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Wed Dec 12, 2012, 06:09 PM

ROMNEY WINS!!!

Politifact's Lie of the Year, for his Jeep-to-China line of bullshit

Congratulations, Willard!

It was a lie told in the critical state of Ohio in the final days of a close campaign -- that Jeep was moving its U.S. production to China. It originated with a conservative blogger, who twisted an accurate news story into a falsehood. Then it picked up steam when the Drudge Report ran with it. Even though Jeep's parent company gave a quick and clear denial, Mitt Romney repeated it and his campaign turned it into a TV ad.

And they stood by the claim, even as the media and the public expressed collective outrage against something so obviously false.

People often say that politicians don’t pay a price for deception, but this time was different: A flood of negative press coverage rained down on the Romney campaign, and he failed to turn the tide in Ohio, the most important state in the presidential election.

PolitiFact has selected Romney's claim that Barack Obama "sold Chrysler to Italians who are going to build Jeeps in China" at the cost of American jobs as the 2012 Lie of the Year.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2012/dec/12/lie-year-2012-Romney-Jeeps-China/

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Reply ROMNEY WINS!!! (Original post)
Adenoid_Hynkel Dec 2012 OP
Mike Nelson Dec 2012 #1
Adenoid_Hynkel Dec 2012 #2
lob1 Dec 2012 #3
Adenoid_Hynkel Dec 2012 #4
dballance Dec 2012 #5
patrice Dec 2012 #6
demwing Dec 2012 #9
budkin Dec 2012 #7
Drunken Irishman Dec 2012 #8
Kahuna Dec 2012 #10
Liberal_in_LA Dec 2012 #11
davidpdx Dec 2012 #12
Drunken Irishman Dec 2012 #14
davidpdx Dec 2012 #15
Cha Dec 2012 #18
Kahuna Dec 2012 #21
Politicub Dec 2012 #13
lob1 Dec 2012 #16
Cha Dec 2012 #17
Franker65 Dec 2012 #19
jimmy the one Dec 2012 #20
yellowcanine Dec 2012 #22
politicaljunkie41910 Dec 2012 #23
drlindaphd Dec 2012 #24
Filibuster Harry Dec 2012 #25

Response to Adenoid_Hynkel (Original post)

Wed Dec 12, 2012, 06:11 PM

1. CNN

...headline!

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Response to Mike Nelson (Reply #1)

Wed Dec 12, 2012, 06:12 PM

2. CNN says there is no clear winner in this race

and we'll never know who the victor is

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Response to Adenoid_Hynkel (Original post)

Wed Dec 12, 2012, 06:13 PM

3. ...and the 2nd biggest lie goes to...Mitt Romney. And the 3rd biggest lie goes to...

Mitt Romney. And the 4th biggest lie goes to...Mitt Romney. And the 5th biggest....

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Response to lob1 (Reply #3)

Wed Dec 12, 2012, 06:15 PM

4. Dick Morris was right

it's a Romney landslide

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Response to Adenoid_Hynkel (Original post)

Wed Dec 12, 2012, 06:19 PM

5. They Did Have SO MANY From Which to Choose From Romney's Campaign

I don't know how they narrowed it down to just one. They probably should have altered the award to "LIAR" of the year/decade.

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Response to Adenoid_Hynkel (Original post)

Wed Dec 12, 2012, 06:23 PM

6. The only way they could have expected to get away with that would be that they so totally expected

to WIN that it didn't matter that they had lied about anything.

NOW, why would they have been soooooooooooooo certain? Hmmmmmmm????

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Response to patrice (Reply #6)

Wed Dec 12, 2012, 07:19 PM

9. because they're idiots

with a sense of royal entitlement.

No conspiracy theory needed to explain that

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Response to Adenoid_Hynkel (Original post)

Wed Dec 12, 2012, 06:55 PM

7. The winning lie should have just been Mitt Romney himself.

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Response to Adenoid_Hynkel (Original post)

Wed Dec 12, 2012, 07:16 PM

8. I actually think this was a devastating moment for Romney...

I don't believe he would've won had the ad never aired, but in the final days of the campaign, the news media it garnered was absolutely positively negative across the board. They say any publicity is good publicity - not true. Romney lost any chance at momentum heading into the final week when this ad was decimated by the media.

It just furthered the narrative that Romney would say and do anything to win.

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Response to Drunken Irishman (Reply #8)

Wed Dec 12, 2012, 07:41 PM

10. I agree. I suggested to Heilemann and Halperin that they name their book about this election...

"The Last Big Lie." Subtitled, "or how the lie about Jeep sealed Mitt's fate."



P.S. I don't think that lie cost him the election, but the title IS catchy, no?

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Response to Adenoid_Hynkel (Original post)

Wed Dec 12, 2012, 07:58 PM

11. it was a big %$# lie. Glad Romney didn't get away with it

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Response to Adenoid_Hynkel (Original post)

Wed Dec 12, 2012, 08:33 PM

12. It was a pretty stupid move on his part

and may have helped cemented a few states at the last minute for Obama. I'd try to count how many times in the campaign he should have kept his mouth closed but I'd lose interest and fall asleep.

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Response to davidpdx (Reply #12)

Wed Dec 12, 2012, 08:36 PM

14. I think it was a big reason Obama won Michigan by the margin he did...

Michigan was not in play - but it was thought to be more competitive than it eventually was.

Obama won the state by 10 points, yet pre-election polls put his lead there at just 4%.

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Response to Drunken Irishman (Reply #14)

Wed Dec 12, 2012, 08:41 PM

15. But also there is the question how much the polls were off

We know the polling tended to underestimate Obama's numbers. I agree thought it helped him in Michigan and probably Ohio as well.

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Response to davidpdx (Reply #12)

Thu Dec 13, 2012, 04:26 AM

18. In romney's fucked up mind.. it was going to have the

opposite effect. They were living in 2004 when Senator Kerry was swiftboated and all their lies worked.. same with bush and Gore in 2000.

What was shocking was the "media" was calling out Mitt's LIE.. I still can't believe David Gregory got in on it! Funny, none of the Con strategists bring up this Lie of Year when they whine about why mitt LOST.

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Response to Cha (Reply #18)

Thu Dec 13, 2012, 06:51 AM

21. The problem is, mitt and the repukes tried to "define" a president the voters already knew.

The voters knew that say what you will about Obama, he's a stand-up guy. To try to paint Obama as a shifty, disingenuous liar just wasn't going to work.

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Response to Adenoid_Hynkel (Original post)

Wed Dec 12, 2012, 08:35 PM

13. The lie wasn't big enough

He should have said that the whole state of Ohio was being moved to china to build iPhones.

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Response to Adenoid_Hynkel (Original post)

Thu Dec 13, 2012, 01:46 AM

16. A lot of his lies could've sunk him, but I think it was his one truth that got him.

His 47% speech, where for the first time he told the unshielded truth, was his death blow. He accidentally committed suicide.

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Response to Adenoid_Hynkel (Original post)

Thu Dec 13, 2012, 04:17 AM

17. It's only right that romney win for the biggest Lie of the Year..

Stuff that down the corporate plutocratic media's gullet.

Remember Ralph Giles, Vice President of Chrysler Design Tweeting mitt was "bullshit"? rofl

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Response to Adenoid_Hynkel (Original post)

Thu Dec 13, 2012, 05:23 AM

19. At least he'll be happy having won something this year...

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Response to Adenoid_Hynkel (Original post)

Thu Dec 13, 2012, 06:27 AM

20. Limbaugh actually won the poll

politifact: >> First place went to Rush Limbaugh, for his comments on health care being "the largest tax increase in the history of the world." Many readers commented that they voted not for that particular statement, but because they think Limbaugh generally distorts the truth.

Here are the full results:
1 --*"Obamacare is.. the largest tax increase in the history of the world." -- Rush Limbaugh 26.6%

2 -- Obama was saying success "is the result of government," not "hard-working people," when he said, "If you've got a business, you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen." -- a campaign video from the Mitt Romney campaign 20%

3 --Obama "sold Chrysler to Italians who are going to build Jeeps in China" at the cost of American jobs. -- a TV ad from the Romney campaign 18.7%

4 --"Under Obama’s plan (for welfare), you wouldn’t have to work and wouldn’t have to train for a job. They just send you your welfare check."TV ad from Romney campaign 13.1%

5 --Barack Obama began his presidency "with an apology tour."--Romney 10.4%

6 --"Over the last four years, the deficit has gone up, but 90% is as a consequence" of President GWBush’s policies and the recession. -- Obama 5.6%

7 --Romney and Bain Capital are to blame in a woman’s premature death when they closed the plant where her husband worked. -- Priorities USA Action, super PAC that supported Barack Obama 3.1%<<<<<<<

So romney campaign or romney pacs rec'd ~62% of the votes for 'best lie', while limbaugh rec'd plurality high 26%, and obama's side rec'd about 9%. I think that's about the proper ratio, 8 to 1 ('other' rec'd the remaining couple percents).

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Response to Adenoid_Hynkel (Original post)

Thu Dec 13, 2012, 09:49 AM

22. CNN and others saying it was a "dead heat" from September right up to the election ranks up there

as the Lie of the Year,imo.

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Response to Adenoid_Hynkel (Original post)

Thu Dec 13, 2012, 12:27 PM

23. The scary part is that Romney used to be a Bishop in his church

but felt that it was okay to lie to the American people over and over again. I guess that puts him right smack in good company with the other evangelicals on the right who think lying at any cost is an appropriate tactic.

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Response to Adenoid_Hynkel (Original post)

Thu Dec 13, 2012, 04:00 PM

24. This is not the first time

Does anyone recall "President Dewey". The headlines in 1948 read Dewey beats Truman. I am sure President Truman enjoyed that while he prepared for his Inaguration; his second term as president. Truman, a democrat, was not expected to win, at least by the Republicans of the day. Another case of hubris.

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Response to Adenoid_Hynkel (Original post)

Thu Dec 13, 2012, 04:02 PM

25. yeah that and Big Bird did it to Romney. Not the hurricane but Romney and his lies!!!

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