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Thu Dec 20, 2012, 07:23 AM

Pelosi providing cover for chained CPI?

At a Wednesday press briefing at the Capitol, House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi acknowledged she’s disappointed with aspects of President Obama’s latest fiscal cliff proposal, and has encouraged her members to speak out against it, to prevent further concessions.

But she defended Obama from critics on the left who’ve pointed out that his proposal includes a Social Security benefit cut.

“I’ve said to the members, ‘express yourselves,’” Pelosi said. “Speak out against — because I’m not thrilled with the President’s proposal. It’s what it is in order to save the day. But that doesn’t mean that we all identify with every aspect of it. So they go forth with my blessing.”

Pelosi was responding to a question about Obama’s main concession to House Speaker John Boehner: a measure called Chained CPI that would re-index Social Security payments to a lower level of inflation.

Though Chained CPI would reduce lifetime benefits relative to the current cost of living adjustment formula, Pelosi said she does not consider it a benefit cut.

“No, I don’t,” consider it a benefit cut, she said. “I consider it a strengthening of Social Security.”


http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/12/pelosi-im-not-thrilled-with-obamas-fiscal-cliff-proposal----but-its-not-a-benefit-cut.php

Must say, I didn't see that coming...

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Reply Pelosi providing cover for chained CPI? (Original post)
Proud Public Servant Dec 2012 OP
Sherman A1 Dec 2012 #1
reformist2 Dec 2012 #2
MannyGoldstein Dec 2012 #4
Proud Liberal Dem Dec 2012 #11
newfie11 Dec 2012 #3
djean111 Dec 2012 #10
newfie11 Dec 2012 #13
leftyohiolib Dec 2012 #5
Bluenorthwest Dec 2012 #6
99Forever Dec 2012 #7
John2 Dec 2012 #12
99Forever Dec 2012 #15
RandiFan1290 Dec 2012 #8
djean111 Dec 2012 #9
budkin Dec 2012 #14
adirondacker Dec 2012 #16

Response to Proud Public Servant (Original post)

Thu Dec 20, 2012, 07:24 AM

1. Not a good thing at all

when there are so many other areas that could provide real savings.

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Response to Proud Public Servant (Original post)

Thu Dec 20, 2012, 07:26 AM

2. Maybe she hasn't seen this graph...

Someone should show it to her!

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Response to reformist2 (Reply #2)

Thu Dec 20, 2012, 07:53 AM

4. War is peace

Freedom is...

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Response to reformist2 (Reply #2)

Thu Dec 20, 2012, 08:52 AM

11. +/-$50 difference?

Am I reading this correctly?

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Response to Proud Public Servant (Original post)

Thu Dec 20, 2012, 07:32 AM

3. more insanity

How does SS affect the deficit???? What is the rush to impoverish more old folks? The hell it is not a benefit cut. If your cost of living is cut every year it affects how much money you get, is that not a benefit????This does not make sense.

If Pres Obama has some grand plan I wish he would let us in on it or stop trying to sacrifice SS every time the Dept Crisis come up.

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Response to newfie11 (Reply #3)

Thu Dec 20, 2012, 08:41 AM

10. I am afraid the thinking is that if SS payouts can be cut enough, the money stolen from it

won't need to be paid back.

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Response to djean111 (Reply #10)

Thu Dec 20, 2012, 09:10 AM

13. That is the first thing I've heard that makes sense

Thank you

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Response to Proud Public Servant (Original post)

Thu Dec 20, 2012, 07:56 AM

5. bush's impeachment off the table - cuts to the elderly on the table - good ole nancy strikes again

 

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Response to Proud Public Servant (Original post)

Thu Dec 20, 2012, 08:00 AM

6. Pelosi is too busy counting her tens of millions to learn what she is talking about.

She sounds exactly like a Republican. Exactly. She should be ashamed of the steaming bullshit coming out of her mouth.

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Response to Proud Public Servant (Original post)

Thu Dec 20, 2012, 08:04 AM

7. I would "consider it" a reason...

... for changing my party affiliation. But that's just me.

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Response to 99Forever (Reply #7)

Thu Dec 20, 2012, 08:58 AM

12. Changing

 

your party affiliation to what, Independent,Libertarian or Republican? You don't change your affiliation, you get rid of the person betraying you. Barrack Obama ran for office because people were not satisfied with the establishment of the party. He took up issues such as against the War in Iraq and Universal Health care. So he got people to vote him in office against Hillary Clinton.

The current Democratic Party has enough bright young people to primary the old guard if they don't listen to the Base. You don't get out, but change the leaders from the Top, who want sell out to corporate interests. President Obama needs to remember who sent him to office and not compromise his core values. You don't tell voters, that you will fight for their causes and then get into office to compromise behind closed doors. If they were going to do that, then don't ask for our vote. The people reminding President Obama and Nancy Pelosi are not the extreme Left either. When those people call them, they are reminding them why they are there. They get up there and listen to media pundits like Chris Matthews,Bob Woodward, Ed Rendell, on these morning and evening talk shows.

Chris Matthews' tone during the Election was all for progressives and then suddenly it changed to compromise with Boehner. Boehner was the same guy disrespecting Obama during the Election and at his convention saying throw Obama out of some Bar. Woodward was the same guy going around during the Election, trying to undercut Obama and claiming the President betrayed Boehner. Now they are trying to dupe the same President Obama into turning off the same voters that got him elected. With the exception of Matthews, these people were pulling for Mitt Romney to win. I see the manipulation going on by the Press and certain Blue dogs attacking people they call this extreme Left. The only extremists are the Right.

What is actually going on is a tactic, Bill Clinton and Dick Morris used to perfection in the 90s with NAFTA. It is called triangulation. They call themselves moving to the middle by demonizing the Left by associating them with extremism similar to racists, and religious intolerant groups on the right. I don't see these people as in the middle. They are more in bed with corporate interests, which pit one side against the other. Their only cause is profits. All of a sudden, they have a welcome mat to the white house now. Saying Social Security is off the Table and then reversing it two or three weeks later under the cover of some known event, provides the distrust people have in you. Saying you are with drawing from a place and then making excuses to remain after getting votes, makes people distrust you.

The smart thing for the base to do, is run someone of their own within the party and get rid of those at the top. You don't do it outside of the party but do it the same way Obama did it. Obama has been given a second chance to do what people sent him to do. There should be no compromise or equivocation period. That is what his legacy will be.

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Response to John2 (Reply #12)

Thu Dec 20, 2012, 09:31 AM

15. Ahhh yes. "Change it from the inside."

Correct?

Well my friend, at age 59 and as a lifelong Democrat, I can assure you that the party is indeed, "Changing from the inside(rs)" and not for the better. The Democratic Party of today, is far too the right of Nixon, a miserable, detestable Republican. We now have a "Democratic President" offering up my last hope to have some sort of life line, if I live that long, Social Security for sacrifice. I don't have time to wait for the rot to be purged from "my party" and for it to heal. I needed real help 4 years ago when it was promised. I don't have 4 more or even 2.

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Response to Proud Public Servant (Original post)

Thu Dec 20, 2012, 08:16 AM

8. Mad, y'all?







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Response to Proud Public Servant (Original post)

Thu Dec 20, 2012, 08:39 AM

9. Bear in mind that the mindset in Washington, in Wall Street, in corporate boardrooms,

and in the hangouts of the very rich, in conservative and third way think tanks, etc. - cutting social security payments in half, immediately, would strengthen social security and free up even more money to steal for corporate and bank subsidies and the military industrial complex.
"Strengthening Social Security" doesn't mean what Progressives think it means, in Washington.

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Response to Proud Public Servant (Original post)

Thu Dec 20, 2012, 09:12 AM

14. Is this really happening? Take action!

Keep calling and writing our suddenly out of touch with reality leadership. This is total bullshit.

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Response to Proud Public Servant (Original post)

Thu Dec 20, 2012, 10:24 AM

16. I think the term "express yourselves" is quite fitting in the proper context. Which this is.

OK, anyone working in the veterinarian trade will get it.

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