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Sun Jan 6, 2013, 10:36 AM

Obama Mulls Far Broader Gun Control

Follow the $$, impact the bottom line, results should follow. IMO.

http://politicalwire.com/archives/2013/01/06/obama_mulls_far_broader_gun_control.html


January 06, 2013

Obama Mulls Far Broader Gun Control


The White House "is weighing a far broader and more comprehensive approach to curbing the nation's gun violence than simply reinstating an expired ban on assault weapons and high-capacity ammunition," the Washington Post reports.

The measures "would require universal background checks for firearm buyers, track the movement and sale of weapons through a national database, strengthen mental health checks, and stiffen penalties for carrying guns near schools or giving them to minors."

Key point: "To sell such changes, the White House is developing strategies to work around the National Rifle Association that one source said could include rallying support from Wal-Mart and other gun retailers for measures that would benefit their businesses."

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Reply Obama Mulls Far Broader Gun Control (Original post)
babylonsister Jan 2013 OP
NYC_SKP Jan 2013 #1
Loudly Jan 2013 #2
ProgressiveProfessor Jan 2013 #14
MannyGoldstein Jan 2013 #3
MjolnirTime Jan 2013 #8
MannyGoldstein Jan 2013 #11
MjolnirTime Jan 2013 #16
MannyGoldstein Jan 2013 #17
MjolnirTime Jan 2013 #18
MannyGoldstein Jan 2013 #20
samsingh Jan 2013 #4
Gidney N Cloyd Jan 2013 #5
Comatose Sphagetti Jan 2013 #6
hack89 Jan 2013 #7
Comatose Sphagetti Jan 2013 #9
hack89 Jan 2013 #10
otohara Jan 2013 #15
ProgressiveProfessor Jan 2013 #12
dickthegrouch Jan 2013 #13
JohnnyBoots Jan 2013 #19
hack89 Jan 2013 #21
babylonsister Jan 2013 #22
hack89 Jan 2013 #23

Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Sun Jan 6, 2013, 10:45 AM

1. He's so smart, he knows enough not to try ideas doomed to fail.

And he doesn't appeal to the extremists at either end of the spectrum.

He's looking for reasonable solutions that have a chance of success in passing and in actually reducing violence over time.

K/R

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Sun Jan 6, 2013, 10:47 AM

2. Don't forget shutting down the manufacture and sale of new product.

 

If you don't turn off the spigot, proliferation and misuse just worsens.

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Response to Loudly (Reply #2)

Sun Jan 6, 2013, 11:55 AM

14. I feel the same way about zombies

How do we stop them here?

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Sun Jan 6, 2013, 10:49 AM

3. That will happen

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Reply #3)

Sun Jan 6, 2013, 11:28 AM

8. Your ability for prophecy has proven to be non-existent.

 

Let us know when Obama cuts Social Security, ok?

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Response to MjolnirTime (Reply #8)

Sun Jan 6, 2013, 11:51 AM

11. Link or slink.

Point to one of my posts and let's see what you got.

Or apologize.

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Reply #11)

Sun Jan 6, 2013, 12:53 PM

16. Do you really need me to prove that you are one of the most virulent Anti-Obama posters here?

 

I think you know yourself better than that.

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Response to MjolnirTime (Reply #16)

Sun Jan 6, 2013, 12:59 PM

17. Nice. Switching claims.

I think we safely assume that's an admission that your first claim was false.

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Reply #17)

Wed Jan 23, 2013, 09:46 PM

18. My claim that you have no idea what you're talking about stands.

 

You have been an Obama detractor from before he was elected
and you will likely be so until he finishes this term.

Do you really the your attempts at obfuscation can hide this?

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Response to MjolnirTime (Reply #18)

Wed Jan 23, 2013, 09:55 PM

20. Wrong.

I was an Obama supporter in the 2008 primaries, the election, did a spit-take when he appointed Rahm and Summers, then knew the fix was in when he started talking about the need to cut Social Security a week or so before his first inauguration.

Look it up.

I expect an apology.

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Sun Jan 6, 2013, 10:54 AM

4. encouraging

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Sun Jan 6, 2013, 11:19 AM

5. I read this as these "broader" measures are in addition to and not instead of...

...such things as banning hi-capacity/rapid fire guns.

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Sun Jan 6, 2013, 11:19 AM

6. Hand-fed, single shot firearms only.

No clips, magazines, cylinders, drums, etc. Six months to turn anything else in. You're paid $500 for each banned weapon. Get caught it's an automatic five years.

Flame on.

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Response to Comatose Sphagetti (Reply #6)

Sun Jan 6, 2013, 11:24 AM

7. We don't flame fantasies. nt

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Response to hack89 (Reply #7)

Sun Jan 6, 2013, 11:43 AM

9. "We?"

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Response to Comatose Sphagetti (Reply #9)

Sun Jan 6, 2013, 11:46 AM

10. I have a mouse in my pocket. nt

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Response to Comatose Sphagetti (Reply #6)

Sun Jan 6, 2013, 12:19 PM

15. Sounds Heavenly

no flame here.

Even though I have no idea what drums are in relation to guns.
But then I thought magazines were something people read in the doctors office.

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Sun Jan 6, 2013, 11:54 AM

13. Make the manufacturers responsible for the checks on first sales

There's no reason we gun haters have to spend our taxes on the personal choices of people with guns or wanting them.

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Wed Jan 23, 2013, 09:52 PM

19. What is 'High Capacity Ammunition?' NT

 

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Wed Jan 23, 2013, 10:21 PM

21. He better find a way to work around Senate Democrats.

they are the real obstacle. Harry Reid is an NRA supporter and there are at least 10 Democratic Senators from conservative, pro-gun states seeking reelection in 2014.

Gun control will die in the Senate.

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Response to hack89 (Reply #21)

Wed Jan 23, 2013, 10:24 PM

22. Maybe not. Aren't we ALL sick of hearing about gun deaths?

Logical measures will not be opposed, at least by normal thinking people. But then there's that...

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Response to babylonsister (Reply #22)

Thu Jan 24, 2013, 06:33 AM

23. The Dems have already admitted that there will not be an AWB

This was the story a week after your article.

Washington (CNN) -- Unlike most issues these days that divide along party lines, the immediate fate of President Obama's new gun proposals will depend not as much on Republicans as his fellow Democrats in the Senate.

Senate Democratic leadership sources tell CNN that passing any new legislation will be extremely difficult because more than a dozen vulnerable Democrats from conservative states will probably resist much of what the president is pushing.

These Democratic sources say the most likely legislation to pass will be strengthening background checks, since it is the least overt form of gun control and it also appeals to gun rights advocates' emphasis on keeping guns away from people with mental health and criminal problems.

Democratic leadership sources say they intend to spend next week -- the first week the Senate is in session -- canvassing red-state Democrats to see what, if anything, is doable. Democratic senators who advocate various gun control measures will be lobbying their colleagues as well.


http://www.cnn.com/2013/01/16/politics/senate-democrats-gun-legislation/index.html

Some laws will be passed but no AWB.

btw - I support the President's EOs plus universal background checks and a limit on magazine size.

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