Wed Jan 2, 2013, 12:17 PM
n2doc (43,041 posts)
Biden May Be the Most Influential Vice President Ever
By Michael Hirsh
Barack Obama just canít get enough out of Joe Biden these days. And anybody whoís been following Bidenís steady ascent in stature over the last several years -- from gaffe-happy presidential contender to one of the most powerful vice presidents in U.S. history -- couldnít be less surprised.
Perhaps the only surprise at all is that, in contrast to a year ago, it took Biden quite this long to become the presidentís point man on the latest round of fiscal talks. The exact reason for the delay is not clear. Perhaps it is that, only a week and a half ago, Obama had called on his vice president to lead a commission to expedite recommendations on a truly serious national issue, gun violence (as opposed to the present trumped-up issue, fiscal reform, which requires only the smidgen of political courage necessary to depart from ideological rigidities). Maybe Obama wanted to keep his veepís powder dry for that.
Or maybe it is just that, in the awkward pattern of political dance partnerships that have emerged over the last couple of years, whenever Obama and Speaker John Boehner fail to execute Ė as they did after the ďPlan BĒ debacle -- itís Biden and his old Senate colleague, Mitch McConnell, who step into the spotlight. The Biden-McConnell duo didnít cut it during last yearís cliffhanger over the debt limit, of course. But in a sign of just how important a figure the vice president has become in Washington, Bidenís absence until now has been one reason that Republicans doubted Obamaís seriousness about cutting a deal, my colleague Chris Frates reported last week.
As the inevitable brinkmanship plays out, itís useful to step back and look at just how central a role Biden has played throughout Obamaís presidency.
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Response to hlthe2b (Reply #1)
Wed Jan 2, 2013, 12:49 PM
bongbong (5,436 posts)
7. Deadeye Dick
Cheney doesn't qualify for most influential vice-president, since he wasn't a vice-president. For eight long years he was acting president.
The guy that most people thought was president spent most of his days in a drunken haze, occasionally showing his face to make a Cheney-approved speech or deliver gaffes.
Response to bongbong (Reply #7)
Wed Jan 2, 2013, 02:12 PM
TwilightGardener (46,416 posts)
10. True. Cheney's the only vice president who actually chose himself to be vice president, after
pretending to vet VP candidates for GWB. Georgie had nothing to do with it. Uncle Dick told him how it was going to be.
Response to n2doc (Original post)
Wed Jan 2, 2013, 12:21 PM
unblock (27,597 posts)
3. no way.
both gore and cheney were more influential.
cheney for evil and behind-the-scenes, with perhaps the exception of shrub's last couple of years.
gore for good and across a wide range of issues, most notably getting every department in the federal government to put extensive information on web pages, which had a huge role in bringing about the internet as we know it (lost in the lie about him using the word "invent" was the undeniable fact that he did quite a lot to advance the internet in many ways).
Response to n2doc (Original post)
Wed Jan 2, 2013, 02:08 PM
Jeff In Milwaukee (13,992 posts)
8. I'm not sure if he's the "most influential" Vice President ever...
But he's hands-down the coolest dude to ever hold the office
I loves me some Joe Biden!