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Fri Dec 21, 2012, 12:19 PM

 

President John McCain (and the Repubs) Demanded John Kerry for SoS and So Shall it be Done

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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/21/john-kerry-secretary-of-state_n_2345721.html

Oh i'm sorry, i forgot that President Barack Obama was our president because it seemed like John McCain and the republicans were once again dictating White House policy on yet another issue.

The republicans demanded John Kerry be Secretary of State with John McCain leading the charge and to no one's surprise John Kerry has been selected by President Obama for the position, leaving open an easy run by Scott Brown as publicly strategized by republicans with recent polls showing Brown ahead by more than 20-30 points on every potential democratic challenger for the seat.

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Reply President John McCain (and the Repubs) Demanded John Kerry for SoS and So Shall it be Done (Original post)
boingboinh Dec 2012 OP
phleshdef Dec 2012 #1
KeepItReal Dec 2012 #3
phleshdef Dec 2012 #6
Mz Pip Dec 2012 #13
merrily Dec 2012 #4
phleshdef Dec 2012 #7
Gargoyle22 Dec 2012 #21
MadBadger Dec 2012 #23
Gargoyle22 Dec 2012 #24
graham4anything Dec 2012 #29
Floyd_Gondolli Dec 2012 #38
LoisB Dec 2012 #8
democrattotheend Dec 2012 #20
graham4anything Dec 2012 #28
phleshdef Dec 2012 #34
coalition_unwilling Dec 2012 #36
graham4anything Dec 2012 #37
phleshdef Dec 2012 #40
Jumping John Dec 2012 #2
still_one Dec 2012 #5
leftynyc Dec 2012 #9
JoePhilly Dec 2012 #10
TwilightGardener Dec 2012 #11
ProSense Dec 2012 #12
NYC Liberal Dec 2012 #14
RBInMaine Dec 2012 #15
RBInMaine Dec 2012 #16
NewJeffCT Dec 2012 #32
renie408 Dec 2012 #17
babylonsister Dec 2012 #18
YvonneCa Dec 2012 #19
Jennicut Dec 2012 #22
MjolnirTime Dec 2012 #25
Old and In the Way Dec 2012 #26
coalition_unwilling Dec 2012 #39
RoverSuswade Dec 2012 #27
NewJeffCT Dec 2012 #31
patrice Dec 2012 #30
JNelson6563 Dec 2012 #33
janx Dec 2012 #35

Response to boingboinh (Original post)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 12:20 PM

1. Many of US wanted John Kerry way before any of this shit ever happened. Myself included.

He is the superior candidate for the position.

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Response to phleshdef (Reply #1)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 12:22 PM

3. Then you should personally step up and make sure Scott Brown

doesn't re-acquire that soon-to-be vacated Senate seat in Mass.

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Response to KeepItReal (Reply #3)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 01:28 PM

6. Its blue ass Massachusettes. If we aren't competent enough as a party to hold a seat in that state..

...then we don't deserve to hold it. Period. Brown got in there to begin with because we ran a terrible candidate with a terrible campaign. We took it for granted. There is ZERO excuse for us not to be able to hold that seat.

John Kerry will not be around forever.

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Response to phleshdef (Reply #6)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 05:44 PM

13. I agree completely

MA and the Democratic Party needs to put some effort into this and run a good candidate.

I know from experience living in what is now a very Blue state. If you don't pay attention you'll end up with Swartzenegger for Senator.

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Response to phleshdef (Reply #1)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 12:24 PM

4. Yes, but I don't want Senator Brown returning to Washington in another special election.

That's the reason the Republicans scapegoated Rice and demanded Kerry. Their actions had nothing to do with either Rice's playing Secretary Powell to Obama or with relative qualifications.

The Kochs' wet their pants when the only state to go for Senator McGovern finally got a Republican Senator again and they are not going to let it go.

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Response to merrily (Reply #4)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 01:30 PM

7. First off, even if Brown did get that seat, it changes nothing as far as who controls the Senate...

...and secondly, as I said to the person above, theres no excuse for us not to be able to hold a seat in a deep blue state like Massachusettes. None. If we can't do that much, we don't deserve it. Everyone likes to talk about how such and such should grow a spine. Well to people who are worried about Scott Brown, right back at ya. Grow a spine. John Kerry will not be around forever.

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Response to phleshdef (Reply #7)

Sat Dec 22, 2012, 10:49 AM

21. He will be representing me for the next 15 years in the Senate.

You people just don't get it. He is popular here and will win a special election easily.

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Response to Gargoyle22 (Reply #21)

Sat Dec 22, 2012, 12:37 PM

23. And yet he lost his election after only two years...

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Response to MadBadger (Reply #23)

Tue Dec 25, 2012, 04:46 PM

24. He ran a very credible campaign in the worst possible environment.

The electorate that will be going to the polls in a special election will bear very little resemblence to the one we saw last November.

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Response to Gargoyle22 (Reply #24)

Thu Dec 27, 2012, 03:27 AM

29. Yup. No coattails of President Obama. Not to mention

 

there will be the regular 2014 election yet to come
there will be a new governor election coming

people in Mass. are tired

unless they figure Brown will turn into a democrat possibly and who knows, it could happen.

I trust the President as he has made ZERO mistakes so far, so he knows things we can only imagine. Nobody has played the political game as good as President Obama.

Who knows.

Kerry is now in his last job, as soon as Hillary takes over in 2017, she will bring in her own people. He could have been senator for another 10 years or 16 years, instead of now 4 years and retired.

very odd.

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Response to MadBadger (Reply #23)

Thu Dec 27, 2012, 11:56 AM

38. EXACTLY

 

I love this defeatist tripe from newb sticks who have no idea of what they speak of.

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Response to phleshdef (Reply #1)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 04:21 PM

8. Add me to that list. Kerry was my first choice.

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Response to phleshdef (Reply #1)

Sat Dec 22, 2012, 12:57 AM

20. Agreed

I thought Kerry should have gotten it 4 years ago (although I cannot deny that Clinton has been great).

I was planning on going to MA if needed to help out with the special election, but then I realized it will probably be when I am studying for the bar

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Response to phleshdef (Reply #1)

Thu Dec 27, 2012, 03:22 AM

28. most of us didn't want this. Speak for yourself.

 

I feel bad for the people of Mass.(my sister lives there).

now they will have two of the bottom rung in seniority in the nation out of 100
and one is going to be a one issue solely specialized one topic senator, leaving the state without real representation

I would also feel the same if Elizabeth Warren were to now leave her position anytime in the next 12-18 years, because she is so suited for that one issue people wanted her to lead them with, and no other position would be equally as powerful as this one.

But who will be the (as Al D'amato so famously ran as in NY even though he was a republican, the "Senator Pothole", the one the people loved because he did the big stuff, but also the little every day stuff people saw in their own neighborhoods.(Al also for some reason was standing right next to Kirstin G. at her inauguaration after they tossed Caroline Kennedy into the river).

but anyhoo-

What was Kerry thinking?

He gave up one of the single most powerful positions in the senate, all that seniority, leading from the left to get bills passed, for what?

And its going to come back and bite him IMHO.
It's all his now.Including what came before and what comes after.
When his buddy is harrassing the 45th president in a few weeks, remember, that is John Kerry's BFF doing the harrassing, and Kerry was standing side by side with Hillary all this time anyhow, so McCain's words will be directly targeted at Kerry himself.

But hopefully Mrs. Kennedy will not only become Senator, but perhaps power postition herself into the VP in 2016 with Hillary45.

President Obama thinks 9 steps ahead.

It was evident from the horrible campaign John Kerry ran in 2004, he thought 3 steps behind, because he allowed himself to be Dukakissed by the Bush's as if it was 1988 again.
Whereas the great President Obama Dukakissed Mittens.

There is a reason President Obama is on that placemat of the Presidents and those that ran but never became President, are not.

It's not like Kerry will be running for anything again in 2016 or 2020, so this is his last job in government it appears. As opposed to running for reelection as senator and staying another 10 years or 16 years in the senate.

It boggles the mind.

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Response to graham4anything (Reply #28)

Thu Dec 27, 2012, 11:42 AM

34. Wow, that was some of the most incoherent drivel I've read in awhile.

First off. Don't tell someone so "speak for themselves" when you just started your post off with the words "Most of us...". I'm sorry, but that bit alone pretty much annhilates any shred of credibility you had. And if that didn't do it, the rest of your post finished the job.

Kerry has wanted this job for a long while. He probably wanted to end his career by being SOS, since he wasn't going to end it as President. He has been in the game for a very long time and has EARNED the right to go out on his own terms. Its not up to you. Its up to him. And its disgusting of you to want to deny him that.

Mrs. Kennedy as VP? Are you on crack?

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Response to phleshdef (Reply #34)

Thu Dec 27, 2012, 11:54 AM

36. +1. Someone's had a bit too much eggnog, methinks :) - n/t

 

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Response to phleshdef (Reply #34)

Thu Dec 27, 2012, 11:56 AM

37. ...how quaint and how scorched earth it is. But from what you say, Kerry is responsible for Bengazi

 

Why do the Kerry fans have such hatred for the Kennedy's?
This is now the 12th putdown of the Kennedy's.

Were they jealous of the love Teddy had from Mass. residents for 45 years?

The distain for the senate itself?

What is up with that.

I am glad when someone so hates a job, they won't be in it. It boggles the mind if he didn't want the job, why did he run for reelection anyhow in 2008? It so reminds me of Joe Leiberman, being that Joe became a mega whiner when he lost the presidency too

and again, if he was Obama's righthand man, then Bengazi is Kerry's fault not Susan Rice's.

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Response to graham4anything (Reply #37)

Thu Dec 27, 2012, 03:10 PM

40. Lay. Off. The. Sauce.

Seriously, you have got to be drunk out of your mind.

I loved Ted Kennedy. I like all the Kennedy's. But Vicki isn't qualified. Its absurd to suggest that she is.

I never said John Kerry hates the job. But I'm sure you've fucking heard of the concept of retirement. Its something people do when they get old. I also think its a concept you should consider where posting is concerned.

Your Benghazi angle is just drunken nonsense. I'm not even going to bother attempting to discern what it means enough to respond to it.

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Response to boingboinh (Original post)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 12:21 PM

2. Yes I agree. Giving the Rethugs whatt they want. And probably diminishing the

 

number of Dems in the senate to boot.

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Response to boingboinh (Original post)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 12:25 PM

5. I didn't know they already had the election for his seat and brown won

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Response to boingboinh (Original post)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 04:24 PM

9. Don't know what you're babbling about

I wanted Kerry all along and thought Rice would have been a terrible pick. With a decent candidate who actually runs a campaign, I don't see any reason we can't keep his senate seat.

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Response to boingboinh (Original post)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 04:44 PM

10. And another Manufactured Outrage Widget hits the shop room floor ... THUD.

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Response to boingboinh (Original post)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 04:58 PM

11. I'm pretty sure that isn't why he's being nominated. Sheesh.

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Response to boingboinh (Original post)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 05:17 PM

12. Instead of insulting the President

and John Kerry and hyping a nobody asshole like McCain, here are some facts to absorb:

Obama chooses Kerry for Secretary of State
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022048894

Clinton Celebrates Kerry’s Nomination To State Dept., Hopes For Quick Confirmation
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022049418

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Response to boingboinh (Original post)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 09:25 PM

14. Oh nonsense. The Republicans wanted Susan Rice, an easy target who they

were salivating at tearing apart during the confirmation hearings.

It is classic Republican m.o. They were trying to goad Obama and the Dems into nominating her just to spite them and a bunch of people around here fell for it.

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Response to boingboinh (Original post)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 09:41 PM

15. BULLSHIT ! Kerry has been on the SofS radar for YEARS ! This is ENTIRELY BULLSHIT !!!

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Response to boingboinh (Original post)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 09:43 PM

16. Ted Kennedy Jr. would be a VERY formidable candidate, but whomever it is, it is BLUEASS MASS, and if

they can't beat the DAMAGED GOODS KOCH BROTHER LOVING NAKED MAN AGAIN then they don't deserve to hold the seat. And if those people would vote for that fuckstick again, after the total asshole he made of himself in the Warren campaign, then they deserve the ASSHOLE.

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Response to RBInMaine (Reply #16)

Thu Dec 27, 2012, 08:22 AM

32. sure, "that fuckstick" made a "total asshole" of himself

but, he only lost by 7% in "blueass mass"

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Response to boingboinh (Original post)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 11:13 PM

17. Oh, for chrissakes, who do you think is better qualified?

Yeah, the GOP wants his seat in the Senate, but Kerry is honestly better qualified than Rice for this job. There were and are plenty of Dems who are very happy for Kerry to be Sec of State.

This is just stupid. There is plenty of REAL shit you can go after Obama for, why turn to this POS?

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Response to boingboinh (Original post)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 11:20 PM

18. Yawn and bullshit. But carry on! nt

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Response to babylonsister (Reply #18)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 11:59 PM

19. ...

... Today is a good day. Kerry will be great.

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Response to boingboinh (Original post)

Sat Dec 22, 2012, 12:23 PM

22. I preferred Kerry the entire time.

Over Susan Rice.

It makes the seat being open for Scott Brown inconvenient but he will be a damn good SOS.

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Response to boingboinh (Original post)

Thu Dec 27, 2012, 02:39 AM

25. how do you know Kerry wasn't Obama's choice all along?

 

Brown will lose again if he tries. The Teabagger Revolution is over.

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Response to boingboinh (Original post)

Thu Dec 27, 2012, 02:54 AM

26. The guy that led us out of Viet Nam deserves to be our Secretary of State.

Fuck that Republican pin-up....that asshole should not stop John Kerry from being one of our great American Secretaries of State.

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Response to Old and In the Way (Reply #26)

Thu Dec 27, 2012, 11:58 AM

39. "The guy that led us out of Viet Nam" (sic)??? Um, I like Kerry and respect his

 

contribution to the anti-war movement back during the Vietnam War. (During Operation Shocking and Awful, not so much.)

But the "guy who led us out of Vietnam" was Ho Chi Minh (with nods to Le Duc Tho and General Giap).

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Response to boingboinh (Original post)

Thu Dec 27, 2012, 03:01 AM

27. It amazes me that McCain & Linseed Graham get so much facetime on TV.

They are bullies. Graham acts like he's the vice-president. I'm just so tired of their pushy attitude on talk shows, esp. Meet the Press which they seem to be on every other week.

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Response to RoverSuswade (Reply #27)

Thu Dec 27, 2012, 08:17 AM

31. Outside of MSNBC between 5pm and 11pm

it's very rare for Democrats, outside of a select few, to get onto the talk shows. And, when a Democrat does get onto the news, they'll usually have a Republican there to oppose them. When Republicans get on the talk shows - like McCain - they'll often be on by themselves.

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Response to boingboinh (Original post)

Thu Dec 27, 2012, 03:40 AM

30. Yeah, tell us again how we really want a vocal OIL WAR supporter, acolyte of Israel with XL pipe

line love, on the periphery of a "mix up" over what happened in Benghazi, Libya that happened to involve a CIA double-cross.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021974232

And if any of that is so off-base, why did she excuse herself from consideration for SoS that the President never even offered.



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Response to boingboinh (Original post)

Thu Dec 27, 2012, 08:31 AM

33. Only 7 suckers rec'd.

I guess this was too lame for many of our staunch anti-Dem posters.

Here, use this cane to compensate for the lameness.

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Response to JNelson6563 (Reply #33)

Thu Dec 27, 2012, 11:50 AM

35. Don't do that!!!



Canes remind people of aging, and aging reminds people of Social Security, and...

pretty soon the usual suspects will come in here crying about how the evil president is going to take their social security away!!

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