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Mon Dec 24, 2012, 12:22 AM

An Armed Guard at Every School?

I can't even imagine day after day, week after week, year after year a guard roaming the halls in every school in the country, waiting for the shooter. What happens when the guard has to use the bathroom, or is on the other side of the building, or is on break, etc.?
The only way I can even see this working is to have an armed guard in a look out tower, so he can view the entire grounds of the school. Then, he can alert the armed guard in the school and police. That could probably work.
Our schools will look like prison grounds. Wonder what that would do to our most young vulnerable kids being brought up with so much fear.
Of all things, cutting art, music and gym because we cannot afford it and replacing it with armed guards. Who is supposed to pay for this?

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Reply An Armed Guard at Every School? (Original post)
mary195149 Dec 2012 OP
LiberalFighter Dec 2012 #1
grasswire Dec 2012 #2
Cosmocat Dec 2012 #3
believeinhope Dec 2012 #5
Cosmocat Dec 2012 #11
Sunlei Dec 2012 #7
Cosmocat Dec 2012 #12
Sunlei Dec 2012 #4
believeinhope Dec 2012 #6
Sunlei Dec 2012 #8
Cosmocat Dec 2012 #13
cpamomfromtexas Dec 2012 #9
NewJeffCT Dec 2012 #10
former9thward Dec 2012 #14

Response to mary195149 (Original post)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 01:25 AM

1. Annual tax on all guns?

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Response to mary195149 (Original post)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 02:00 AM

2. 6.5 billion $ a year for that

That is the cost, according to CNN.

Good luck with that.

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Response to mary195149 (Original post)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 08:08 AM

3. I won't even tolerate people mentioning this

We deal DAILY with shit for brains ideas from the right wing and it takes a lot to not engage in trying to explain to wingers how bad these ideas are.

This one is too far for me, and I absolutely refuse to let it pass.

I also don't pussy foot around it, I flat out say it is crazy on every possible level.

I mean, I am half screaming starting with having to reply to their first response.

usual, snarky but a democrat this reply, "but, clinton suggested this ..."

IT WAS A BAD FRICKEN IDEA THEN, IT'S A BAD IDEA NOW!

This makes the Patriot Act look like good.

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Response to Cosmocat (Reply #3)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 08:51 AM

5. you do know

you are aware that school Obama sends his kids to(and many other DC power players send theirs to), Sidwell Friends, has their own armed security/guards present, right? (and that's apart from any secret service)

If it's such a bad idea, why does Sidell Friends think it's a good idea? Why do the parents who pay 35k a year to send their kids there think it's a good idea? SHould only rich folks be allowed to have their kids protected at school?

If armed security doesn't work and is such a bad idea why is it utilized heavily by the govt in every case where they have something they want to protect? Whenever Obama or any dignitary goes anywhere they are protected by heavily armed security. All military bases and important buildings are protected.

Of course it's not 100%, nothing is.

People bring up that Columbine had a guard. They never mention other schools that also had guards who acted and prevented attacks from happening. Ft Hood suffered a major attack and it had tons of hevaily armed guards and security. So should all military bases just get rid of all their security since it didn't work at Ft Hood?

Again, though, in my view, if armed security is ok for Sidwell Friends and many other elite private schools, I don't see why it's a bad idea for the rest of us in the "proletariat".

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Response to believeinhope (Reply #5)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 12:37 PM

11. It is absurd

Sidwell is a private school.

You want your kid to go to a school with armed guards, find one that has them and send them there.

beyond that, if you want a country where you need armed guards everywhere you go, move to Columbia.

Troll ...

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Response to Cosmocat (Reply #3)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 08:56 AM

7. most schools hire an armed police officer,Have security measures,crossing guards. costs millions.

These NRA 'leaders' want to grab more state and federal money for their own private 'for profit' school shooter guard companies. I guess whipping-up HISTORIC unregulated gun sales aren't good enough for them.

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Response to Sunlei (Reply #7)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 12:39 PM

12. Oh yeah, you want to set these morons off, ask how it gets paid for

Cut to the chase.

You want armed guards in every school, pre-school, church, grocery school, ect because there is no way you will except reasonable and common sense fire arm regulations, then YOU fricken pay for by having increased taxes on gun sales.

You want to see winger heads explode, hit them with that.

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Response to mary195149 (Original post)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 08:29 AM

4. we got the Patriot Act shoved down our throats in 10 days from these same Knee-JERK (R) reactions.

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Response to Sunlei (Reply #4)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 08:53 AM

6. patriot act

that would be the same Patriot Act whose renewal Obama(D) signed into law, right?

Just checking

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Response to believeinhope (Reply #6)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 09:33 AM

8. like the bush tax breaks they didn't let those parts expire.

This time I think the Bush tax breaks will expire. And I bet the next year? the renew part will expire too.

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Response to Sunlei (Reply #4)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 12:46 PM

13. YEP

That is part of why I can't being to tolerate this stupidity.

The House passes something like this, you have enough mush Ds in the senate to fold and pass it, too.

How does a POTUS not sign it?

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Response to mary195149 (Original post)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 10:06 AM

9. I don't want run of the mill "guards", I told my husband I want a guy like him doing that job.

There are already thousands of Federal Flight Deck Officers available nationwide (although they are concentrated at major airline hub cities). They have already been through VERY EXTENSIVE background checks. Similar to those done for top secret security clearances.

Because of the Federal limitations on their flight hours, they would likely be available a couple of days a week for local work at a school. Pay them well (they will NOT work for peanuts) and if you had 2 or three in the location, you could cover the school's schedule with highly educated and well trained people that are already attending training regularly for their FFDO roles.



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Response to mary195149 (Original post)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 11:38 AM

10. You know how they will pay for it?

They'll pay for it by laying off teachers and school support staff.

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Response to mary195149 (Original post)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 01:53 PM

14. How are they going to pay for it?

According to the Dept. of Education 28% of the nation's schools already have armed security. How are they paying for it? Chicago has over 2000 police and security officers in their schools -- almost all of them armed. How are they paying for it? http://policeincps.com/

I have never seen a school that is not top heavy in administrators. My suggestion is for the school to take the names of every administrator in the school and put them into a hat. Draw a name out and get rid of that person. Now you have the money for security and then some and the school will not be affected at all.

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