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Fri Dec 14, 2012, 06:01 PM

The GOP Really is Being Dismantled

http://www.boomantribune.com/story/2012/12/14/123743/63

The GOP Really is Being Dismantled

by BooMan
Fri Dec 14th, 2012 at 12:37:43 PM EST

I'm beginning to think that, simply by standing pat, the president really is going to dismantle the modern Republican Party. I agree with Jon Chait that Obama isn't doing this out of meanness or spite, but I think he knows what he is doing and that it is part of his desire to be a transformative president. He wants new revenues because the government needs new revenues to keep its obligations, but he's presiding over the total crack-up of the GOP and he isn't lifting a pinkie to help them out of their dilemma.

I think we are witnessing the end days of the Reagan Revolution, and I didn't really see it coming, even a couple of weeks ago.

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http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2012/12/obama-punishing-the-gop-because-hes-mean.html

Is Obama Punishing the GOP Because He’s Mean?

By Jonathan Chait

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It’s certainly true that Republicans are undergoing some internal strife right now over the tax issue. Daniel Henninger, also on the Journal editorial page, mourns that the president is “dismantle{ing} their party by letting its most basic conservative principles disappear.” But how this is Obama’s fault, I can’t quite figure out. It was Republicans who elevated the unpopular cause of low income tax rates for the rich to a sacred principle, built an entire party theology around punishing even the slightest dissent from that principle, and then enacted the sacred agenda through a rickety budget mechanism that caused it all to expire after a decade. That was a bad idea. Since Republicans are at least considering how to rebuild their party at the moment, my advice would be to do something else next time.

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 06:05 PM

1. I sure hope you're right.

I thought we were on the right track in 2008, and then came the teabaggers and 2010.

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 06:05 PM

2. Can't happen soon enough.

Fuck all repukes.

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 06:14 PM

3. Just wait ...

A related and more subtle complaint, raised by Rove today, is that Obama should accept his revenue goals through tax reform rather than raising tax rates.


We'll get to that, too! President Obama has already said ... after we deal with this cliff thing, we'll look at closing loophole.

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Response to 1StrongBlackMan (Reply #3)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 08:03 PM

4. Trouble is, there aren't many "loopholes"

A loophole is a bug in the system -- something that accidentally overlooks a certain category of income or that was supposed to help the little buy but turns out to make big tax savings possible for the wealthy. And there just aren't a lot of those.

So what the GOP is really talking about is credits and deductions that were deliberately enacted to help the middle class. Things like the deduction for employer-provided health insurance, itemized medical expenses, mortgage interest, or state and local taxes.

If you mess with those, it's the middle class you're harming. Even if you cap them, you're mainly affecting people in the $200,000-$400,000 range, because those sorts of deductions tend to max out at a certain point. You're not even touching the ultra-wealthy unless you deal with things like capital gains rates and the inheritance tax.

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 09:31 PM

5. Repukes are pretending to feel sorry for themselves to manipulate the public

...into feeling sorry for them. It's one of the oldest tricks in a psycho's playbook.

If there's anyone who's malevolent and spiteful, it's the rethugs.

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 10:20 PM

6. And the damned NRA better sink down into hell with them.

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Sat Dec 15, 2012, 04:13 AM

7. Amazingly, time after time, TRUTH surfaces above the bullshit

The founding fathers succeeded above their wildest hopes in most cases. They set up a system which strives to be dependent on truth and fairness and eventually the truth surfaces over lies. Republicans entire philosophy over the past 100 years has been based on one lie upon another.. ie.. Nixon, Reagan, Bush 1 and 2.

I am never able to understand why Democrats fail to just bring up the truth in so many cases.

Do they believe it?

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