Tue Dec 25, 2012, 12:32 AM
politicaljunkie41910 (1,776 posts)
Another great article (long) which should be read
Last edited Mon Dec 31, 2012, 05:54 PM - Edit history (1)
Below is an excerpt from an New York Magazine article written about a Caribbean cruise sponsored by National Review magazine which set sail a week after the election. Columnists from the National Review hosted dinners and panel discussions during the weeklong cruise attended by 600 retired, white, GOP, so far in denial that it's scary. Even their 'hosts' from the National Review were at time perplexed by how deep the denial actually flowed. But the rightwingnuts created this group of 'denialists' and now it seems they realize what a Pandora's Box they've unleashed on this country. The entire article is kind of long so you might want to bookmark it.
The whole thing was white, and broken, that much was clear. A week after the presidential election, when the dreams of Republicans were dashed with President Barack Obama’s victory over Mitt Romney, we were snorkeling in the blue waters of the Caribbean. In the distance was a shipwreck. “You could make out the pieces of it,” said Ralph Reed, the right-wing political operator who had bolstered the Evangelical Christian vote for Romney. “It was deep and murky.”
Jonah Goldberg, the National Review contributor and author of Liberal Fascism: The Secret History of the American Left, From Mussolini to the Politics of Meaning, also bore witness to the once-great vessel that foundered off the coast of Fantasy Island and was now sunken and covered in white barnacles. “I saw the silhouette of it,” he says.
But what, exactly, were we looking at? It was Friday, November 16. We were in Honduras, gazing at a wreck off a resort called Fantasy Island, near Mahogany Bay. Through my goggles, I watched Reed, in white swim trunks and black flippers, flap his way down through the extravagantly blue waters to the old sunken barge, part of the $64.95 Shore Excursion available to passengers aboard the m.s. Nieuw Amsterdam, an 86,000-ton cruise ship owned by Holland America Line. It was day five of the National Review magazine’s Post Election Cruise 2012, and the GOP’s recent problems were, mercifully, about 760 nautical miles away. The cruise, featuring the star columnists of William Buckley’s 57-year-old conservative biweekly, had been planned long in advance, and everybody had believed it would be a victory party. An e-mail from the magazine’s publisher arrived a few days before we embarked: “Do not despair or fret. At least not next week.”
Onboard the Nieuw Amsterdam, no one could follow his advice. “Who sent Obama here to destroy America?” a fiftysomething woman asked me one evening over dinner, as if it were a perfectly reasonable question. And here onboard the cruise ship, it was. If the Nieuw Amsterdam was a kind of ark of American alienation, at least it was an eminently comfortable one. The ship was a country unto itself, eleven stories high, 936 feet fore to aft, with eleven bars, six restaurants, two swimming pools, five hot tubs, a large café, and a library. There was the endless buffet on the Lido deck, slot machines and craps in the casino, an Asian lounge singer who did a mean “Copacabana,” a discothèque and a chamber-music cocktail lounge, cigars and Cognac by the pool, gift shops, and a full-service spa.” ...
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Another great article (long) which should be read (Original post)
Response to jerseyjack (Reply #6)
Tue Dec 25, 2012, 04:30 PM
lunasun (7,688 posts)
8. oh yes and do worry
I have already posted here at a holiday party the talk from someone of their co worker ( mod repug) who had lamented at work that their kid was going to junior tea party meetings. My holiday party friend made a comment about Nazi youth, and the mod rep co worker did not confide any more, so they all walk a fine line just like that boat load in the OP link
You are correct
but I still got a good laugh over that comment
Response to politicaljunkie41910 (Original post)
Tue Dec 25, 2012, 03:38 AM
freshwest (53,661 posts)
2. This reminds me of the piece Jonathan Hari did called Swashbuckling Neocons.
It was also on a cruise ship and it was close to the same narrative these same people are selling. And that cruise did have Buckley on board, and they were going far to the right of him.
It was humorous when it wasn't outrageous. Same bunch traveling together for years, living it up on America gullibility, fed by GOP venality.
I call it the 'lifestyle of the rich and dangerous.' They are a threat to the lives of millions, and could care less so long as they remain in power.
Response to politicaljunkie41910 (Original post)
Tue Dec 25, 2012, 06:07 AM
PDittie (7,600 posts)
3. Fairly fascinating insight into
Most of us know people like these (some are our family members) and the detachment from reality and tolerance and even empathy is something we have often ascribed to aging -- senility, dementia, etc. But it's more complex than that. That doesn't account for the younger set of conservatives, though.
Calling it ignorance, or Fox News syndrome, doesn't really get to the heart of the matter either. The subsets break out into evangelicals, rural Americans, and a few others. They have God and guns in common but surprisingly little else.
As mentioned in the article, it's a virtual world; a Matrix-like alternate universe. Except they can't unplug from it.
Response to Squinch (Reply #5)
Tue Dec 25, 2012, 04:04 PM
Danmel (2,845 posts)
7. I once saw.a woman get out of an Audi A8
With a "Don't tread on me" bumper sticker. I thought, woman, you are driving an $86,000 car. Who is treading on you??