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Thu Jan 24, 2013, 09:51 AM

Dems in purple states with red state governments could force recall elections

Suppose they petition to recall the legislators and governors that are trying to change
the electoral system? Force them all to go through another election. Make a big stink about what they
are doing and how they are subverting the will of the people. A recall election will give a lot of publicity
to what they are doing and at least give the people the power to oppose it. Otherwise, we are looking
at a Constitutional amendment to stop this new scheme to steal elections, which will be almost impossible.

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Reply Dems in purple states with red state governments could force recall elections (Original post)
Nancy Waterman Jan 2013 OP
riqster Jan 2013 #1
No Vested Interest Jan 2013 #2
riqster Jan 2013 #3
Nancy Waterman Jan 2013 #4
riqster Jan 2013 #5
Nancy Waterman Jan 2013 #6
Nancy Waterman Jan 2013 #7
No Vested Interest Jan 2013 #8
John2 Jan 2013 #10
No Vested Interest Jan 2013 #12
SpartanDem Jan 2013 #9
cascadiance Jan 2013 #11
SpartanDem Jan 2013 #13

Response to Nancy Waterman (Original post)

Thu Jan 24, 2013, 09:58 AM

1. Depends on the state

It's not possible, for example, to recall a governor in Ohio, although it is in Wisconsin.

We Buckeyes are working to update the State Constitution to allow for recalls, but it's gonna take a while: especially since the people in charge of allowing ballot initiatives are all Reeps.

I hope everyone in a state with recall laws does as the OP suggests!

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Response to riqster (Reply #1)

Thu Jan 24, 2013, 11:00 AM

2. Recalls in Ohio?

I'd love to see the possibility of recalls in Ohio, but inasmuch as the redistricting proposal in Ohio did not pass in the 2012 election, I don't see recall making it any time soon, if we're depending on the voters to approve it. The redistricting proposal was not even close, to my great dismay.

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Response to No Vested Interest (Reply #2)

Thu Jan 24, 2013, 11:36 AM

3. Like I said, it won't be anytime soon

Something to work on. Other states that can do recalls don't always succeed, too. When you're living in a Reep- occupied territory, nothing about change is easy.

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Response to riqster (Reply #3)

Thu Jan 24, 2013, 11:39 AM

4. So what can be done about this latest right wing scam?

What other options are there?

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Response to Nancy Waterman (Reply #4)

Thu Jan 24, 2013, 11:43 AM

5. Every state is different

Ohio has it tougher than most, but your idea is worth pursuing. We just have to adapt to local conditions.

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Response to riqster (Reply #5)

Thu Jan 24, 2013, 11:45 AM

6. I also think we have to start moblizing NOW for 2014

we need to register everyone and try and vote out the GOP state legislatures and governorships where we can. The GOP has been really smart about this.

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Response to Nancy Waterman (Reply #6)

Thu Jan 24, 2013, 11:46 AM

7. It was the 2010 midterm that got us into so much trouble

Maybe that is where we need to start - the next midterm.

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Response to Nancy Waterman (Reply #7)

Thu Jan 24, 2013, 12:01 PM

8. Use OFA

Obama's organization, with its vast database and knowhow, has now been made available to the Democratic Party and should be fully utilized, starting now, to get out the vote in 2014.

I'll never understand why that data was not used in 2010, especially knowing that redistricting would be taking place following the 2010 census. Perhaps the Dems didn't recognize the severe threat of Reps/Tea Party at that time. In this case, too late smart.

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Response to No Vested Interest (Reply #2)

Thu Jan 24, 2013, 01:34 PM

10. How much power

 

does a Governor have in Ohio if that state was to elect a Democratic Governor in the State next Election? Would he or she have the power to call a referendum or iniative to change the State Constitution? And what about the same in other States like Pennsylvannia, Wisconsin, Michigan, Virginia or even North Carolina to reverse what those Republican Legislatures do by getting the majority of the people in those states to vote. Wouldn't that be the same as the marijuana Ballots in other states?

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Response to John2 (Reply #10)

Thu Jan 24, 2013, 03:22 PM

12. Ohio State Constitution

Not sure about power of an Ohio governor to call a constitutional convention, but doubtful.

Ohio voters also voted down in 2012 a call for a state constitutional convention. - It was a mandatory issue, as Ohio laws declares that such a state convention must be available every 10 yrs if the voters want it.

Ohio laws seem to be more stringent than others, perhaps because Ohio came in the Union earlier than those further west. I've noticed that the further East a state is, the fewer such powers are given to officials and populace, while the laws are more relaxed in that manner the further West the state is.

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Response to Nancy Waterman (Original post)

Thu Jan 24, 2013, 12:06 PM

9. You're not limited to recalls you also have ballot initiatives

Thankfully in Michigan we have both.

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Response to SpartanDem (Reply #9)

Thu Jan 24, 2013, 02:24 PM

11. Didn't Snyder and his buddies try to change the rules on recalls in December's lame duck session?

It sounds like they are putting in (or trying to put in) new laws that will make it harder for them to be recalled.

http://www.michigancapitolconfidential.com/18090

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Response to cascadiance (Reply #11)

Thu Jan 24, 2013, 10:44 PM

13. Yes they reduced the signature collection time period from 90 to 60 days

and you can't be recalled within last 6 months or first 6 of your term.

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