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Wed Apr 4, 2012, 08:24 AM

Lets be clear: President Obama is the only guy standing between us and Paul Ryan's insanity.

Last edited Wed Apr 4, 2012, 04:16 PM - Edit history (10)

Drunken Irishman posted "Obama stands between us an complete insanity". I agree. Ryan's economic prescriptions are insane. From the day Romney embraced Ryan's 'marvelous' future, Mitt and Ryan are BFF. At every campaign stop Ryan proudly escorts around his New Hope.

This is not conjecture. I am not exaggerating. These are facts ... (over tome) the federal budget would basically amount to whatever is left in entitlements, defense spending, and interest on the national debt. Period." Obama.

Over time, every safety net, every ladder up would be gutted.

If the Democrats stop this in the Senate, the Federal Government would face a shut down. This is not a fight you can win with a newly elected President. The chips are gone.

Yes Mitt will go with the tide. There is not one ounce of doubt.

One of my potential opponents, Governor Romney, has said that he hoped a similar version of this plan from last year would be introduced as a bill on day one of his presidency. He said that he's 'very supportive' of this new budget, and he even called it 'marvelous' which is a word you don't often hear when it comes to describing a budget. It's a word you don't often hear generally. So here's what this 'marvelous' budget does ...
http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-pn-obama-speech-transcript-20120403,0,7053881.story

Them's the stakes. Whatever ideology you may find comfortable, if this isn't a line in the sand, nothing is.

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Reply Lets be clear: President Obama is the only guy standing between us and Paul Ryan's insanity. (Original post)
denem Apr 2012 OP
mucifer Apr 2012 #1
shraby Apr 2012 #2
gordianot Apr 2012 #3
zipplewrath Apr 2012 #4
denem Apr 2012 #5
zipplewrath Apr 2012 #8
denem Apr 2012 #12
just1voice Apr 2012 #6
denem Apr 2012 #10
zbdent Apr 2012 #7
Myrina Apr 2012 #9
denem Apr 2012 #11
Myrina Apr 2012 #13
Stan Smith Apr 2012 #14
Tarheel_Dem Apr 2012 #15

Response to denem (Original post)

Wed Apr 4, 2012, 08:33 AM

1. The problem will be in the compromise. They went crazy to the right

because our side will have to compromise. I feel that the crazier they are the more they get.

I will be voting. It's just that it's so disappointing.

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Response to denem (Original post)

Wed Apr 4, 2012, 08:56 AM

2. He's also our seawall against an extreme right wing supreme court in the case of

one or two of the more liberal members stepping down in the next four years. That alone is enough to get me to the ballot box in November to vote for Obama.

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Response to denem (Original post)

Wed Apr 4, 2012, 09:03 AM

3. I come from a generation raised on fear of Communism.

Vietnam nonsense made me skeptical especially the movie of Ho Chi Min waving American flags following World War II. The Republican Party nonsense just makes me angry, domestic enemies are far more dangerous than foreign enemies with nuclear weapons.

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Response to denem (Original post)

Wed Apr 4, 2012, 09:19 AM

4. Well, that, and a senate

Not to mention a House. Remember, "the president doesn't have a magic wand". It's congress that makes all of this happen. Clinton signed DOMA and DADT, not to mention NAFTA and the Welfare Reform Act, as well as the repeal of Glass-Stegal.

A democratic congress is really what will stand in the way. Even with one we got mandates and no public option. Even with one, Gitmo is till open and running on a principal of indefinite detentions. Even with one the Bush tax cuts are still in place, 4 years later. Keeping Obama in there makes it harder. Keeping a GOP house makes it more likely.

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Response to zipplewrath (Reply #4)

Wed Apr 4, 2012, 09:21 AM

5. Oh man. "Keeping Obama in there makes it harder"

WTF?

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Response to denem (Reply #5)

Wed Apr 4, 2012, 09:26 AM

8. To pass GOP crap

He can't stop it all, which is why the tax cuts for the rich are still there, but stopping Ryan's crap is a whole lot easier if he is in the minority party in congress.

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Response to zipplewrath (Reply #8)

Wed Apr 4, 2012, 02:53 PM

12. Got it.

Thanks.

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Response to denem (Original post)

Wed Apr 4, 2012, 09:24 AM

6. You suggest voting or die, LOL

 

"I don't care what ideology you find comfortable. If you're are not willing to oppose this at the ballot box, choose a pine box of yourself and your nearest."

You sound like the Home Depot CEO that said people who don't vote for pukes "should be shot".

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Response to just1voice (Reply #6)

Wed Apr 4, 2012, 02:29 PM

10. 19 million will be thrown off Medicaid, nursing home funding cut out,

Medicare turned into vouchers, you bet it's life threatening. I have edited the post.

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Response to denem (Original post)

Wed Apr 4, 2012, 09:26 AM

7. Come now, you're forgetting the massive numbers of liberal Democrats in the ... um ...

uh ... never mind ...

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Response to denem (Original post)

Wed Apr 4, 2012, 02:04 PM

9. Ryan Paul's insanity?

Who is Ryan Paul and why do we care if he's insane?
Or are you referring to PAUL RYAN?

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Response to Myrina (Reply #9)

Wed Apr 4, 2012, 02:45 PM

11. Oops!

Fixed. Rand Paul Paul Ryan Ron Paul are the same person

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Response to denem (Reply #11)

Wed Apr 4, 2012, 03:33 PM

13. I hear ya - after awhile all the cornflakes look the same.

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Response to denem (Original post)

Wed Apr 4, 2012, 09:39 PM

14. The good news is Ryan's budget doesn't have a chance in hell.

And in January if he is still in congress he will be in the minority party, and won't get to dream up any more budgets.

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Response to denem (Original post)

Wed Apr 4, 2012, 09:42 PM

15. Agreed!

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