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Sat Apr 7, 2012, 06:01 PM

Post I saw on another forum: "Obama is more out of touch than Romney with the American people"...

...because his grandmother was a bank vice president, he went to a private school, his stepfather was an oil company executive, his mother had a Ph. D, and his father was a Harvard graduate.

Because of these things, this person concluded that Obama "grew up upper class" and also, that Romney "earned his own wealth" and is a "self-made man."

Yeah, I don't buy that.

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Reply Post I saw on another forum: "Obama is more out of touch than Romney with the American people"... (Original post)
YoungDemCA Apr 2012 OP
Cleita Apr 2012 #1
dimbear Apr 2012 #9
Cleita Apr 2012 #12
dimbear Apr 2012 #13
Cleita Apr 2012 #15
fire_guy266 Apr 2012 #17
Walk away Apr 2012 #2
whathehell Apr 2012 #3
Rosa Luxemburg Apr 2012 #4
alcibiades_mystery Apr 2012 #5
Surya Gayatri Apr 2012 #6
Iggo Apr 2012 #7
Ishoutandscream2 Apr 2012 #8
Drunken Irishman Apr 2012 #10
dsc Apr 2012 #14
Drunken Irishman Apr 2012 #16
JoePhilly Apr 2012 #11
fire_guy266 Apr 2012 #18
ProFact Apr 2012 #19
DCBob Apr 2012 #20
Tiggeroshii Apr 2012 #21
Marsala Apr 2012 #22

Response to YoungDemCA (Original post)

Sat Apr 7, 2012, 06:03 PM

1. Romney inherited his wealth. Enough said.

You can put up anything on the internet. It doesn't make it true.

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Response to Cleita (Reply #1)

Sat Apr 7, 2012, 08:32 PM

9. This is worth some expansion. Romney was granted an Ivy League education,

connections, and a famous name by his fortunate son birth. Most of his money, however, he took away from other people.

He calls it 'making it.' He made, IIRC, nothing. Hey, he's a high flyer, and all the really big flying birds are vultures.

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Response to dimbear (Reply #9)

Sat Apr 7, 2012, 09:34 PM

12. He just got richer through his vulture capitalism model, but he was already

born with a gold spoon in his mouth. A lot of today's multi-millionaires and billionaires took what was a fortune already and expanded it into Croesus-like riches because the environment to triple and quadruple fortunes was there for them to take advantage. I used to work with these people when I worked in the trust department of a bank. I asked one of our multi-millionaire clients how he did it. He told me making the first million was the hardest. After that the money seemed to come to him like a magnet. So Mittens didn't make it like Steve Jobs, who came from a working class background and who really did become a multi-millionaire through his own efforts in his lifetime. Mittens is far from that model.

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Response to Cleita (Reply #12)

Sat Apr 7, 2012, 09:42 PM

13. Agreed 100% except about whether that gold spoon was in his mouth or somewhere else.

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Response to dimbear (Reply #13)

Sat Apr 7, 2012, 10:08 PM

15. buwahahahah!

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Response to Cleita (Reply #12)

Sat Apr 7, 2012, 10:37 PM

17. It's good to be Mitt

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He will say whatever the party line is. He has selective memory when it comes to Romney Care. People don't understand how sleazy the leveraged buyout business is. Look at Bain Capital's involvement with the Dunkin Doughnuts IPO. A consortium of leveraged buyout companies bought Dunkin Brands from the family that founded it. They put the cost of borrowing the money to buy the company on the books of Dunkin Brands. When they brought it public, that cost was put on the books of Dunkin Brands. On top of that, they decided to pay themselves a 500 million dollar dividend. The common stock holders got nothing. I bought some shares of Dunkin Brands and got out of it when I realized it was a couple of billion in debt. Some of the companies, that Bain had purchased couldn't handle the debt and went under.

Nothing they did was illegal, but it's a sleazy business with rules that were made by people like Mitt in the top one percent. So you have people working very hard at the Dunkin Doughnut stores for low wages and you have people like Mitt. Bain moves wealthy clients money around in order to game the system. How much of the 500 million did the workers are Dunkin get? Nothing! Mitt is not exactly and entrepreneur. He would have started a company where they produce something that created lot's of jobs, but he decided to go for the easy money. There really should be more regulation of the leveraged buyout business.

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Response to YoungDemCA (Original post)

Sat Apr 7, 2012, 06:07 PM

2. What a Teabaggy take on reality.

At least it's more interesting than he's a radical black christian/secret muslim.

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Response to YoungDemCA (Original post)

Sat Apr 7, 2012, 06:18 PM

4. six pack Romney?

They will call him Joe

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Response to YoungDemCA (Original post)

Sat Apr 7, 2012, 06:28 PM

5. Oh gawd

Another one of these "I'm gonna just post what the extreme right wing is saying but hide behind it as indirect discourse" low post counters.

So. Fucking. Tedious.

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Response to YoungDemCA (Original post)

Sat Apr 7, 2012, 06:46 PM

6. If you "don't buy that", why the f**k

are you posting it here? Are we supposed "to buy" it better or what?

Just what do you want us to do with this pile of horsepucky from a RW site?

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Response to YoungDemCA (Original post)

Sat Apr 7, 2012, 07:06 PM

7. Well then don't go there anymore...

...because it's dumb, and if you keep going there, you'll be dumb, too!

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Response to YoungDemCA (Original post)

Sat Apr 7, 2012, 07:06 PM

8. Welcome to DU. Forget some of the rude replies

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Response to YoungDemCA (Original post)

Sat Apr 7, 2012, 08:48 PM

10. Okay...?

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Kind of interesting you feel the need to share without a stronger rebuke than 'I don't buy it'.

So, I'm skeptical.

But for what it's worth...

Obama's grandmother worked her way up from essentially nothing to the job she held. His grandfather was a salesman - not an oil company executive. Yes, his mother held a PhD, but it amounted to what in terms of income? She didn't die a rich woman. Obama didn't even really know his father.

I'd wager Obama's story is far more like most of America's than Romney. A grandfather who fought in WWII (Romney's didn't, his dad's dad, Gaskell Romney moved to Mexico with his family and only returned after the Mexican revolution. His mother's father, Harold Arundel LaFount, was born in England), a mother who scrimped and saved to get a head, a grandmother who worked her butt off, even during the war, and a father that was largely absent.

Those are the facts.

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Response to Drunken Irishman (Reply #10)

Sat Apr 7, 2012, 09:50 PM

14. having been born in England hardly precludes one from having fought in ww2

I would think it makes it a bit more likely.

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Response to dsc (Reply #14)

Sat Apr 7, 2012, 10:18 PM

16. He didn't serve at all...

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He didn't serve in WWII, though, he was quite a bit older by then.

Some people claim he was the Secretary of the Navy, but I don't believe that's true, since it places him in that position during Harding and Coolidge's presidencies. However, that appears to be Edwin Denby. So, not quite sure where that comes from? It's even quoted in this article that ran in an Alabama paper.

Here's Edwin Denby's profile.

So, who knows.

And the list of Secretaries of the Navy from the official Navy website.

No mention of him.

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Response to YoungDemCA (Original post)

Sat Apr 7, 2012, 09:31 PM

11. Mitt's also been out of work for the last 6 years ...

he's just like anyone of us.

If you ignore the foreign bank accounts, and his new house with the elevator for the cars.

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Response to JoePhilly (Reply #11)

Sat Apr 7, 2012, 10:40 PM

18. No he's not like us

We pay more in taxes.

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Response to YoungDemCA (Original post)

Sun Apr 8, 2012, 09:11 AM

19. The greatest fallacy of democracy is that everyone's opinion is worth the same.

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What Bi-partnership means to a Far-Right neoGOPer when they are in office is that you cooperate with them and do everything they say. But When the Democrats are in power it means that you are playing partisan politics unless you cooperate with them and do everything they say.

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Response to YoungDemCA (Original post)

Sun Apr 8, 2012, 09:28 AM

20. Any honest person knows this quote is complete and utter non-sense...

yet your response is just "yeah, I dont buy it". Odd.

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Response to YoungDemCA (Original post)

Sun Apr 8, 2012, 05:27 PM

21. haha what i love is how Romney is now the reference point for what "out of touch" is now.

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Its the only argument on their side: "yeah, he's out of touch -of course, but um not as much as um, Obama! Yep"

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Response to YoungDemCA (Original post)

Tue Apr 10, 2012, 04:10 PM

22. What's next, attacking Obama for being more Mormon than Romney? n/t

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