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Wed Jan 16, 2013, 05:25 PM

Dem bill would require independent commissions to redraw congressional districts


Dem bill would require independent commissions to redraw congressional districts

Rep. Steve Cohen (D-Tenn.) and six other House Democrats have put forward legislation that would prevent state-level politicians from redrawing congressional districts. Instead, they would have be redrawn after each nationwide Census by an independent commission.

Cohen said his bill would help prevent the partisan redistricting of states, which many Democrats and Republicans have said creates districts that favor one party or another and allows hyper-partisan candidates to get elected.

"It's time to take politics out of the redistricting process," Cohen said. "Congress is so polarized today that we're unable to find common ground on the major issues facing our country.

"Instead of solving our nation's problems, Congress is just kicking the can down the road and waiting until the next election for answers. I believe that if we eliminate the gerrymandering of districts we will help get more accomplished for our country."

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Full article here: http://thehill.com/blogs/floor-action/house/277607-dem-bill-would-require-independent-commissions-to-redraw-congressional-districts#ixzz2IBA4StKa




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Reply Dem bill would require independent commissions to redraw congressional districts (Original post)
Tx4obama Jan 2013 OP
doc03 Jan 2013 #1
indepat Jan 2013 #2
SouthernDonkey Jan 2013 #16
RussBLib Jan 2013 #3
sakabatou Jan 2013 #4
2naSalit Jan 2013 #5
Proud Liberal Dem Jan 2013 #6
SharonAnn Jan 2013 #13
Proud Liberal Dem Jan 2013 #17
annabanana Jan 2013 #7
Scuba Jan 2013 #8
lobodons Jan 2013 #11
Hekate Jan 2013 #9
UnrepentantLiberal Jan 2013 #10
garthranzz Jan 2013 #12
OswegoAtheist Jan 2013 #15
xxxsdesdexxx Jan 2013 #14

Response to Tx4obama (Original post)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 05:38 PM

1. We tried that in Ohio this year and it got voted down n/t

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Response to Tx4obama (Original post)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 05:44 PM

2. Rep. Cohen is a recipient of the effin' repigs' gerrymandering

malfeasance and nonsense: while his seat is still safe, all other seats will safely be in beastly repig hands.

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Response to indepat (Reply #2)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 02:01 AM

16. Whatever....

I like Steve Cohen! He stood up for the Air Traffic Controllers union, when Mica of Florida was trying to kick our ass over some labor legislation issues, and he is consistently re elected in his district by a majority black constituancy. Whom I think he represents quite well. Obviously they do too! Not too bad for a white guy. And the best thing, he's not a member of the Ford family!

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Response to Tx4obama (Original post)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 05:51 PM

3. This is long, long, long overdue

If it could pass, it could really go a long way to restoring some faith in government. The Republicans will never agree to it. It should be forced down their repressed throats.

IF

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Response to RussBLib (Reply #3)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 06:05 PM

4. Of course they wouldn't agree to it

Cheating or rigging the system seems to be their only choice.

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Response to Tx4obama (Original post)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 06:11 PM

5. We need to have that conversation too.

And eliminating the possibility of gerrymandering has to happen ASAP... before another election comes around.

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Response to Tx4obama (Original post)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 06:19 PM

6. Good idea

Should be the case in all 50 states IMHO, esp. if Republicans are going to try to "rig" certain states for Republicans.

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Response to Proud Liberal Dem (Reply #6)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 10:25 PM

13. It's already the case in Iowa. That's why there are actually

switches from R to D or vice versa from time to time. Districts are competitive.

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Response to SharonAnn (Reply #13)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 08:40 AM

17. Why political parties ever got to write their own maps never made much sense to me

Elections are *supposed* to be able to be competitive. State/congressional districts were never AFAIK meant to become, essentially, fiefdoms for one particular party or politician where they basically were so "protected" from being responsive to their citizens and that they could basically serve at their own pleasure for as long as they want (or until they die, whichever came first).

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Response to Tx4obama (Original post)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 06:23 PM

7. Damn pity that "good government" is derided in the beltway as

"googoo"

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Response to Tx4obama (Original post)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 06:55 PM

8. The over/under on how many Republicans will support this is zero.

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Response to Scuba (Reply #8)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 08:13 PM

11. I'll take the under

I'll take the under

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Response to Tx4obama (Original post)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 07:35 PM

9. This is long overdue, and so needed

Kicking

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Response to Tx4obama (Original post)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 07:50 PM

10. Democrats should have done this when they controlled the House.

 

Now it's just symbolic.

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Response to Tx4obama (Original post)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 08:13 PM

12. There's SCOTUS in the way

Even if the bill passes Congress, will it stand against SCOTUS?

Long overdue, though. Long overdue.

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Response to garthranzz (Reply #12)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 01:22 AM

15. IANA Constitutional scholar, but...

Article I, section 4: "The Times, Places and Manner of holding Elections for Senators and Representatives, shall be prescribed in each State by the Legislature thereof; but the Congress may at any time by Law make or alter such Regulations, except as to the Places of chusing Senators." Bolding mine, obviously. My layman's reading of it suggests that Congress can alter any districting laws in place within a state.

Oswego "my personal preference would be to get rid of districts altogether" Atheist

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Response to Tx4obama (Original post)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 11:41 PM

14. Deja Vu!

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I've been thinking about this for some time and when Rachel Maddow reminded me on her show last night I thought to myself why the hell can't we have nationwide redistricting done by independent commissions, similar to California, so that all congressional races are fair and so that everyone has a chance to win? The other thing that must be done, is for the electoral college to go bye bye. The president must be elected by popular vote. We really must do both of these things. If we continue to allow partisans to draw districts, and if we keep the electoral college, we will soon have a situation in which one presidential candidate could have more of the popular vote in 1 state than the other presidential candidate(s) and then lose that state due to that state's law in how they grant their electoral votes.

What can we do to stop this?

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