Did Obama win the election because he was a better liar?

another cutten runner

we didn't need your vote in the first place

don't let the door hit you on the way out

I am not the cut and runner. I worked the phone banks, I went door to door. I fought for him. I stood by him. I believed him.

I am a betrayed, disillusioned voter who trusted him when he said he would NOT put SS on the table.

Blame Ralph Nader. Al Gore wanted a lock box

because of third parties, America went bankrupt.

so blame Nader.

that really makes me appreciate the "Trash" option. Thank you, Admins!

Can't understand these cutters

What a superficial reading of a legitimate question.

Did he lie just to get elected? Does he have a duty to stick by his words?

Cover your eyes, mouth, ears to reality. Sit back and watch him give our SS away to those whose plan is to gut the government so they can drown it in the bathtub.

He mentioned that the evidence was all on paper in the news but people chose to ignore it.
So this isnt a surprise. The democratic party is continuing to shift to the right.

When we make "concessions" to the radical tea party in an effort to "compromise" we must move to the right.

I hate it when the politicians say "people want compromise." No, we do not want compromise for the sake of compromise. We want fairness.

I am surprised that Obama gave so much on SS--for the sake of compromise. SS has nothing to do with the financial crisis. The betrayal for the sake of compromise is a shitload to swallow.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022045704


If you wait for the deal...it is too late. Time to hold him to his word. Tell him to take it back.

Better time would be spent getting 100% amnesty, 100% citizenship and 100% guns off the street

but you are entitled to your wedge issues.

like a President is ever going to get 100%. Even LBJ did not get everything he wanted

Maybe if the senior Democrats in the Senate weren't so busy angling for a new job and did some strongarming like was done in LBJ's day. But they are too busy wanting to be SOS and other positions to bother anyhow.

really must draw the line at calling him a 'liar.' Obama made an offer he knew that Rape-publi-scum would have to refuse (b/c it took the debt ceiling off the table). That's not a lie, that's poker-playing bluffing at its finest. Rs, like the putzes and chumps they are, didn't call his bluff and instead folded their hand and left the table. Translation; Obama and we get to collect the pot and Rs get nothing.

For your reading enjoyment: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324731304578193770576333616.html?mod=googlenews_wsj

He lied. He promised adamantly and often that he would not allow republicans to fix the economic mess on the backs of seniors.

He promised.


I am not a troll. I want to know....did he turn is back on all of us who fought for him?

certainly did not here.

Actually, though, come to think of it, when you say Obama is a 'liar,' you may be entering troll territory.

I don't think it is troll-like to hold Obama to his word.

Did he lie? He offered social security. Something that he had been adamantly protecting during elections. The ink on the ballots is barely dry.

designed not to advance discussion but to provoke responses, i.e., 'trolling'.

That said, read the article at the WSJ link I provided. I think you may just gain a whole new level of appreciation for Obama after reading it. I know I did.

Matter of fact he went back to his original offer:


http://www.politicususa.com/obama-drops-hammer-republicans-pulls-fiscal-cliff-proposal.html

I've been wondering what that "thud, thud, thud" noise was every time I opened a thread.

Also explains why you can't walk through a thread about Obama without stepping on all of those failed widgets that are scattered all over the floor.

Is your post a good example of setting up a false equivalency?

Will you try to be a better liar in the future?

I am pissed, however, at the thought that Obama agreed to cuts in SS for no reason other than to "compromise" on the backs of seniors.

would take that offer?

That all he did was call Boehner's bluff?

cool kids.



Thank God for Ignore.

It is a hold Obama accountable for his actions thread.

and talking like 'both sides do it', you got rocks in our head.

No, I take that back - boulders.

pathetic.
you should get coal and onions in your Xmas stocking for that fart.

Instead of insults, explain.

Lie

1. a false statement made with deliberate intent to deceive; an intentional untruth; a falsehood.

2. to speak falsely or utter untruth knowingly, as with intent to deceive.

It crosses the line into bashing.

Thanks Barry O. You da man!

Did something happen that I should know about? Cause last I heard that didn't happen and if I write my Senators or call the White House, I am going to look pretty damn stupid.

I look at the Romney agenda, and take a look at it again...
Then think, ok, it's not that bad yet.

Oh, and we have the possibility of getting better Supreme Court Judges...
So, anything left of what Romney planned, I am ok with for now.

Yes, I know it can be considered lowered expectations, but at the moment, I'm just tired.
I know Obama is to the right of me, but I am still quite happy that we are not facing the abyss called Romney, so...

There you go.

Any how, I'll take you on your word that you wish to call/write the White House and your representatives. I mean, that is only the civic thing to do.

However, in regards to calling Obama a liar... well, being a politician tends to be synonymous with such a thing... Still, perhaps that word is too harsh for now, since it isn't even the beginning of his 2nd term as of yet.

The idea for the moment is that both sides want to show that they are working towards a solution. I prefer he FDR it up, but, this is Obama, the fact that it isn't Romney is enough for me for now. Still, good luck on that fight.

I still prefer him to just let the tax cut expires, not cut a deal, and postpone implementation of sequestration.

Whether you want to call him a liar is on your own conscience.

That being said we don't yet know what really will happen.

I have stood behind Obama since April of 2007 when I first gave to him campaign. Five and a half years out I'm not going to start screaming that he's selling us out when we don't know what's really on the table.

If you are wrong, then maybe you should think about supporting someone else.

And you are a horse's patoot for even asking such a stupid question.

If you subtract the effects of Republican voter fraud and their huge money advantage, he won in a landslide.

This is not Obama's first rodeo, so to speak. He has been here before. He was a pretty good student in college. He does learn stuff as he goes along, and he knows who elected him and why.


Instead of pushing the panic button, I'd look up Yogi Berra quotes containing "it's over."

Translate that however you like, because you will anyway.

He hasn't given anything away to anyone, nothing has been signed into law.

One can spend time worried about every step in sausage making, or one can enjoy the meal when it is served. It is only served when it is signed into law.

I am an increasingly small number of years from claiming social security benefits. I do have a dog in this hunt, but I do not spend much time worrying about chained CPI. It either will not happen, or it will not be sustained.

Shame on you. And grow up.