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Response to villager (Original post)

Tue Dec 18, 2012, 03:54 PM

1. Time will tell. nt

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Response to hack89 (Reply #1)

Tue Dec 18, 2012, 04:02 PM

2. People in the GOP have defended slavery as recently as this year. It's not that adherents will

...all go, but the moment for slavering, slavish gun worship to be taken seriously as a policy position, has now passed.

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Response to villager (Reply #2)

Tue Dec 18, 2012, 04:59 PM

4. Lets see what actual legislation is passed

before doing the happy dance.

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Response to hack89 (Reply #4)

Tue Dec 18, 2012, 05:03 PM

5. Well, "legislation" can often lag behind cultural shifts

My OP wasn't about which legislation will be passed -- politicians still being, on the whole, a corrupt and pathetic lot.

This was about a change in cultural attitudes. And guns, I think, are on their way to becoming as culturally "cool" as driving drunk or having separate hotel entrances for different races.

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Response to villager (Reply #5)

Tue Dec 18, 2012, 05:11 PM

6. It is more likely that we will have a cultural schism

with more people at either extreme.

You really think Texas and all those red states are going to undergo a cultural change? You are not paying attention to they and their elected officials are saying.

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Response to hack89 (Reply #6)

Tue Dec 18, 2012, 05:16 PM

7. And many states still flew the Confederate flag more than a hundred years after the Civil War

I'm talking about attitudes in the mainstream, but yes, as with much else in American life, it will probably settle into a schism....

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Response to villager (Reply #7)

Tue Dec 18, 2012, 06:10 PM

8. Go to Nate Silver's blog and look at the states where the president had his smallest

winning margins.

http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/page/3/

all moderate to right leaning states with strong history of gun ownership. Now try to imagine a Democrat winning the presidency without those states.

The "mainstream" means nothing when it comes to the electoral math - you are playing with fire.

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Response to villager (Original post)

Tue Dec 18, 2012, 04:51 PM

3. Bravo.

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