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Mon Dec 31, 2012, 02:45 PM

Hoping the House Republicans save us all from this "deal"

We need to go over the cliff.

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Reply Hoping the House Republicans save us all from this "deal" (Original post)
budkin Dec 2012 OP
Dawgs Dec 2012 #1
Chan790 Dec 2012 #2
phleshdef Dec 2012 #4
Liberal_Stalwart71 Dec 2012 #10
NYC Liberal Dec 2012 #13
cliffordu Dec 2012 #3
democrattotheend Dec 2012 #5
octoberlib Dec 2012 #6
WI_DEM Dec 2012 #7
Redfairen Dec 2012 #8
ProudProgressiveNow Dec 2012 #9
NYC Liberal Dec 2012 #11
boingboinh Dec 2012 #12

Response to budkin (Original post)

Mon Dec 31, 2012, 02:48 PM

1. Yep. n/t

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Response to budkin (Original post)

Mon Dec 31, 2012, 02:57 PM

2. On behalf of the 2M individuals and families on extended UI and the 1M more whose benefits expire...

during the first quarter of 2013:

You're no friend of the middle-class or the 99% or the working-class or anybody but your broad perception of your narrow self-interest. I hope this deal goes through because I care about people more than political-wins...and you clearly do not.

Any bad deal can be fixed later...starvation, misery, poverty and homelessness are harder to fix.

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Response to Chan790 (Reply #2)

Mon Dec 31, 2012, 03:03 PM

4. These people don't actually care about the math. Irrelevant symbolism is what guides their support.

Lets take the whole chained CPI discussion for example. While I strongly oppose changing social security over the chained CPI, I have to laugh at others who oppose it but also are fully in support of going over the fiscal cliff and doing nothing to change any of it. While chained CPI is a horrible idea, the amount of money taken out of middle class and poor working class people's pockets will be MUCH, MUCH higher if we go over the cliff.

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Response to Chan790 (Reply #2)

Mon Dec 31, 2012, 09:38 PM

10. Thank you!!

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Response to Chan790 (Reply #2)

Mon Dec 31, 2012, 09:43 PM

13. Amen.

Some people it seems would rather cheer for their team and score points than actually consider what is at stake for millions of people living in the real world.

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Response to budkin (Original post)

Mon Dec 31, 2012, 02:57 PM

3. Why do you think it is better to go over the cliff??

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Response to budkin (Original post)

Mon Dec 31, 2012, 04:09 PM

5. Why? It seems like a pretty good deal

Unemployment insurance, doc fix, AMT relief, and they kept the top rate and increases on capital gains and dividends, and no SS cuts, at least for now. All we sacrifice is the floor being $450,000 instead of $250,000. Seems worth it compared to cutting people off UI and driving doctors out of Medicare by drastically cutting rates.

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Response to budkin (Original post)

Mon Dec 31, 2012, 04:12 PM

6. CNBC just announced on Twitter that no deal will be reached tonight

CNBC ‏@CNBC
BREAKING: CNBC's @JohnJHarwood: No vote in the House tonight, sources say.

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Response to octoberlib (Reply #6)

Mon Dec 31, 2012, 04:16 PM

7. The House is useless and Boner has no credibility and is the weakest speaker

in memory.

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Response to budkin (Original post)

Mon Dec 31, 2012, 07:34 PM

8. Looks like your wish will come true. *

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Response to budkin (Original post)

Mon Dec 31, 2012, 09:34 PM

9. K&R nt

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Response to budkin (Original post)

Mon Dec 31, 2012, 09:42 PM

11. So who cares about the poor and unemployed, right?

Anyone who gleefully proclaims "LET'S GO OVER TEH CLIFF!!1" does not.

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Response to budkin (Original post)

Mon Dec 31, 2012, 09:43 PM

12. Crossing My Fingers!!

 

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