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Sun Dec 30, 2012, 03:20 PM

New popular vote totals have the president with just under a 5 million vote win.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/lv?key=0AjYj9mXElO_QdHpla01oWE1jOFZRbnhJZkZpVFNKeVE&f=true&noheader=true&gid=19
Obama-65,892,366
Romney-60,926,847
Other-2,234,791
NY state was the last to have outstanding votes. NY still has not certified the vote yet so there may be more votes out.

On edit I do not know why 2 links popped up, but they go to the same place.

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Response to hrmjustin (Original post)

Sun Dec 30, 2012, 03:36 PM

1. I've been wondering just how Sandy impacted the vote in NY & NJ. It would be...

enlightening to know that. Some have drawn the conclusion, and I think wrongly, that people just stayed home because the POTUS wasn't liberal enough. I know it's ridiculous, but that's the new meme.

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Response to Tarheel_Dem (Reply #1)

Sun Dec 30, 2012, 04:05 PM

2. According to these numbers there was over 2 million less voters this time compared to 2008.

I think that is pretty good. Romney was able to get 2 million more than Mccain, and the president got 3.5 million less votes. With all that happened I think it was a fine win by the president.

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Response to hrmjustin (Reply #2)

Sun Dec 30, 2012, 04:38 PM

3. I agree and when you figure in all the Suppressed votes


it is amazing that Obama won at all.

One thing that worked that was kept pretty quiet ... Obama's team had over 650 lawyers on the ground during the voting period.

Rmoney had ROVE and his Elves.

OBAMA's Team ran a beautiful campaign!

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Response to goclark (Reply #3)

Sun Dec 30, 2012, 06:59 PM

5. Rmoney didn't have elves

They were imps and other evil creatures.

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Response to hrmjustin (Reply #2)

Sun Dec 30, 2012, 07:02 PM

6. Only two million less? That's funny, because I was just in a conversation where....

the poster claims TWELVE million less. That's a huge discrepancy. Of course, the poster didn't provide a single link for this claim, nor indeed for any of the other numbers he trumpeted. I have maintained all along, that a huge destructive storm that decimated portions of two of the biggest, bluest states in the country had an effect on the vote totals. Couple that with the outright suppressive voter tactics used by Repuke SOS's, and you have a recipe for major disengagement.

A nearly 5 mil vote surplus is an ass whooping by any measure. I guess the question for third party advocates is why their candidates couldn't capitalize on those 2 to "12" million voters? The three parties, supposedly to the left of the president, couldn't manage 1% of the electorate, combined. That's a pitiful showing. Thanks for the info.

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Response to hrmjustin (Reply #2)

Sun Dec 30, 2012, 08:43 PM

7. And of that two-million less, it's likely half, if not more, wouldn't have voted anyway.

As there was about three million or so less voters overall than in 2008. Not bad.

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Response to Drunken Irishman (Reply #7)

Mon Dec 31, 2012, 03:34 PM

9. no, it's just over 2 million fewer votes than in 2008

and about half the reduction is from New York and New Jersey.

so basically a very mild drop off in voter turnout in 2012 except for areas hit by Sandy which caused a severe drop in turnout.

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Response to Tarheel_Dem (Reply #1)

Sun Dec 30, 2012, 06:53 PM

4. I think the vote differences were in a large part due to NY and NJ

if you look at the vote difference between 08' and 12' that pretty much accounts for the difference. After taking that in to account you are talking about such a small difference that the election would have been pretty much on par with 08'.

Before the election I was a little worried whether some of the affected states would have decent turnout and it appears most of the states (with the exception of the two) did great.

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Response to hrmjustin (Original post)

Sun Dec 30, 2012, 11:23 PM

8. Still too close to call...

I half expect to turn on CNN and hear that some mornings.

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