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Thu Jan 3, 2013, 03:26 PM

Ed Rendell, now of 'Fix The Debt,' hawking raising the Medicare eligibility age--with 'carve outs'

Bear in mind, raising the age for Medicare does nothing to control the cost of healthcare--it just shifts the burden.

The Cycle is giving him a platform today to sell the 'Fix the Debt' agenda. Rendell focuses on raising the Medicare eligibility age--rather than reducing the exorbitant costs in our healthcare system. Steve Kornacki is not buying it. S.E. Cupp loves it! Toure is silent--for some reason, altho he does not look happy about the discussion.

'Fix the Debt' is one of Peter G. Peterson foundation creations. Pete Peterson was the founder of the private equity firm, the Blackstone Group.

http://www.fixthedebt.org/who-we-are

Must read from Dave Weigel:

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/jurisprudence/2012/12/why_has_pete_peterson_s_expensive_campaign_against_the_deficit_failed_after.single.html

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Reply Ed Rendell, now of 'Fix The Debt,' hawking raising the Medicare eligibility age--with 'carve outs' (Original post)
flpoljunkie Jan 2013 OP
samsingh Jan 2013 #1
Guy Whitey Corngood Jan 2013 #2
BeyondGeography Jan 2013 #3
SugarShack Jan 2013 #4
flpoljunkie Jan 2013 #7
jenmito Jan 2013 #5
flpoljunkie Jan 2013 #6
jenmito Jan 2013 #9
Cosmocat Jan 2013 #10
jenmito Jan 2013 #11
flpoljunkie Jan 2013 #12
jenmito Jan 2013 #15
flpoljunkie Jan 2013 #18
jenmito Jan 2013 #19
flpoljunkie Jan 2013 #20
jenmito Jan 2013 #21
flpoljunkie Jan 2013 #22
DonCoquixote Jan 2013 #8
flpoljunkie Jan 2013 #13
forestpath Jan 2013 #14
LiberalFighter Jan 2013 #16
Proud Liberal Dem Jan 2013 #17
DebJ Jan 2013 #23
flpoljunkie Jan 2013 #24

Response to flpoljunkie (Original post)

Thu Jan 3, 2013, 03:27 PM

1. kick

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Response to flpoljunkie (Original post)

Thu Jan 3, 2013, 03:29 PM

2. I think we should cut every Republican's pension and throw this dickhead's in there too for good

measure. that would help with our debt problems.

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Response to flpoljunkie (Original post)

Thu Jan 3, 2013, 03:37 PM

3. Gubmint's been good to Eddie, though

So easy to throw others under the bus when you've got a good seat.

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Response to flpoljunkie (Original post)

Thu Jan 3, 2013, 03:40 PM

4. This needs to get loud!!! Rendall is a shill for the corporations.

 

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Response to SugarShack (Reply #4)

Thu Jan 3, 2013, 03:42 PM

7. Did you recommend this post?

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Response to flpoljunkie (Original post)

Thu Jan 3, 2013, 03:40 PM

5. Steve Kornaki was giving him a hard time. Toure' and Krystal didn't seem to be buying it, either.

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Response to jenmito (Reply #5)

Thu Jan 3, 2013, 03:42 PM

6. I missed any Toure comments, but loved his expression!

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Response to flpoljunkie (Reply #6)

Thu Jan 3, 2013, 03:53 PM

9. Maybe it was just his expressions, but I think he made some comments, too. n/t

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Response to jenmito (Reply #5)

Thu Jan 3, 2013, 04:56 PM

10. Third way bullshit

and you have to give them credit for going at him, he is a fairly imposing person and he was trying to control the discussoin.

He was OK as our governor, but he absolutely is all in on this third way type of crape right now for some reason.

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Response to Cosmocat (Reply #10)

Thu Jan 3, 2013, 06:03 PM

11. I know. That's why I hate that he's on MSNBC every day. n/t

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Response to jenmito (Reply #11)

Thu Jan 3, 2013, 07:15 PM

12. Did you notice if Rendell disclosed he is a co-chair of 'Fix the Debt?'

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Response to flpoljunkie (Reply #12)

Thu Jan 3, 2013, 08:18 PM

15. I know he mentioned it before-that's how I knew about it-but I don't remember if he disclosed it

today.

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Response to jenmito (Reply #15)

Fri Jan 4, 2013, 02:33 PM

18. Video indicates Rendell didn't disclose he's Fix-the-Debt co-chair; he was not identified as such.

I have a feeling Steve Kornacki will see that he discloses Rendell as a co-chair of Pete Peterson's Fix the Debt and he will be identified as such on the screen, as well.

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Response to flpoljunkie (Reply #18)

Fri Jan 4, 2013, 08:38 PM

19. He was on MSNBC again TODAY and he didn't disclose it. He DID mention that he was on

The Cycle yesterday and mentioned that the Medicare age should be raised and the three progressives acted as if he just said something terrible (I forget his exact words). I think it was Hardball tonight with guest host Smerconish.

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Response to jenmito (Reply #19)

Fri Jan 4, 2013, 08:54 PM

20. I saw that! Rendell said the three progressives acted as if what he said was 'treasonous!'

'Treasonous'! Really, Ed? What a jerk he is!

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Response to flpoljunkie (Reply #20)

Fri Jan 4, 2013, 09:36 PM

21. Thanks! Yup-that was the word. At least I remembered that it started with a "t"!

I HATE that he's on every single day spouting that BS!

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Response to jenmito (Reply #21)

Sat Jan 5, 2013, 09:44 AM

22. Had to think a bit before the word came back to me, as well.

Rendell, the shill, was obviously feeling very defensive to use the word 'treasonous.' MSNBC is derelict not to identify Rendell as a Co-Chair for the former Blackstone private equity fund founder Pete Peterson's 'Fix the Debt'--particularly with the debt ceiling showdown rapidly approaching.

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Response to flpoljunkie (Original post)

Thu Jan 3, 2013, 03:53 PM

8. hey

the next time someone says "why didn't ya vote for Hillary in 2008?", we can say that this was the sort that she surrounded herself with.

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Response to flpoljunkie (Original post)

Thu Jan 3, 2013, 07:38 PM

13. Here's a link to the video. Medicare discussion begins about 6:15 into the segment.

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Response to flpoljunkie (Original post)

Thu Jan 3, 2013, 08:15 PM

14. He always comes across as a sleazy used car salesman to me.

 

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Response to flpoljunkie (Original post)

Thu Jan 3, 2013, 08:28 PM

16. I would support the proposal provided

all those geezers that love it be required to work until they are 85 and not be eligible for Medicare until then either.

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Response to flpoljunkie (Original post)

Fri Jan 4, 2013, 09:24 AM

17. Do the people supporting raise in age eligibility

Have any suggestions for what older people are supposed to do in terms of income/healthcare while they wait longer to be able to start collecting the benefits they have been paying into for most of their working lives? It seems to me like they are basically declaring that people should be busting their butts until they're nearly 70, which is neither particularly healthy much less realistic. Do they some plan for ensuring a livable wage, healthcare and a comfy non-manual labor job while they're waiting (though if they did that, why not just go ahead and give them their benefits)? Any discussion of raising eligibility age needs to include these kind of concerns. Otherwise they are nothing but farce IMHO.

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Response to flpoljunkie (Original post)

Sat Jan 5, 2013, 10:06 AM

23. Raising the medicare age would literally kill my husband if it were to be immediately implemented..

At age 62 and 9 months, as of yesterday, he was forced to retire due to mounting health issues.
Our health insurance for the next 18 months will take 30% of his pension + social security payments.
We will just be scraping by....we hope we can scrape by.....

When Cobra expires in 18 months, it will go even higher....so likely, I will have to forgo having any
health insurance for almost a full year until he reaches Medicare age, unless I can myself get a job...
IF his health issues will allow me to work, IF anyone will hire someone approaching 60 with her own
health issues (that make many jobs almost impossible except for short spans). But he HAS to keep
medical insurance, even if we lose all else. Kidney disease (just short of dialysis), diabetes, wounds
not healing, blood pressure, etc....

If the Medicare age is raised even just another year or two, we would be almost guaranteed to be
homeless. We are praying we will make it as it is....

Although I doubt they would raise the age on people that are 62 already what would raising the age
do to my sisters? Two of them have genetic issues that are slowly crippling them; even working full-time
now while they can, the medical bills are crushing them. When they can no longer work, I guess they
are just supposed to shut up and die after having paid into the system for 40 years. SO WE CAN AFFORD
MORE FRIGGIN NAVY BOATS AND BOMBS.

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Response to DebJ (Reply #23)

Sat Jan 5, 2013, 10:50 AM

24. What a rotten shame! Cobra is so expensive--but probably less than catastrophic coverage--if it's

available in your state. If not, perhaps Obamacare will provide more affordable health care insurance when it goes into effect in 2014.

It is outrageous that this country fails to provide healthcare to its citizens--and even more so for those who have worked hard their entire lives and are unable to continue working--and not yet eligible for Medicare. And, now the Republican sons of bitches want to raise the Medicare eligibility age. I do not think President Obama will agree. It does not save healthcare costs, it just shifts them to the people.

I am so sorry you are in such an untenable position.

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