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denem

(11,045 posts)
Fri Apr 6, 2012, 02:17 PM Apr 2012

Digging deeper: Good News in the March unemployment numbers!

First of all, the fall in headline unemployment to 8.2 is real,
and not a result of discouraged workers leaving the labor market.

U4 - which includes discouraged workers fell from 8.9 to 8.7 percent

U6 - which includes underemployed workers, fell most of all, 14.9 to 14.5 percent.

So, employers are putting temporary and part time workers on full time,
which a the typical pattern in a recovery.

Put on temps when the situation begins to pick up,
then full time when the improvement looks sustainable.

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Digging deeper: Good News in the March unemployment numbers! (Original Post) denem Apr 2012 OP
What was the rate last month? 8.3 or 8.5? I can't remember. Arkana Apr 2012 #1
8.3 Jan, 8.3 Feb, denem Apr 2012 #3
They were commenting on the numbers on MSNBC aint_no_life_nowhere Apr 2012 #2
The Holiday Season makes retail the hardest to estimate. denem Apr 2012 #4
 

denem

(11,045 posts)
3. 8.3 Jan, 8.3 Feb,
Fri Apr 6, 2012, 02:47 PM
Apr 2012

After discouraged workers took up new jobs in these months, the rate is trending down again, and those jobs are becoming permanent.

aint_no_life_nowhere

(21,925 posts)
2. They were commenting on the numbers on MSNBC
Fri Apr 6, 2012, 02:45 PM
Apr 2012

First, all the new jobs came from the private sector and no new hiring is going on in the public sector. When both private and public start expanding together, the numbers will look better. Next, they mentioned something strange: retail sales are way up but retail hiring is very flat. If retail sales continue to improve, retail hiring increases are inevitable.

 

denem

(11,045 posts)
4. The Holiday Season makes retail the hardest to estimate.
Fri Apr 6, 2012, 02:55 PM
Apr 2012

All the headline numbers are seasonally adjusted, so it's difficult to know whats going on out there.

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