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Mon Jan 14, 2013, 07:50 PM

RNC Chair: Rig The Next Presidential Election For Republicans

A little over a year ago, Pennsylvania Gov. Tom Corbett (R) proposed rigging the presidential election for Mitt Romney by allocating electoral votes based upon which candidate carried each individual congressional district, rather than upon who wins the state as a whole. Thanks in large part to Republican gerrymandering, if Corbett’s election-rigging plan had been in effect last November in the Republican-controlled states of Florida, Michigan, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Virginia and Wisconsin, Romney would have won the Electoral College despite losing the popular vote by nearly four points.

In an interview with the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel, Republican National Committee Chairman Reince Priebus did not simply endorse this election-rigging scheme, he indicated that it should be targeted towards consistently Democratic states where it is most likely to skew the presidential election to the GOP’s benefit:

Republicans are in a unique position to make headway with such a plan nationally because Wisconsin and other key states that have gone to the Democratic presidential candidate in recent elections are currently controlled by Republicans at the state level. The change would give Republicans a chance to claim some of those states’ electoral votes.

“I think it’s something that a lot of states that have been consistently blue that are fully controlled red ought to be looking at,” Priebus said of the plan to change how electoral votes are granted.

Such a system “gives more local control” to the states, he argued.



http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2013/01/14/1443731/rnc-chair-rig-the-next-president-election-for-republicans/

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Response to Redfairen (Original post)

Mon Jan 14, 2013, 07:55 PM

1. If you can't overthrow the government through legitimate elections, you steal them.

The GOP stands for criminals.

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Response to Redfairen (Original post)

Mon Jan 14, 2013, 07:59 PM

2. I hope that

election reform is on the Presidents agenda sometime in the next four.

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Response to Redfairen (Original post)

Mon Jan 14, 2013, 08:00 PM

3. this already has been debunked, due to the faulty logic and fuzzy math involved and no constants.

 

There are not 100 electoral vote shift there

not to mention this assumes everything else remains constant

with different rules in place, different campaigns would happen

Mittens would have lost just as bad

(plus HIllary45 in 2016 will win places Obama did not win, and everything would shift, therefore it is impossible for the scenerio to happen.)

No matter which was they try it, they would lose, and will continue to lose.

BTW, if the above happened anyhow what makes repubs think that places like Texas wouldn't shift either?

plus what makes them think the courts would allow it?

They bet the world that Roberts would overturn the healthcare, and lost big time.

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Response to graham4anything (Reply #3)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 11:40 PM

9. Um, if you only changed blue states to non-winner take all but

kept red states as winner take all, I don't see how that would not favor republicans by a huge margin. The only way for Obama to counter that would have to campaign like hell in red states, and even then...

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Response to SWTORFanatic (Reply #9)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 03:01 AM

11. no, you wouldn't see it, I am not surprised.But the looking ahead 9 steps wins all the time.

 

and republicans only look at what's in front of their nose.

but if you don't see it, no matter how deep into it I would go, you wouldn't get it, so I will save my fingers to type on something else.

Needless to say, I am not worried about this, I am not worried about any theft, as I don't believe 2000 was lost due to theft, but due to something that will never again be relevant-
that being Ralph Nader being the vessel paid for and approved by the Bush's to keep the vote down with his naive lies about both parties being the same, ending with to the delicious irony of republicans and Bush family members all over, the Supreme Court decision to give it to Bush.
(Supreme Court being the most obvious of reasons that both parties are not the same).

And in 2016, different candidates, different methods

and maybe, in revenge, the democrats will make a new law saying anyone who owns a gun is a felon, therefore they can't vote.
There would go most likely the entire white male republican vote, leaving the republicantealibertairans with zero votes altogether.

Wouldn't that be funny!

republicans like Bush friend Lance Armstrong need to cheat.

democrats are the wide majority and when they are not distracted, win every time.

(matter of fact, except for a few bullets, a few sidetracks, and one helleva wedge issue in 1968, the democrats would have won the presidency every single election since FDR won.

The loses of AES, HHH, McGovern, Carter, Mondale, Dukakis, Gore and Kerry will never happen again.
Because though they all were nice guys and great people, all of them made bad political mistakes or the voters were stupid and became distracted and fractured, and well, it won't happen again.
Which is why without much fuss, Hillary will be Hillary45 with no major primary challenge.

And why no shenanigans in the world will change anything.

And if they get rid of the electoral vote, the popular vote will be won by democrats over the republicantealibertarians time and again.

Plotting to steal elections is so 2000.

By the time Hillary's second term is over, the courts will be 8 to 1 or perhaps 9 to 0,
with President Obama as chief justice.

and voters don't like cheaters on either side.
So sleight of hands in the social media world, don't work like the phony recount protest worked in 2000. Because if that happened today, it would instanly outed the protesters as being Tom DeLay staff agitators, and they would have been arrested and the recount continued.

Sad thing though was, there were few actual people in the streets in 2000 in Florida or DC.
I felt really lonely out there.
Sad thing too, but that shall never happen again, is the way President Clinton was shunned by Gore.
4 states would have easily been won by Gore had Bill been allowed to be Bill.

In retrospect, it is all so easy to see.

The public is not going to reelect another Bush in 2016, no matter he will get the nomination.
And no, Chris Christie will never win the nomination. Had the repubs wanted Chris Christie to be the nominee(even to take a dive), it would have been this time.
Won't happen

Just like any shenanigans won't change anything.

Because things aren't constant.

And the pool of voters they have grows smaller day to day.

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Response to graham4anything (Reply #11)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 03:03 AM

12. Not to be snarky, but really all that yet you couldn't explain the electoral math? :)

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Response to SWTORFanatic (Reply #12)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 03:18 AM

13. why bother. You wouldn't get it. You think everything is a still constant. Life isn't like that.

 

Willie Nelson sang it best
Still is still moving to me.

still is not constant

It's simple raw number statistics.

And I have been doing them longer than Nate Silver has been alive.

And 2012 is history.
And Plouffe and Axelrod are already way into 2024 and 2028, being that Hillary45 has already won 2016 and 2020.
Take it to the bank.

BTW-by that time Texas will be deep, deep blue as will Florida and seven other red states.

Remember something else-
republicans changed the constitution to make presidents only be able to serve 2 terms.
And guess who's presidents could have won a 3rd term?
you may or may not have guessed, but that would have been Eisenhower and Reagan.

Everytime they game the system they lose.

they did not win 2000.
The dems who believed Ralph Nader lost us the election.
Not the repubs, not the courts, but Ralph Nader and the 3rd party ites.

But you see, 2000 will never happen again.
Never again will 3rd parties divide the democrats (though we hope they will divide the repubs).

And you may not know, but the red states went for LBJ in 1964 and Carter in 1980.

Only self-fracturing cost all the elections the dems lost from AES to Kerry.

It won't happen again.
Because democrats now margionalize 3rd parties and fractures remembering
WINNING IS THE ONLY THING

imho

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Response to Redfairen (Original post)

Mon Jan 14, 2013, 09:05 PM

4. I didn't know acres could vote ...

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Response to Redfairen (Original post)

Mon Jan 14, 2013, 09:06 PM

5. Republicans will attempt to gerrymander the presidential election just as they have stolen the House



through gerrymandering.

This is a big, big issue that will not go away if we close our eyes.

We must engage in an ongoing battle in every one of these states.













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Response to Redfairen (Original post)

Mon Jan 14, 2013, 09:37 PM

6. .

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Response to Redfairen (Original post)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 10:05 PM

7. LMFAO republicons never give up.

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Response to Redfairen (Original post)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 10:24 PM

8. I guess Republicans have never heard about "ticket-splitting" have they?

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Response to Redfairen (Original post)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 02:00 AM

10. Nice of them to announce all their underhanded, secret plans in the news, isn't it?

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