19 PM

11. Glad to see the back of them.

Fewer toxins in this country.

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Response to Mojo2 (Original post)

Tue Feb 5, 2013, 04:41 PM

14. "Well.....bye."

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Response to johnnyrocket (Reply #14)

Tue Feb 5, 2013, 07:13 PM

21. Must have video

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Response to Mojo2 (Original post)

Tue Feb 5, 2013, 04:41 PM

15. "Freepers Leaving the USA" would be a good name for a Rock Band.

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Response to Mojo2 (Original post)

Tue Feb 5, 2013, 05:11 PM

16. There has been some racial tension in Sweden

They have their share of skinheads and neo nazis and they also have some immigrants from Africa and the Middle East.

And the groups have clashed on occasion.

But one thing they tend to frown on is unregulated private ownership of firearms. While there is a high rate of gun ownership, all guns must be registered with the government and you need to demonstrate competency before you can even purchase certain types of arms.

Furthermore, even though social democracy is somewhat in decline in Sweden (as it is in much of Europe) the policies are much to the left of those in the US. I doubt that freepers, teabaggers or gun nuts would feel very comfortable there despite the relative scarcity of brown faces.

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Response to tularetom (Reply #16)

Tue Feb 5, 2013, 06:57 PM

19. tularetom

tularetom

You need to document competency to all type of weapons in Sweden, as in Norway and Denmark.. All new weapons is registered and documented - and even old weapons is registered in a form of "amnesty" every now and then. In that case a lot of weapons have been documented - registered and then given back to the owners - who have to keep them in a closed off locker who often is build as a safe of sorts...

Sweden are still in most cases a social democracy - even though it have been in decline for some years now... It is sad, because I think Social democracy have made Scandinavia what it is today - a safe, secure (mostly) and free place to live...

Sweden have had it share of neo-nazism, and other anti-emigrant organizations. Sweden have not experienced the same as Norway and Denmark who was occupied by Nazi-Germany - and therefore have had its share of neo-nazism over the last couple of decades...
They also have a lot more emigrants from distant shores - like Africa and the Middle east - and the tensions between them and the swedish ones have been building up for many decades - some of the reason is maybe because the politicians have not been able, or willing to look at some of the root causes for the problems - some parts of City's like Malmø (one of the biggest City's in Sweden) and Stockholm (the capital) is more or less closed off from the rest - dominated by emigrants with their own habits and culture.. And in some cases, this "ghettos" have had their share of extremists - who more or less rule the streets by fear and are known to attack women who they deiced is to "westernized" for their own good... The result have often been clashes between the swedish police, and some radical islamic groups, who is not afraid of burning police cars and attack police when they can. In the end the police have to use measures who it rather brutal to stop this type of radical groups taking over the streets all together and so the violence continue in new fashions all the time... It doesn't goes more easy, as the far rights groups also have making their presence known, and fights between neo-nazism and far right groups, and the counterparts of the radical left have often end up rather bloody - in some cases the two groups have been kept apart by a solid police presence.. But even then the radical left, and the extreme right have been fighting in the streets - and turing peacefully places into a war zone.. Burning stores, burning cars and other properties - and more or less destroying everything who can be destroyed...

Compared to that, we in Norway have had few extremist attacks over the years - even though we have had our share of mess also.. The early 1990s was rather messy, with far rights groups trying to attract many youth to the organizations - But the police did a good work, working to get youth out of this type of organizations, and for the most part far right organizations is to fragmented to be of any good... They are better in infighting than they are to unite to make any gain in local or national elections... (Thankfully they are that)... And I think most Norwegians is also in some form immune for it, as we know what far right can do (we was occupied between 1940 and 1945, and it is an experience I guess we do not want to experience again).. Even though we do experienced what a insane person can do - in 2011, when Anders Breivik, bombed the government offices in Oslo - and killed almost 70 young at Utøya the same day.... That is something that will continue to ripple true the population for years to come - even though we for the most part have been able to continue to be a including nation...

Diclotican

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Response to tularetom (Reply #16)

Wed Feb 6, 2013, 01:21 AM

41. I have a Facebook friend who is in Sweden

who is a lawyer and I have visited there for 2 weeks as my mom lived there for 2 1/2 years (that's a longer story).

My friend is an older guy who is very willing to talk about his country. Sweden is very liberal and has very high taxes, but they also take good care of their people.

In the past few months during all of the shootings it has been very interesting seeing his reaction and I'll tell you he is completely outraged at what is going on in the US. He confirmed what you and the other person who responded to you said about having a gun in Sweden. The other thing is he was very happy Obama was reelected as he thought Romney was a clown.

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Response to Mojo2 (Original post)

Tue Feb 5, 2013, 05:47 PM

17. Pssssst

Freepers aren't noted for their thinking skills.

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Response to Mojo2 (Original post)

Tue Feb 5, 2013, 06:36 PM

18. Mojo2

Mojo2

I for one, do not hope Sweden will allowed them into the country. I think that would be a damage to the country - who have it shares of problems as it is, with right wingers and the like... I doubt most of them know where Sweden are - and the fact that Sweden is a rather liberal country - with a king to boot (He do not have any power but anyway he is still a king)

And I would for sure not have any of them near me... I live in Norway, nabour to Sweden, and I do not want this type of people anywhere me...

Diclotican

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Response to Mojo2 (Original post)

Tue Feb 5, 2013, 07:01 PM

20. Just get the fuck out!

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Response to Mojo2 (Original post)

Tue Feb 5, 2013, 11:04 PM

22. Good thing for them theres Walmarts all over the world now.

They'll be right at home.

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Response to Mojo2 (Original post)

Tue Feb 5, 2013, 11:10 PM

23. Please leave

and while you are at it take at least 25 of your best buddies with you. The sane people in America will be very glad that you are gone as for the place that you go to I give them about 5 days before they kick your useless ass out. When they do I sure that there is some place for you maybe Mars after all you really are space cadet. Think about that because all you are good for is taking up space.

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Response to Mojo2 (Original post)

Tue Feb 5, 2013, 11:24 PM

26. To Australia ??...Great....Just Great.

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Response to BlueJazz (Reply #26)

Tue Feb 5, 2013, 11:40 PM

30. Send them to the Outback ... they all think they're expert survivalists. n/t

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Response to Mojo2 (Original post)

Tue Feb 5, 2013, 11:25 PM

27. Meh. Chickenhawks, armchair generals, and mostly whiners

Most of them are probably over 60 on a fixed income whining about their SS and medicare being cut, while at the same timing condemning socialism.

And their list is really laughable. Taiwan?! Ha. Many think Taiwan may be the first country in Asia to legalize gay marriage. Some conservatives they are!

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Response to fujiyama (Reply #27)

Tue Feb 5, 2013, 11:31 PM

29. Yeah, first on their list is how to take their SS and Medicare with with them. Of course some of

them still don't have the vaguest idea how SS and Medicare work. I write most of them off to the lowest levels of intellect. Send them off in a rowboat! Most of them probably think they can hitchhike to Sweden.


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Response to Mojo2 (Original post)

Tue Feb 5, 2013, 11:27 PM

28. Shows how F'ed stupid they are ... and illiterate. Most have probably never left mom's basement let

alone traveled outside of the US.

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Response to Mojo2 (Original post)

Tue Feb 5, 2013, 11:44 PM

31. charitable deduction?

When I saw the OP I was hopeful this was a story about an organization that is helping freepers to move from America to the right wing "promised land"- kinda like "wings of angels", but without all the millennial fear mongering.
I feel sure that most DUers would donate to such a worthy cause- just imagine; your family can help a bigoted, willfully ignorant right wing extremist move to a new homeland- unspoiled by women's rights, freedom of religion and infrastructure- Afganistan should be the best match- and live out the faux "news"-approved dream of freedumb and just us.

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Response to Mojo2 (Original post)

Tue Feb 5, 2013, 11:48 PM

32. Best post title of the week!

Maybe the year.

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Response to Mojo2 (Original post)

Tue Feb 5, 2013, 11:53 PM

33. I am glad they are finally discussing self deportation!!

I am sure they already know the Swedish language quite well and are all prepared to leave their basements and parks soon

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Response to Mojo2 (Original post)

Wed Feb 6, 2013, 12:10 PM

44. Many Freepers are proud of never having been out of the U.S.

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Response to Mojo2 (Original post)

Wed Feb 6, 2013, 05:14 PM

45. Good Riddance.

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Response to Mojo2 (Original post)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 03:04 AM

46. What's the matter with Somalia or Iraq?

Those countries would welcome them with open arms. They have just about everything that reflects the right-wing ideology. I don't get it why the wingnuts now want to move from a center-left country like the U.S. to an even further-left country like Sweden or Canada instead.

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Response to Mojo2 (Original post)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 04:16 PM

47. Correction: Freepers TALKING about leaving the U.S.

I would be willing to bet not one Freeper has left unless they went to another country with their parents.

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Response to Mojo2 (Original post)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 07:41 PM

51. are they leaving? my prayers are answered.

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Response to Mojo2 (Original post)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 07:50 PM

52. they better get ready...

to leave their guns behind. Pretty sure all those countries have restrictions on guns....

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Response to Locrian (Reply #52)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 08:10 PM

55. SOMALIA AWAITS!! NO GOVERNMENT, BRING YOUR OWN GUNS!!!

That would be paradise for them, would it not?????



Haiti's closer and it's a shithole with no functional government.

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Response to Mojo2 (Original post)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 07:56 PM

53. I have heard some conservatives mention Israel

But of course, while conservatives might like Israel's foreign policy and Palestinian policy, they would hate just about everything else: Israel is more LGBT friendly than the US and has a national health care system of sort (albeit with private insurance). As Christians, they would also have to stomach not being in the majority.

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Response to bluestateguy (Reply #53)

Sat Feb 9, 2013, 02:47 PM

58. Israel has one aspect Republicans should love

They write backwards

(J/K!!!!)

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Response to Mojo2 (Original post)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 08:02 PM

54. Freepers lack education and have no real knowledge of the world at all. It was

noted on FOX today that Germany can have solar power because they have a lot more sun than the US. That should give an indication of just how uneducated they really are. Therefore nothing they say makes sense and you really should not expect them to know what they are talking about.

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Response to Mojo2 (Original post)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 08:14 PM

56. and Australia banned guns

 

they will be shocked to find out

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Response to Mojo2 (Original post)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 10:45 PM

57. Start a travel-like ad encouraging them to come to..

....Taiwan. More in line with their thinking.

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Response to Mojo2 (Original post)

Sat Feb 9, 2013, 04:22 PM

60. Those RWers are so stupid it's unbelievable

 

They'll flee to Sweden? A country with generous social services, including socialized healthcare?

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Response to Mojo2 (Original post)

Sat Feb 9, 2013, 05:37 PM

61. first time out of America to live? incoming culture shock :P

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Response to Mojo2 (Original post)

Sun Feb 10, 2013, 04:30 AM

63. They're about 70 years too late.

Argentina would of welcomed them with open arms.

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