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Mon Feb 4, 2013, 02:50 AM

Karl Rove launches initiative to keep tea party candidates out of elections

The organizers of American Crossroads hope to bring electoral victory to the Republican Party by defeating unelectable tea party candidates in GOP primary races. The new super PAC, called the Conservative Victory Project, will be run by American Crossroads president Steven Law and is supported by former Bush political adviser Karl Rove.
“There is a broad concern about having blown a significant number of races because the wrong candidates were selected,” Law told the New York Times on Saturday. “We don’t view ourselves as being in the incumbent protection business, but we want to pick the most conservative candidate who can win.”

The Victory Project plans to oppose candidates like Christine O’Donnell, Todd Akin and Richard Mourdock. Though running in places where Republicans were favored, the tea party-backed candidates lost the general election after defeating moderate Republicans in the primary. Many tea party candidates who were victorious in 2010, such as Allen West and Joe Walsh, also ended up being defeated by Democratic challengers in 2012.
Victory Project spokesman Jonathan Collegio told CNN that Republicans lost six Senate races in the last two election cycles because they nominated “undisciplined candidates” rather than Republican veterans.

The group favors William F. Buckley’s dictum to nominate “the most conservative candidate in the primary who can win the general election,” over Ronald Reagan’s commandment, “Thou shalt not speak ill of any fellow Republican.”
Collegio insisted the Victory Project wanted to elect conservatives.
“But we have to win general elections,” he added.

Rep. Steve King (R-IA), who has a history of incendiary comments about immigrants, could be one of the organization’s first targets, according to Law. The ultra-conservative Republican indicated last month that he was seriously considering running for the U.S. Senate in 2014.
Conservative groups have blasted the new initiative, and were quick to note that moderate Republicans fared no better than tea party candidates in 2012.
“The Conservative Defeat Project is yet another example of the Republican establishment’s hostility toward its conservative base,” said Matt Hoskins of the Senate Conservatives Fund said. “Rather than listening to the grassroots and working to advance their principles, the establishment has chosen to declare war on its party’s most loyal supporters. If they keep this up, the Republican Party will remain in the wilderness for decades to come.”


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I really have a hard time distinguishing between the tea party and plain old conservatives any more. They're all crazy. Anything that causes a split within their party is fine by me!

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octoberlib Feb 2013 OP
Az_lefty Feb 2013 #1
graham4anything Feb 2013 #2
TroyD Feb 2013 #4
graham4anything Feb 2013 #5
GoCubsGo Feb 2013 #6
TroyD Feb 2013 #8
Sherman A1 Feb 2013 #3
Cosmocat Feb 2013 #7
Tagish_Charlie Feb 2013 #9
HooptieWagon Feb 2013 #10
AtomicKitten Feb 2013 #11
yellowcanine Feb 2013 #12

Response to octoberlib (Original post)

Mon Feb 4, 2013, 03:01 AM

1. Repugs have always said competion was good?

Guess not

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Response to octoberlib (Original post)

Mon Feb 4, 2013, 03:01 AM

2. Jeb's a coming. Jeb's a coming. Jeb's a coming.

 

and it will take a Clinton to defeat a Bush.

This is choreography to the hilt.

It is so damn obvious (and I have been saying this since W took the helicopter out).
People said I was nuts,crazy,loco,insane to think that a Bush could weasel his way back to the rpeublican nomination.

Well folks, Jeb's a coming and it won't be pretty.

no split, no disention, no protest votes.
Everybody is going to need to vote up and down the ballots, for ONLY Democratic candidates or in the rare instances where Democratic candidates can't win, for the person who will caucus with them that can win.

No matter, who the candiidate is, even if you have to hold your nose and vote for that person.

Because Jeb's a coming, and only YOU the voter, can defeat that from happening.

and dang if it isn't so easy for Jeb to get that nomination.

(and tougher yet will be if Jeb picks Christie.)

The one thing we can hope for in the Senate/house races though is the Nader effect.
Hope in those races, that there is a great democratic challenger for all states all races.
And then the democratic candidate in the reddest of districts will eke a victory out.

And the democratic party must take the governorships of Florida and Texas.

(BTW-did you see the polls lately? Hillary is near winning in 5 different red states including Texas.)

Me Democratics have a chance of a major landslide in 2014 and 2016 but there must be
no stay at home whine about who candidates are, and must vote for any/all regardless of this wedge or that wedge.

Total victory is near, however, without vigilance, it can all easily be blown and set back another few decades.


IMHO of course.

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Response to graham4anything (Reply #2)

Mon Feb 4, 2013, 06:12 AM

4. 'it will take a Clinton to defeat a Bush'

Why do people think another Bush could get elected? George W. Bush didn't even legitimately get elected in 2000, and the 2004 're-election' was as narrow as could be. Meanwhile, the demographics & electoral map have gotten worse for the Republicans since then. On top of that, W. has damaged the Bush name enormously.

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Response to TroyD (Reply #4)

Mon Feb 4, 2013, 07:15 AM

5. because he is going to convince the republicans he is a sane republican

 

just like W hoodwinked the public into thinking he was a cowboy, he was a compassionate conservative, he wanted to have BBQs with common people, he was stupid and being that he was stupid, he couldn't lie with a straight face.
People here all know all of those to be lies, yet people on the other side worship him.
Don't understand why, but democratic folks don't control the minds of the other side
(ah, if only we could LOL)

and Jeb is to the right of Chris Christie, and his family can win(except against a Clinton)

btw to me, win=seated, yes we know and/or can argue why he got seated (Nader,Scotus),but he was seated and Al and John weren't.

so it will be a wanna win vs. wanna message

IMHO of course.

but by 2016, people who would not vote for Bush, won't vote for him, and the others won't care if they want to win.

and Christie can't get nominated, but together they would be a formidable team.

(BTW, I don't see any path to 270 for any of them, but I do see Jeb being the nominee, and this being planned out for years.
In fact, the only thing I could think of to stop it would be if his wife didn't allow it, but since when does a Bush listen to their spouse anyhow?

BTW-as someone who witnessed in NJ the Corzine-Christie race, democratic advisors should NOT IN ANY WAY make fun of his weight. he used it to his advantage. There was what some thought a funny commercial of a cartoon escalator, and Christie gained something like 5 points after that due to a major backlash.

imho of course.

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Response to TroyD (Reply #4)

Mon Feb 4, 2013, 08:04 AM

6. Yep. The Bush name is tarnished beyond repair now.

Dumbya ruined it for Jebbie. Jeb may still be popular in Florida, but Florida is not the rest of the country. All the Democratic candidate has to do is remind people of what kind of shape in which his brother AND his father left this country. I am not sure that even his demonspawn, George P., stands a chance down the road at this point.

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Response to GoCubsGo (Reply #6)

Mon Feb 4, 2013, 08:45 AM

8. And right now Hillary is leading Jeb Bush & Rubio in Florida

So there's certainly a limit to his popularity there.

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Response to octoberlib (Original post)

Mon Feb 4, 2013, 05:26 AM

3. As they rearrange the deck chairs

this should be entertaining.

The end result is always a cause for concern, but for now I would just sit back and watch the show.

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Response to octoberlib (Original post)

Mon Feb 4, 2013, 08:11 AM

7. The only difference

I really have a hard time distinguishing between the tea party and plain old conservatives any more. They're all crazy. Anything that causes a split within their party is fine by me!

The only difference is that Tea Party types BELIEVE their BS.

The establishment types are flat tax payer raiders.

THAT is what the party is about, raiding the tax payer dollars.

Everything else is BS meant to pull in a disparate range of groups of people to get them the votes to have power.

The establishment types are OK with it, but don't really care about gay marriage, abortion, immigration, whatever.

The Tea Party types are the mean spirited people who actually believe in those things.

Thus, they don't have the capacity to moderate what they say about it.

The Rove types, the Ryan's, the Rubio's don't really care about these things, so they can speak to it more subtly.

The Kings of the world really care about the crape and are too passionate about it to care how they speak about it.

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Response to octoberlib (Original post)

Mon Feb 4, 2013, 11:42 AM

9. Considering the GOP is in disarray

 

it seems to me the Democratic/Progressive movement needs to exploit it for all it's worth, do everything possible to: 1. keep tealiban candidates off the ballot, stir the pot and exacerbate GOP confusion, lack of identity and do all they can to broaden the schism in the GOP and do everything possible to marginalize mainstream GOP candidates. The ball got started rolling with the 2012 election and that momentum needs to grow.

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Response to Tagish_Charlie (Reply #9)

Mon Feb 4, 2013, 02:39 PM

10. It helps the Dems if a Tealiban is on the ticket.

I think we should do everything possible to help the GOP run extremist candidates. And I'm not going to be too upset if Dems run a third-way/DLCer against them. However, safely blue Congressional Districts should always have Progressive candidates.

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Response to octoberlib (Original post)

Mon Feb 4, 2013, 03:10 PM

11. “May his pernicious soul rot half a grain a day!”

* Wm. Shakespeare

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Response to octoberlib (Original post)

Mon Feb 4, 2013, 03:30 PM

12. Looks as if Karl is trying to stay relevant after his infamous election night melt down.

And no one knows to this day where Karl got his "911 vote difference with 70% of the vote in" figure.

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