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Wed Dec 19, 2012, 03:47 PM

Boehner just spat in Obama's face with that one minute press conference

See what happens when you try to reach out the the GOP? They spit in your face.

Off the cliff we should go.

If the GOP spits in your face, you punch them right in the mouth.

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Reply Boehner just spat in Obama's face with that one minute press conference (Original post)
Cali_Democrat Dec 2012 OP
jenmito Dec 2012 #1
democrattotheend Dec 2012 #3
savalez Dec 2012 #5
Doctor_J Dec 2012 #14
jenmito Dec 2012 #17
plcdude Dec 2012 #2
TheBlackAdder Dec 2012 #4
jenmito Dec 2012 #6
JoePhilly Dec 2012 #8
TroglodyteScholar Dec 2012 #12
TheBlackAdder Dec 2012 #13
Doctor_J Dec 2012 #15
Filibuster Harry Dec 2012 #7
Blue Idaho Dec 2012 #9
Doctor_J Dec 2012 #16
Scoodie67 Dec 2012 #10
forestpath Dec 2012 #11
Manifestor_of_Light Dec 2012 #18
otohara Dec 2012 #19
Kablooie Dec 2012 #20

Response to Cali_Democrat (Original post)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 03:56 PM

1. I have a feeling Obama KNEW Boehner would do that. Who's the reasonable-looking one? Obama-and

now it looks like we'll go off the cliff and get the tax cuts we all wanted-for those making under $250K despite Obama's "concessions."

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Response to jenmito (Reply #1)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 04:13 PM

3. I agree

I don't see why the White House would have leaked its offer if they expected Republicans to take them up on it. This way, if we go over, it looks like the president really tried to make a deal, but the GOP were just too intransigent. At least I hope.

That said, going over the cliff does nothing to lessen the possibility of chained CPI or any other entitlement/spending cuts down the line. Only a deal that takes the debt ceiling away from the GOP and funds the govt. beyond March will do that.

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Response to democrattotheend (Reply #3)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 04:23 PM

5. I agree.

All of it was designed to make Boner look like a fool. Success.

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Response to jenmito (Reply #1)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 08:52 PM

14. Yes! It's 13-D chess!

Move all the way to right and box them in!

That is how we got insurance mandates, billionaires tax cuts, and a Repuke landslide in 2010. All we need is MORE capitulation, and it will work!

Seriously, some of you people are dumber than Fox Nation

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Response to Doctor_J (Reply #14)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 10:25 PM

17. If you think I'm dumber than Fox Nation,

I don't think YOU'RE very bright. And you didn't watch Obama's press conference today.

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Response to Cali_Democrat (Original post)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 04:10 PM

2. It is obvious

Boehner cannot convince his group to negotiate in a good faith effort. They have basically told Boehner to offer this and see if the White House will move more towards them. Personally I think they do not understand how the people feel about the taxing of the 2% of the population. They are out of touch with sentiments of the vast majority of Americans. I guess we will just have to offer legislation in the new year to provide tax cuts on the first $250,000 and go from there.

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Response to Cali_Democrat (Original post)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 04:16 PM

4. That's because Boehner knows that Obama will cave even more.

Obama should just say,

"You know what? I've tried and there is NO movement on the other side. I'm rescinding my offer."

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Response to TheBlackAdder (Reply #4)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 04:27 PM

6. Really? Obama said he already has gone more than half-way and it's "puzzling" as to why Boehner

wants to give tax cuts for those making $900 million a year on the backs of the middle class. Obama showed how reasonable he is and now everyone sees how unreasonable Boehner and his fellow Rs in Congress are. Then we can go off the cliff and get the tax cuts for 98% of us.

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Response to TheBlackAdder (Reply #4)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 04:45 PM

8. That would be stupid.

Currently, the American people, when asked who they will blame for going over the cliff, blame the GOP. Obama can string them along and remain reasonable all the way along.

If Boehner can't control his wing nuts, we go over the cliff. The American people will blame the GOP.

Boehner loses 10 Republicans representatives with the new congress, and he probably loses his speakership to Cantor as well.

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Response to TheBlackAdder (Reply #4)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 05:47 PM

12. You're talking out of your ass!

Get a clue! Obama KNEW that Boehner is too weak of a leader to line his side up behind even a compromise that had loads of concessions. When Obama "sold us out" he knew that the GOP didn't intend to negotiate in good faith. So now the mess belongs solely to the stubborn and childish GOP.

All this talk of Obama caving is pathetic because it clearly demonstrates that a lot of Dems are just as brain dead as the average GOP knuckle dragger.

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Response to TroglodyteScholar (Reply #12)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 08:41 PM

13. Perhaps, but I've seen too many floundered negotiations in the past where Obama gave it all away.

I guess time will tell.

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Response to TheBlackAdder (Reply #4)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 08:53 PM

15. Yep

He sure does. You can take it to the bank.

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Response to Cali_Democrat (Original post)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 04:28 PM

7. i love the Rs plan B. When was it -- 2010 after the election or in 2011-- where the democrats

wanted to raise taxes on those with $ 1 million or more to pay for working on our infrastructure? And it was voted down. Does anyone remember that? I think it was proposed by Chuck Schumer.

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Response to Cali_Democrat (Original post)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 05:00 PM

9. The GOP are holding zero cards here...

If they don't act now they will have to act when everyone in their home district is screaming at them about their increased taxes come January. Think they will hold the debt ceiling hostage again? If they do they will just lose more house and senate members in the next election.

Boehner is an empty suit with an orange ring around the collar.

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Response to Blue Idaho (Reply #9)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 08:55 PM

16. But if no one calls their bluff, they will still win

no matter what cards they're holding. And given that Obama has already caved in twice, who do you think is going to fold?

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Response to Cali_Democrat (Original post)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 05:35 PM

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Response to Cali_Democrat (Original post)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 05:36 PM

11. And now Obama will spit in seniors' faces.

 

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Response to Cali_Democrat (Original post)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 11:18 PM

18. A repeat of the brinksmanship of Bill Clinton and Newt Gingrinch over shutting down the govt.

Newt lost and the public blamed it on Congress. So Bill won. I think President Obama is taking lessons from Bill. Bill is a master politician.

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Response to Cali_Democrat (Original post)

Thu Dec 20, 2012, 01:33 AM

19. Go to Boehners FB Page

and write something - support the President via social networking and it feels good to let off a little steam about his total disrespect for PO. Some pretty clever post over there...

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Response to Cali_Democrat (Original post)

Thu Dec 20, 2012, 01:48 AM

20. The problem is they know Obama will do anything to stop going over the cliff.

He doesn't have a do or die mentality.
He will never let things go off the rails and the GOP knows it.
They can demand just about anything and if they hold to it, at the last minute, Obama will give it to them.

I wish he had a little more Teddy Roosevelt in him.

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