2016 Postmortem

randr

(12,409 posts) Fri Dec 16, 2016, 03:18 PM Dec 2016

The defining moment of "Watergate" was the night John Dean was fired

As America woke the next day it was apparent that the "watergate" problem was not a political issue but an issue only our Constitutional processes could unravel.
Most American's at that point understood that the issue at hand was not about politics; it was as issue about who we are as a Nation. It was an issue only the use of our Constitutionally directed processes could unravel.
The only possible final conclusion to the "watergate" issue became evident to all as each day passed.
We are very near that moment today with the Trump/Kremlingate issue.
The more Trump tries to make it political the more it will become a Constitutional problem.

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The defining moment of "Watergate" was the night John Dean was fired (Original Post) randr Dec 2016 OP

We're just about here Hekate Dec 2016 #1

Indeed, then comes the frightening reality that Eliot Rosewater Dec 2016 #2

It's hard to know which outcome to want more. stevenleser Dec 2016 #3

This message was self-deleted by its author Eliot Rosewater Dec 2016 #5

Pence is worse in terms of actual policies NewJeffCT Dec 2016 #6

+1 uponit7771 Dec 2016 #8

I feel we were a different Party back then. jalan48 Dec 2016 #4

There were actually a few Republicans with principals back then as well NewJeffCT Dec 2016 #7

Hekate

(90,503 posts)

1. We're just about here

Reply to randr (Original post)

Fri Dec 16, 2016, 03:20 PM

Dec 2016

Eliot Rosewater

(31,104 posts)

2. Indeed, then comes the frightening reality that

Reply to randr (Original post)

Fri Dec 16, 2016, 03:31 PM

Dec 2016

even if impeachment is successful, his replacement is just as bad if not worse in many areas.

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)

3. It's hard to know which outcome to want more.

Reply to Eliot Rosewater (Reply #2)

Fri Dec 16, 2016, 03:37 PM

Dec 2016

Pence would, in my opinion, be worse domestically on both economic and social issues.

On the other hand, Trump's recklessness in foreign policy may result in all of us dying in a catastrophic war with China or Russia.

And sure, he's Putin's buddy now. If they ever disagree on something, watch unstoppable force meet unmovable object ego wise. There is a high probability of any dispute between the two of them escalating out of control.

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NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)

6. Pence is worse in terms of actual policies

Reply to stevenleser (Reply #3)

Fri Dec 16, 2016, 05:30 PM

Dec 2016

however, he lacks the charisma and media savvy of Trump. The media would have no option but to actually cover Pence's deplorable policies.

uponit7771

(90,301 posts)

8. +1

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Fri Dec 16, 2016, 05:35 PM

Dec 2016

jalan48

(13,834 posts)

4. I feel we were a different Party back then.

Reply to randr (Original post)

Fri Dec 16, 2016, 03:50 PM

Dec 2016

We had a lot of old FDR Democrats that had been through the Depression. They weren't afraid to take Nixon on. I'm not sure we have the backbone today that we had back then. I hope I'm wrong.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)

7. There were actually a few Republicans with principals back then as well

Reply to jalan48 (Reply #4)

Fri Dec 16, 2016, 05:33 PM

Dec 2016

young liberal Republican senator Lowell Weicker of Connecticut made a name for himself with his tough questioning of White House personnel.

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