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Sat Dec 29, 2012, 10:25 AM

Will Hillary Clinton run for president in 2016?

By Suzanne Goldenberg, The Guardian
Saturday, December 29, 2012 9:25 EST

The campaign T-shirts are already on sale, the Washington rumour mill is in overdrive. But even if Hillary Clinton does decide to run for the White House in 2016, can she win?

Hillary Clinton, if you believe the hype, is only weeks away from girding up for her second run for president in 2016, this time going all the way to the White House. John Kerry, nominated last week as her successor as secretary of state, will be confirmed by the Senate in mid-January, leaving the coast clear for Clinton to begin preparing her battle for the presidency. And, after her successful term in Barack Obama’s administration, why shouldn’t she?

The entire Democratic establishment is urging Clinton to run – not least her husband, Bill. Die-hard fans are prepping for an announcement, with Hillary 2016 T-shirts for sale online and coy postings on the Friends of Hillary Facebook page: “Merry Christmas everyone! Hillary has a present, but she’ll only be able to give it to you in about 4 years …” And after 20 years in Washington, 2012 was the year Clinton officially became hip, with her own viral internet meme, a parody Tumblr site called Texts from Hillary. All of which, bizarrely, could doom a potential Clinton candidacy.

For those who watched Clinton’s first run for the White House, the clamour for her to run again, the idea that there is no one more entitled than she is to the nomination and then the White House, is beginning to sound depressingly familiar.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sat Dec 29, 2012, 10:38 AM

1. Yes. Hillary45. The rightwing conspiracy already has started and nothing can touch her.

 

the conspiracy theorists can yap all they want

but Obama's core fans and her fans don't listen.

And being that there is no other woman except Michelle strong enough to beat Jeb, it has to be her anyhow

and at the moment, NO other democrat at all.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sat Dec 29, 2012, 10:42 AM

2. No if e dems cut social security and Medicare she won't want to - big repug majorities. Nt

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sat Dec 29, 2012, 11:10 AM

3. So my republican friend, who I haven't spoken to since the election,

called me last night. We don't usually talk politics. We know that we are opposites. Last night we talked politics a little bit. You could have knocked me over with a feather when she stated, "I hope Hilary Clinton runs. I'd vote for her. Well unless Ron Paul gets on the ticket, then I'd vote for him. But right now, I do not see any other candidate that I would vote for more than her."

Ok, this on the Ron Paul thing, but on Clinton.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sat Dec 29, 2012, 11:15 AM

4. We don't need more outsourcing; we don't need the DLC, Third Way. DLC has done enough damage. n/t

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sat Dec 29, 2012, 11:22 AM

5. absolutely AMAZING that anyone would support someone who touts the advantages of outsourcing

http://www.ndtv.com/article/india/ndtv-exclusive-hillary-clinton-on-fdi-mamata-outsourcing-and-hafiz-saeed-full-transcript-207593

Hillary Clinton: So you are talking about the outsourcing of US jobs to India. We know it's been going on for many years now and it's part of our economic relationship with India and I think there are advantages with it that have certainly benefitted many parts of our country and there are disadvantages that go to the need to improve the job fields of our own people and create a better economic environment so it's like anything like the pluses and minuses.



So Hillary, tell us -- what exactly are engineers and IT people supposed to train for after their jobs get outsourced?

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Response to antigop (Reply #5)

Sat Dec 29, 2012, 02:59 PM

8. +1...And lets not forget Hillary's open love for Lobbyist Polticial $$ Favortism

 

I feel she is more politically to the Right than Obama..and Obama, if people are honest, governs as a moderate republican.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sat Dec 29, 2012, 11:28 AM

6. Do we not have anyone who will be younger than 70 who

can run and win? If the Repubs run a younger candidate, we're going to have a McCain/Obama matchup in reverse.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sat Dec 29, 2012, 12:30 PM

7. 2016 just depresses me

Field is likely to be a whole bunch of centrist establishment types, except for maybe Schweitzer (who's still not all that liberal, but better than most).

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Response to Proud Public Servant (Reply #7)

Sat Dec 29, 2012, 03:09 PM

10. BINGO!!

 

I find it sad that today's definition of "centrist" is just another word for "establishment" and so the media treats anyone they consider "centrist" as GODS, giving them open-seats on Sunday shows almost exclusively.

The US needs a viable 3rd party like they have in Canada because of the same reason we are messed up here: Both parties giving BJs to their corporate masters with no one representing the people.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sat Dec 29, 2012, 03:04 PM

9. I don't think she'll be up to it

I have no special insight, so I could be very wrong, but I don't think that she's going to be able to do it. That fainting thing - sure, she probably was dehydrated from the flu just like they said, but it still indicates to me someone who's exhausted. At the end of the 2008 primary season she looked wrung out. She's been trying to say that she's tired. Really, really tired. No one, least of all Bill, wants to hear her. Some people can keep going at full speed forever, almost. Others need to slow down at a certain age. And that's people who just have normal lives and pressures.

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Response to union_maid (Reply #9)

Sat Dec 29, 2012, 07:26 PM

11. You can count on one hand the number of POTUS still alive

Hillary has had her heart set on it since the day Bill got elected.

You don't walk away from a shot at it.

Most assuredly not when you have as much going for you as she will have in 16.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Dec 30, 2012, 12:59 AM

12. I hope so.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Dec 30, 2012, 03:02 AM

13. My Magic 8-Ball® says:

● Don't count on it
● My reply is no
● My sources say no
● Outlook not so good
● Very doubtful

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Response to Brother Buzz (Reply #13)

Mon Dec 31, 2012, 09:15 AM

17. lol. I only asked mine once...

it said : Outlook not so good. True story.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Dec 30, 2012, 03:26 AM

14. Nope. The Republicans in the Senate are getting ready to smear the living shit out of her

over Benghazi.

Trust me:

McCain is peeing just a little bit every time the Repubs tell the press they won't approve Whats-his-name for SOS until Hillary testifies.

Benghazi is all about 2016 and the Dems not being tough enough on National Security.

And their smear of Hillary is going to be front and center.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Dec 30, 2012, 02:44 PM

15. I disagree with one major point in the article.

Hillary was not a "flawed" candidate in 2008, her campaign may have had flaws, but Hillary hasn't changed. Some people's perceived opinion of her may have changed, but she's still the same smart, warm, funny and self deprecating woman people close to her have known for years.

As for her interest in women and children issues, she has been involved in these issues since she was in her 20s. I do hope that when Kerry takes over as SOS he continues her work in these areas. There is still much work to be done.

Hopefully, after some time to rest and reflect, she decides to run in 2016.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Dec 30, 2012, 05:43 PM

16. God, I really hope so.

 

And this is coming from one of her fiercest opponents in 2008.

In 2016, we all need her to run and win.

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