Sun Dec 23, 2012, 12:19 AM
Tx4obama (28,913 posts)
Patrick Kennedy said he expects his brother, Teddy Jr., could announce a decision before TuesdayLast edited Sun Dec 23, 2012, 12:20 AM USA/ET - Edit history (1) Conn.-based Kennedy considering Mass. Senate run NORWICH, Conn. (AP) — Former U.S. Rep. Patrick Kennedy confirmed Saturday that his Connecticut-based brother, Ted Kennedy Jr., is considering running for the Massachusetts Senate seat that will become vacant if U.S. Sen. John Kerry is confirmed as the next secretary of state. Patrick Kennedy told The Associated Press that his 51-year-old brother has been receiving calls from their late father’s former colleagues and friends, including former Connecticut Gov. Lowell Weicker Jr., urging him to consider running in the anticipated special election. Patrick Kennedy said he expects his brother could announce a decision before Tuesday, which is Christmas. While Patrick Kennedy said his brother enjoys living in Branford, he’s felt obligated to contemplate running in Massachusetts, where the Kennedy name is revered among many and where their father, the late Sen. Edward Kennedy, served 47 years until his death in 2009. -snip- http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/2012/12/22/conn-based-kennedy-considering-mass-senate-run/yUXFX4im1MbpQV8J516iXP/story.html Awesome !!!
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| Tx4obama | Dec 2012 | OP | |
| donco | Dec 2012 | #1 | |
| Tx4obama | Dec 2012 | #3 | |
| donco | Dec 2012 | #4 | |
| Texin | Dec 2012 | #23 | |
| BlueCaliDem | Dec 2012 | #2 | |
| tblue | Dec 2012 | #12 | |
| BlueCaliDem | Dec 2012 | #24 | |
| Ken Burch | Dec 2012 | #36 | |
| Jenoch | Dec 2012 | #31 | |
| Cha | Dec 2012 | #5 | |
| RudynJack | Dec 2012 | #6 | |
| Tx4obama | Dec 2012 | #7 | |
| RudynJack | Dec 2012 | #8 | |
| Tx4obama | Dec 2012 | #9 | |
| DFW | Dec 2012 | #15 | |
| karynnj | Dec 2012 | #18 | |
| Sunlei | Dec 2012 | #30 | |
| DFW | Dec 2012 | #33 | |
| RudynJack | Dec 2012 | #20 | |
| Tx4obama | Dec 2012 | #28 | |
| bigdarryl | Dec 2012 | #21 | |
| GoCubsGo | Dec 2012 | #27 | |
| Ken Burch | Dec 2012 | #10 | |
| Tx4obama | Dec 2012 | #11 | |
| LeftInTX | Dec 2012 | #13 | |
| DFW | Dec 2012 | #16 | |
| davidpdx | Dec 2012 | #14 | |
| hedda_foil | Dec 2012 | #17 | |
| bucolic_frolic | Dec 2012 | #19 | |
| Texin | Dec 2012 | #22 | |
| RBInMaine | Dec 2012 | #26 | |
| MBS | Dec 2012 | #32 | |
| Loupe Garoue | Dec 2012 | #25 | |
| Sunlei | Dec 2012 | #29 | |
| ms liberty | Dec 2012 | #34 | |
| craigmatic | Dec 2012 | #35 |
Response to Tx4obama (Original post)
Sun Dec 23, 2012, 12:23 AM
donco (1,074 posts)
1. I hope he does but
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this part might present a problem."Connecticut-based brother "
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Response to donco (Reply #1)
Sun Dec 23, 2012, 12:27 AM
Tx4obama (28,913 posts)
3. He also owns a home in Massachusetts.
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Last edited Sun Dec 23, 2012, 12:31 AM USA/ET - Edit history (1) From the article... -snip- Weicker, who recently called Ted Kennedy Jr. and ‘‘told him that he'd make a fine U.S. senator’’ said Kennedy is giving careful thought to the prospect of running. ‘‘I think he still has his own doubts,’’ Weicker said. ‘‘Obviously I think it has an allure. It should to anyone. But as somebody that’s gung-ho to do it, I don’t think you can put him in that category.’’ Should he decide to run, Weicker doesn’t see his friend being painted as an interloper from Connecticut. Ted Kennedy Jr. purchased the Hyannis, Mass., home that once belonged to the late President John F. Kennedy, according to Patrick Kennedy. Patrick Kennedy said his brother would have to switch his state of residency from Connecticut to Massachusetts. ‘‘I don’t think any Kennedy’s a carpetbagger (in Massachusetts),’’ Weicker said with a chuckle. -snip- |
Response to Tx4obama (Reply #3)
Sun Dec 23, 2012, 12:54 AM
donco (1,074 posts)
4. Hopefully
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that is where he is registered to vote.If not, expect ti to be an issue in the coming election.
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Response to donco (Reply #4)
Sun Dec 23, 2012, 01:01 PM
Texin (199 posts)
23. What are the residency requirements in MA? Kennedy lives in CT, and even if he owns
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the house that President Kennedy did, he's not a fulltime resident. How long would he have to reside in MA before he could declare legal residence?
And would it be better for Patrick to declare him as the interim Senator prior to the special election or should a non-candidate hold that spot? Again, I'm not sure of the rules on this. It would seem that serving in the interim would splinter time away from campaigning, but it'd give the person a jump start on the actual day-to-day of the senate. |
Response to Tx4obama (Original post)
Sun Dec 23, 2012, 12:24 AM
BlueCaliDem (5,256 posts)
2. Should Ted Kennedy Jr. run, he will win.
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In some nostaligc sort of way, Ted Kennedy can be back in the senate seat where Bay Staters believe he belongs.
This is very good news, Tx4Obama. Thank you for sharing. I believe he will run. |
Response to BlueCaliDem (Reply #2)
Sun Dec 23, 2012, 03:07 AM
tblue (13,920 posts)
12. Yes, it was so unnerving to have an R in Ted's seat!
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Response to tblue (Reply #12)
Sun Dec 23, 2012, 02:14 PM
BlueCaliDem (5,256 posts)
24. I'm right there
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keeping my fingers crossed with you, tblue. But I believe he will run. It's an honor to be approached by the Democratic Party to take his father's seat and it's his for the taking.
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Response to tblue (Reply #12)
Sun Dec 23, 2012, 07:47 PM
Ken Burch (31,231 posts)
36. Careful, though...half the reason Scott Brown won was the insistence Mass Dems had
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on referring to it being "the Kennedy seat"...that's why the 'pugs were able to clobber us with the "it's The People's Seat" meme.
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Response to BlueCaliDem (Reply #2)
Sun Dec 23, 2012, 04:14 PM
Jenoch (1,650 posts)
31. To be accurate,
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it would not be the seat his father held (Brown is in that seat).
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Response to Tx4obama (Original post)
Sun Dec 23, 2012, 01:02 AM
Cha (124,584 posts)
5. Thanks Tx.. Found this interesting about Weicker who has had quite a history..
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"..including former Connecticut Gov. Lowell Weicker Jr., urging him to consider running in the anticipated special election."
"Lowell P. Weicker, Jr. sticks the boots to former friend Linda McMahon" http://www.cagesideseats.com/2012/9/14/3332500/lowell-p-weicker-jr-sticks-the-boots-to-former-friend-linda-mcmahon http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lowell_P._Weicker,_Jr. Here's to Teddy Jr making the right choice for him and his family.. I can see why he might feel he is being called to Service. |
Response to Tx4obama (Original post)
Sun Dec 23, 2012, 01:03 AM
RudynJack (690 posts)
6. I know next to nothing about him...
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what qualifies him, other than his name?
Is he smart? Is he capable? I can't think of a Kennedy I don't love. But is the name enough to let him join the most exclusive club in the world? Personally, I want Barney Frank, but he's ruled it out. But I'd take Ed Markey. |
Response to RudynJack (Reply #6)
Sun Dec 23, 2012, 01:06 AM
Tx4obama (28,913 posts)
7. Below is a link to his Wiki BIO
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Here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_M._Kennedy,_Jr. A bit thin but I suspect more will be added to the page once the media starts talking about him more in the next few days. |
Response to Tx4obama (Reply #7)
Sun Dec 23, 2012, 01:18 AM
RudynJack (690 posts)
8. Thanks.
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He's a rich banker. I'm sure he's great on social issues. But what makes him qualified for the Senate? He has no political experience whatsoever.
I would love it if he won a House seat and served a few terms. I want to be clear that I don't oppose him- I'm just questioning if he's the best possible option. |
Response to RudynJack (Reply #8)
Sun Dec 23, 2012, 01:26 AM
Tx4obama (28,913 posts)
9. There are U.S. Senators that never held office prior to becoming a member of The Senate ...
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Last edited Sun Dec 23, 2012, 01:28 AM USA/ET - Edit history (1) one example is Senator Al Franken - and he has turned out to be a very good senator. Another example is Teddy Kennedy Sr. - he never held office before being sworn in as a U.S. Senator. Pretty much ALL of the Kennedys have money - so we should hold that against them. Teddy Jr. grew up at the knee of his father - I suspect he knows more about politics (and the inside scoop of the congress) than half of the folks that run nowadays. |
Response to Tx4obama (Reply #9)
Sun Dec 23, 2012, 06:20 AM
DFW (13,345 posts)
15. About that last--do you EVER have that right!!!
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Case in point: me.
I have never sought elective office, never been a member of the press or anything remotely related. HOWEVER: My father was a prominent D.C. print journalist, opened one of the very first one-man Washington bureaus for a rural small town in 1950, when it was almost unheard-of. That town was on the St. Lawrence Seaway, so he interacted with Senators and Congressmen from Great Lakes states all his life. From 1950 to 2000, that meant heavy personal interaction with people with names like Humphrey, Mondale, Ford, Dewey, Javits, Cuomo, Trudeau & Chrétien (from Canada), Kennedy (Bobby Sr.), Moynihan, dozens of others. I thought "Senator" was a common first name among my dad's friends when I was little. Pierre Salinger was a near-neighbor while he was JFK's press secretary. My dad's cousin was Caroline Kennedy's tutor while she was a tot in the White House. My first visit to the White House to meet a sitting president was in 1965 with LBJ. His career-long friends included legends like Art Buchwald, Jack Anderson and Helen Thomas. In other words, I grew up living and breathing politics even if I was never a player personally. Running for office from Texas would be useless these days for me, but if you look at Ted Cruz and John Cornyn, if you asked me if I think I could better represent the interests of the PEOPLE of Texas in the U.S. Senate than either of them, I'd say probably. |
Response to DFW (Reply #15)
Sun Dec 23, 2012, 10:25 AM
karynnj (46,673 posts)
18. What a fascinating part of your childhood!
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Thanks for sharing it.
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Response to DFW (Reply #15)
Sun Dec 23, 2012, 03:32 PM
Sunlei (2,246 posts)
30. cool post! I'm a Texan, I would vote for you.
Response to Sunlei (Reply #30)
Sun Dec 23, 2012, 04:36 PM
DFW (13,345 posts)
33. Thanks, but I'd be a lousy candidate.
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I tend to say what's on my mind--not the best way to get elected as a Democrat in Texas these days!
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Response to Tx4obama (Reply #9)
Sun Dec 23, 2012, 12:36 PM
RudynJack (690 posts)
20. of course plenty
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Of course people without experience have served. But no experience isn't a plus. Be a mayor... serve in the house... I'm not saying he'd be a bad Senator. But I wouldn't hire a guy with no experience to be a senior manager
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Response to RudynJack (Reply #20)
Sun Dec 23, 2012, 03:12 PM
Tx4obama (28,913 posts)
28. Senators are not like managers or mayors. Senators deal with legislation (legal stuff)
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and Teddy Jr. being a lawyer has a 'legal education' which is more than 'some' of the other U.S. Senators. Senator Elizabeth Warren held no elected office before and Democrats are thrilled with her If Teddy Jr. decides to run I'll support him even though I won't be able to vote |
Response to RudynJack (Reply #8)
Sun Dec 23, 2012, 12:54 PM
bigdarryl (9,152 posts)
21. What makes Scott Brown qualified
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In fact what makes any of the hundred Senators qualified.Especally the way there acting in Washington
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Response to RudynJack (Reply #8)
Sun Dec 23, 2012, 02:59 PM
GoCubsGo (13,014 posts)
27. Elizabeth Warren had no political experience, either.
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And, she won without being a Kennedy. I don't see the issue here.
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Response to Tx4obama (Original post)
Sun Dec 23, 2012, 01:31 AM
Ken Burch (31,231 posts)
10. I'd like to see Joe Kennedy take a shot at this.
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He's laid low for awhile...it's probably his time now.
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Response to Ken Burch (Reply #10)
Sun Dec 23, 2012, 01:42 AM
Tx4obama (28,913 posts)
11. I just read his bio and it's a shame that he left The House.
Response to Tx4obama (Reply #11)
Sun Dec 23, 2012, 04:38 AM
LeftInTX (2,242 posts)
13. Gosh, he would be great. What a shame he's not interested.
Response to Tx4obama (Reply #11)
Sun Dec 23, 2012, 06:27 AM
DFW (13,345 posts)
16. He was a classmate of mine briefly
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He matured a LOT, obviously, but I don't know if he was really suited for the type of life Congress requires one to have. I was surprised as hell when it was he that ran for Congress first instead of his younger brother, Bobby, jr (whom I actually knew better). But then Bobby, Jr. had some personal issues later on that would have been serious ammunition for a Republican opponent, even in Massachusetts, so he chose another path for himself--one that he has excelled in, as it turns out.
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Response to Tx4obama (Original post)
Sun Dec 23, 2012, 05:58 AM
davidpdx (8,782 posts)
14. If he ran I'd feel so much better about Kerry leaving
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I just don't want Scott Brown to win again.
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Response to Tx4obama (Original post)
Sun Dec 23, 2012, 10:19 AM
hedda_foil (7,336 posts)
17. Wonderful news!
Response to Tx4obama (Original post)
Sun Dec 23, 2012, 10:55 AM
bucolic_frolic (708 posts)
19. I hope he doesn't run
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Brown could possibly win, it's not beyond the realm of possibility.
So it would be better to let Brown flame out on a lesser-known candidate than for a high-caliber Kennedy candidate to risk defeat. If Brown had not been a recent incumbent Senator and won a special election in the state, I'd be all for it. |
Response to bucolic_frolic (Reply #19)
Sun Dec 23, 2012, 12:55 PM
Texin (199 posts)
22. The fear of defeat shouldn't deter anyone from running for office.
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Let's face it, there's about a 50-50 chance for any political candidate to win or lose in a two-person race. Just because Brown was essentially a default candidate back in 2010 and again at this point shouldn't deter an eager person who sincerely wants to serve. The Kennedy name is well known and has been respected by MA voters for a long time. It wouldn't be a lock, certainly, but it seems to me that Ted Kennedy, Jr. is as well known a name as Scott Brown's was when he first entered the senate campaign. Who the hell ever heard of him before he ran? Nobody except the people that got a gander at his naked centerfold spread ever heard of him before that. And most of those folks probably forgot they'd ever seen him before, truth be told. The worst thing that could happen in the fight for this seat on either side would be for multiple candidates to throw their hats in. The Dems need to rally behind one candidate from the jump to mobilize stat. Runoffs and contention prior to the actual election would be a disaster IMO, because I think on the rethug's side Brown is a shoe-in if he indicates he wants to run, as I think everyone else will defer to him.
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Response to bucolic_frolic (Reply #19)
Sun Dec 23, 2012, 02:33 PM
RBInMaine (9,455 posts)
26. Amazing how "progressives" bash Obama for "caving" but wave a white flag in the blink of an eye.
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For goodness sake, the Naked Man just got beat once and could certainly get beat again. Why this white flagging? It is entirely COWARDLY.
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Response to RBInMaine (Reply #26)
Sun Dec 23, 2012, 04:19 PM
MBS (4,363 posts)
32. My thoughts exactly! n/t
Response to Tx4obama (Original post)
Sun Dec 23, 2012, 02:23 PM
Loupe Garoue (2 posts)
25. We met Teddy Jr with his family
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on a playground in Kensington Park, London, in 2000 when we were spending a teaching semester abroad with our two kids.
My husband approached him and expressed that we were Mass. natives and admirers of his father and uncles. He was very friendly and gracious (I'm always a little worried about invading someone's private life) and asked us if there was anything special going on in town that they might do with the children. Overall, he seemed like a very nice, down to earth guy. I have no idea about his level of preparation, but it's got to be better than the average person. Also there is the support network of his extended family and political friends. |
Response to Tx4obama (Original post)
Sun Dec 23, 2012, 03:26 PM
Sunlei (2,246 posts)
29. excellent news. He would have plenty of experienced, loyal help and support.
Response to Tx4obama (Original post)
Sun Dec 23, 2012, 06:33 PM
ms liberty (3,356 posts)
34. I would love to see him run...
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And I believe he' d win. He's intelligent, personable and comfortable on camera and in interviews I've seen. I think he has been involved in the party, although not to seek office before now. He's not just a Kennedy but Teddy's son, so he knows more about politics and govt than most of DU put together. He hasn't had anything scandalous in his past that I can remember, and losing his leg to bone cancer as a youth is the only thing I remember that became a news story at all. I' d love to see him run and win.
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Response to Tx4obama (Original post)
Sun Dec 23, 2012, 06:52 PM
craigmatic (3,203 posts)
35. I'm not worried about Brown our bench in MA is deep. If WMK Jr doesn't run we have Patrick and a
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bunch of other dems who can do the job. It's good to see a new generation of Kennedys going into politics.
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