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Sun Dec 30, 2012, 02:30 AM

WaPo Op - "Let’s just say it: The Republicans are the problem."

The current fiscal cliff fiasco that was punctuated by Boehner's failure to get his extremist caucas to even support a right wing fiscal cliff proposal that only mildly impacted folks making more than a million a year should make clear that Republicans are in no position to govern. Yet, the media bends over backwards to "blame both sides," which gives Republicans huge political cover to act even more extreme. In other words, the worse Republicans act, the worse the media says Democrats are, because both sides are too blame!

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/lets-just-say-it-the-republicans-are-the-problem/2012/04/27/gIQAxCVUlT_story.html

We have been studying Washington politics and Congress for more than 40 years, and never have we seen them this dysfunctional. In our past writings, we have criticized both parties when we believed it was warranted. Today, however, we have no choice but to acknowledge that the core of the problem lies with the Republican Party.

The GOP has become an insurgent outlier in American politics. It is ideologically extreme; scornful of compromise; unmoved by conventional understanding of facts, evidence and science; and dismissive of the legitimacy of its political opposition.

When one party moves this far from the mainstream, it makes it nearly impossible for the political system to deal constructively with the country’s challenges.

“Both sides do it” or “There is plenty of blame to go around” are the traditional refuges for an American news media intent on proving its lack of bias, while political scientists prefer generality and neutrality when discussing partisan polarization. Many self-styled bipartisan groups, in their search for common ground, propose solutions that move both sides to the center, a strategy that is simply untenable when one side is so far out of reach.

It is clear that the center of gravity in the Republican Party has shifted sharply to the right. Its once-legendary moderate and center-right legislators in the House and the Senate — think Bob Michel, Mickey Edwards, John Danforth, Chuck Hagel — are virtually extinct.

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Reply WaPo Op - "Let’s just say it: The Republicans are the problem." (Original post)
TomCADem Dec 2012 OP
Skittles Dec 2012 #1
BlancheSplanchnik Dec 2012 #3
Skittles Dec 2012 #5
BlancheSplanchnik Dec 2012 #8
Skittles Dec 2012 #9
BlancheSplanchnik Dec 2012 #10
Skittles Dec 2012 #14
Great Cthulhu Dec 2012 #2
Skittles Dec 2012 #6
Rex Dec 2012 #7
kelliekat44 Dec 2012 #4
Kablooie Dec 2012 #11
66 dmhlt Dec 2012 #12
LiberalFighter Dec 2012 #15
TomCADem Dec 2012 #17
intheflow Dec 2012 #18
democrattotheend Dec 2012 #13
LiberalFighter Dec 2012 #16

Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Sun Dec 30, 2012, 03:00 AM

1. I really, really hope they did not just come to this conclusion this year

the GOP has been the problem for a long, long time now - they have spiraled and they have taken America down with them

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Response to Skittles (Reply #1)

Sun Dec 30, 2012, 05:07 AM

3. it's the price we pay for being aware...

Everything we've know for years eventually becomes "common knowledge" ....but knowing the facts, paying attention and seeing before most other people get it is often soooooo frustrating.

It's obvious to us, but it takes so damn long for the "general public" to catch on.

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Response to BlancheSplanchnik (Reply #3)

Sun Dec 30, 2012, 05:55 AM

5. it has happened to me all my life

I see things so clearly far, FAR before the masses do - I swear it is because I have no close family and do not watch a lot of TV

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Response to Skittles (Reply #5)

Sun Dec 30, 2012, 06:26 AM

8. oh Wow...this is wierd

Because that's pretty similar to me!

No family, don't watch much tv, a bit of an info junkie......

And yeah, in certain ways, I've been ahead of the curve too. For example, I sure remember when bewsh was running...campaigning, debating...all that Sh*t....I had a bad bad feeling right away. Did a little simple research on how he was as gov. of Texas and I KNEW.

Sometimes I kind of wish I was an ignoramus, just so it wouldn't be so frustrating!....or maybe ?? ....nah.....

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Response to BlancheSplanchnik (Reply #8)

Sun Dec 30, 2012, 06:31 AM

9. aw heck Blanche I was IN Texas

I remember when Dubya was running for governor actually LAUGHING when I got a load of him - I thought to myself, "Why does a rich stupid asshole like that want to be governor." I will NEVER forget the chill that came over me as I realized, "OMG - THEY ARE GOING TO MAKE HIM PRESIDENT". I was in England when the election occurred - Brits, upon discovering I lived in Texas, would ask me about Bush. I told them all, "HE WILL BE YOUR WORSE NIGHTMARE - ENDLESS WAR AND A CRASHED ECONOMY." Hoo BOY do I nail them.

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Response to Skittles (Reply #9)

Sun Dec 30, 2012, 07:03 AM

10. wow! oh man.......woa, that must have felt like seeing a train coming

And you're stuck in a locked car that's stalled out right on the tracks.

I was and am in Western NY state. I didn't have anything like you had and I wasn't specific, but when he won the rigged fight I had this deep chill-an actual physical sensation--knowing that there were forces way beyond *my* control that were hurling themselves with abandon straight for the jaws of death....

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Response to BlancheSplanchnik (Reply #10)

Sun Dec 30, 2012, 05:36 PM

14. I had enough sense to rearrange my 401K!

sometimes it does pay off but mostly it is just depressing

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Response to Great Cthulhu (Reply #2)

Sun Dec 30, 2012, 05:56 AM

6. sez most of the fucking country

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Response to Great Cthulhu (Reply #2)

Sun Dec 30, 2012, 06:02 AM

7. Rupert's token whaaaaaaa

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Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Sun Dec 30, 2012, 05:18 AM

4. Isn't this an old article? Shouldn't the pundits be saying this now?

It would be great to hear this on the Sunday talk shows but don't look for Crawly or Gregory to tell the truth. They are the main ones using the "they both do it" meme. Maybe an e-mail rush to them will make them stop?

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Response to kelliekat44 (Reply #4)

Sun Dec 30, 2012, 07:45 AM

11. What I'm hearing now is that both parties are to blame.

That's the meme that's starting to spread.
The GOP are expert at deflecting bullets so they hit Democrats and this won't be an exception in spite of the things you hear here on DU.

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Response to kelliekat44 (Reply #4)

Sun Dec 30, 2012, 08:25 AM

12. Gregory JUST did his usual false equivalency & blamed ...

Gregory blamed Pres. Obama's "lack of leadership" for the fiscal cliff.
And when co-anchor Erica somebody said Republican leadership was a failure, Gregory quickly jumped in with "And the White House!"
Gregory ... Republican sycophant shilling their talking points ALL THE TIME.

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Response to 66 dmhlt (Reply #12)

Sun Dec 30, 2012, 06:03 PM

15. David Gregory's twitter account is @davidgregory

Lets tweet bomb the hell out of him.

One of my tweets to him will be
.@davidgregory is a failure. He is owned by the Republicans!


Note the period right before the @ -- it will be seen by all of his and your followers.

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Response to kelliekat44 (Reply #4)

Sun Dec 30, 2012, 08:47 PM

17. Yes, Yet What Did Pundits Do This Morning? The Both Sides To Blame...

Meme, because it makes the corporate media look objective when all it really does is give Republicans a free pass. When Republicans oppose positions that even they embraced in order to torpedo any deal, then it becomes clear that Republicans have jumped the shark. It would be like Democrats voting against a Single Payer Plan supported by Dubya merely because they hate him so much.

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Response to kelliekat44 (Reply #4)

Sun Dec 30, 2012, 10:17 PM

18. Yes, the OP is from April of this year.

Still true but it certainly isn't a current article but political standards as it was seven months before Obama's reelection and this current fiscal cliff baloney.

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Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Sun Dec 30, 2012, 03:16 PM

13. I wish more in the media would just say that

I understand the argument for being fair to both sides but sometimes there really is only one credible side of a story.

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Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Sun Dec 30, 2012, 06:05 PM

16. I've been saying for several years now...

Government is not the problem. Republicans are the problem!

It's in my sig below too.

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