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Sun Dec 23, 2012, 04:11 PM

Obama is Determined to Give Republicans What They Deserve on the Fiscal Cliff

http://www.politicususa.com/obama-determined-give-republicans-deserve-fiscal-cliff.html


Obama is Determined to Give Republicans What They Deserve on the Fiscal Cliff

By: Jason EasleyDec. 23rd, 2012


More reporting confirms that President Obama’s hard stance on the fiscal cliff is a reality. Obama is looking to drive his election victory home by only giving Republicans what they’ve earned on the fiscal cliff.

As Politico reported in a story titled Why Obama isn’t Caving, “But if the 2012 election increased the president’s comfort with public emotion, it also strengthened his desire to ensure that the GOP — a party that has lost the popular vote in six of the last seven presidential elections — doesn’t get a better deal than they have earned.”

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People keep comparing the fiscal cliff negotiations to 2010, when they should be looking at last year for a more appropriate comparison. Republicans were hoping they would get 2010 Obama. Instead, they got 2011 Obama times ten. The president’s reelection victory has given him an exponential increase in strength, leverage and political capital.

While Boehner and the House Republicans are mired in their standard dysfunction, President Obama is at the height of his powers. The more Republicans misbehave, the lower Obama’s offer to them goes. Notice the shift in authority, Obama is deciding what or if a deal gets done. The days of House Republicans dictating their terms to Obama look to be long gone. (Those days actually ended in 2011, but some people refuse to see it.)

Obama is going to be the one to determine if Republicans get anything at all.

Based on their current behavior House Republicans have earned nothing, which is exactly what the president is offering them.

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Reply Obama is Determined to Give Republicans What They Deserve on the Fiscal Cliff (Original post)
babylonsister Dec 2012 OP
Cha Dec 2012 #1
freshwest Dec 2012 #3
zbdent Dec 2012 #12
Cha Dec 2012 #13
subterranean Dec 2012 #2
Liberalynn Dec 2012 #4
davidwparker Dec 2012 #8
blkmusclmachine Dec 2012 #5
riverbendviewgal Dec 2012 #6
xtraxritical Dec 2012 #10
Hekate Dec 2012 #15
Hekate Dec 2012 #14
bloomington-lib Dec 2012 #7
sheshe2 Dec 2012 #9
xtraxritical Dec 2012 #11
Hekate Dec 2012 #16
Hekate Dec 2012 #17
Sunlei Dec 2012 #18
grahamhgreen Dec 2012 #19

Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Sun Dec 23, 2012, 04:43 PM

1. The gop have earned

NOTHING these last four years.



http://theobamadiary.com/

Thanks babylonsistah

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Response to Cha (Reply #1)

Sun Dec 23, 2012, 05:10 PM

3. Where is he? Taking in a wonderful Hawaiian holiday with the family. See you January 2nd, 2013!

Just after TSHTF...

Looking forward to the State of the Union speech when he unloads on them.



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Response to Cha (Reply #1)

Sun Dec 23, 2012, 07:42 PM

12. What would be comical is if the "liberally-biased media" would point out that

the guy who gets all the media attention pointing out about Obama's "failure of leadership" has failed in his leadership in making the people answerable to him to make any compromise ...

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Response to zbdent (Reply #12)

Sun Dec 23, 2012, 11:22 PM

13. We will not hold our

breaths for that.. no turning blue in the face!

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Sun Dec 23, 2012, 05:06 PM

2. He should give them exactly what they voted for.

Expiration of the Bush tax cuts. Then he can push for new a new package of tax cuts on income up to $250,000, which will become known as the Obama tax cuts.

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Response to subterranean (Reply #2)

Sun Dec 23, 2012, 05:34 PM

4. Agreed

+
And no cuts to Social Safety Net. They can cut defense and oil subsidies

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Response to subterranean (Reply #2)

Sun Dec 23, 2012, 06:35 PM

8. +1

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Sun Dec 23, 2012, 05:38 PM

5. Correction, if history is a guide:

Obama is Determined to Give Republicans What They Want on the Phony "Fiscal Cliff"

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Response to blkmusclmachine (Reply #5)

Sun Dec 23, 2012, 06:02 PM

6. Just what are you saying

can you clarify what you mean?

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Response to riverbendviewgal (Reply #6)

Sun Dec 23, 2012, 07:08 PM

10. I think he means "why was SS part of the offer?".

 

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Response to xtraxritical (Reply #10)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 01:40 AM

15. I think you mean that. But you are still wrong.

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Response to blkmusclmachine (Reply #5)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 01:39 AM

14. Correction: you are wrong and your reading of history is wrong. nt

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Sun Dec 23, 2012, 06:24 PM

7. Well, they're not known for being reasonable

"“t some point, they’ve got to take me out of it and think about their voters, and think about what’s best for the country. And if they do that — if they’re not worried about who’s winning and who’s losing, did they score a point on the president, did they extract that last little concession, did they force him to do something he really doesn’t want to do just for the heck of it, and they focus on actually what’s good for the country.”"

"Republicans say that’s just more proof he’s a narcissist"

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2012/12/why-obama-isnt-caving-85443_Page2.html#ixzz2Fv7qJZBu

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Sun Dec 23, 2012, 06:58 PM

9. What a great beginning for 2013.

While Boehner and the House Republicans are mired in their standard dysfunction, President Obama is at the height of his powers.


Cheers Mr. President!

Thank you Babylonsister.

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Response to sheshe2 (Reply #9)

Sun Dec 23, 2012, 07:09 PM

11. And he offers up cuts to Social Security. wtf?

 

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Response to xtraxritical (Reply #11)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 01:42 AM

16. You keep on with that meme. But you are still wrong. wtf?

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 01:52 AM

17. Good quotes in there. Sweet reading, Babs.

They got nuttin'. What they earned was nada.

http://www.politicususa.com/obama-determined-give-republicans-deserve-fiscal-cliff.html

More reporting confirms that President Obama’s hard stance on the fiscal cliff is a reality. Obama is looking to drive his election victory home by only giving Republicans what they’ve earned on the fiscal cliff.

Why Obama isn’t Caving

Politico is the second non-liberal outlet in the last two days to report that President Obama is taking a hard line with House Republicans on the fiscal cliff. Yesterday, The Wall Street Journal reported that the president told Speaker Boehner that he would get nothing in the fiscal cliff negotiations. After Boehner’s Plan B imploded, the president spoke to the media and reduced his offer to the Republicans.

Many on the left jumped the gun and accused Obama of caving based on their own fears and media accounts that were sourced to House Republicans.

Obama is willing to compromise, but there is a difference between a compromise and a cave. In compromise, you give something to get something. A cave occurs when one side gives the other everything it wants. An example of a cave occurred almost one year ago today when House Republicans gave Obama everything he wanted by extending the payroll tax cut.

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 08:23 AM

18. what (R) 'deserves' is a PUSH off their (R) cliff. They waste Americas money and time.

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 03:27 PM

19. He is offering them cuts to Social Security and not cuts to war. Not nothing.

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