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Tue Dec 11, 2012, 04:28 PM

Mainstream Press In Fear Of Internet Virality of Mann & Ornstein Critique (VIDEO)


The mainstream press is starting to listen. Its fear of irrelevancy was evident in a nine minute segment on MSNBC’s The Daily Run Down where Chuck Todd interviewed Thomas Mann and Norman Ornstein on media reaction to their book “Its Even Worse Than It Looks How the American Constitutional System Collided With the New Politics of Extremism” and subsequent Washington Post essay “Lets just say it: The Republicans are the problem”.

This segment demanded a post mortem. It shows that the mainstream press is actively engaged with what is occurring in the alternate media, but seem unwilling or unable to correct their modus operandi.

The introduction to the segment is fascinating. Chuck Todd relays the premise of Mann and Ornstein’s argument with a sarcastic caveat where he implies that their ostracism from the mainstream media was imagined. Their appearance on The Daily Run Down is likely the outcome of the impact the virality of their piece had on the Internet.

(VIDEO HERE)

Later in the interview Chuck Todd tries to defend the ineptitude of the mainstream media implying that balanced coverage was based on the party really believing the tenets it was espousing.

(VIDEO HERE)

His defense is a factually inaccurate characterization of how the press has been covering Republicans. One need only revisit the Healthcare debate. Much of the bill, (mandates, private insurance, etc.) was a product of the conservative think tank “The Heritage Foundation”, yet Republicans opposed the bill on grounds they once stood for.

Whether a party believes and is convicted to a particular position should be immaterial to the press. If its policies are not fact based, or does not confirm to reality, or historical data, that must be reported.

The press has allowed the Republican message stating that the wealthy are job creators to be placed into the public domain unchallenged, yet as the wealthy has gotten wealthier proportional job growth has lagged. When wealthy entrepreneur Nick Hanauer gave a TED Talk about the middle class being the real job creators, it was not released because TED claimed it was too partisan. Pressure from the Internet eventually forced its release.

In the clip below Norman Ornstein hits it on the nail. The press simply needs to tell the truth, not be spun, and expose the lies and inconsistencies. Most importantly do not be forced to accept false equivalencies.

(VIDEO HERE)

Immediately after Ornstein talks about false equivalences, Chuck Todd shows that he still does not get why the mainstream press is held in disrepute. He immediately tries to link the past Democratic intransigence with the debt ceiling debate, with the economically damaging one perpetrated by the Republicans in 2011.

(VIDEO HERE)

Chuck Todd’s comment in the closing portion of the segment says it all. He shows that the mainstream press is fearful that activists both on the left and the right are making them irrelevant.

(VIDEO HERE)

The reality is that the mainstream press is already irrelevant. The mainstream press has lost its value to the Right because the Right does not require balance; it requires capitulation to a false reality. The mainstream press has lost its integrity on the left for its attempt at being fair and balance. Balance with the existence of a Republican Party void of truth, reality, and morality; inherently requires unfairness and rejection of truth.

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PoliticalBiker Dec 2012 #1
bemildred Dec 2012 #2
question everything Dec 2012 #3
Cosmocat Dec 2012 #4
union_maid Dec 2012 #5

Response to egbertowillies (Original post)

Tue Dec 11, 2012, 04:47 PM

1. On the x-mas list

Hopefully I can afford to get myself that book for x-mas.

A long time ago in college, I wrote a paper on the relationship between government and the media.
At the outset, I was idealistic in that I believed the mainstream media to be *true* journalistically oriented.
I believed that the relationship was mutually beneficial.
Now however.... I was young and stoopid.
Oh, and I was a republican then too...
Now I believe that a Progressive Independant is the right place to be

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Response to egbertowillies (Original post)

Wed Dec 12, 2012, 09:34 AM

2. TV news made itself irrelevant by selling out for ad money.

You can do infotainment or you can do news, you can't do both.

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Response to egbertowillies (Original post)

Wed Dec 12, 2012, 07:34 PM

3. Wether in print or on the air

the right wing never bother to offer a balanced approach while the center seems to walk on eggs, afraid to be labeled as "left" or "liberal."

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Response to question everything (Reply #3)

Thu Dec 13, 2012, 06:47 AM

4. I keep saying - flat out they simply need to stop

kissing the republican's asses.

I do it constantly, and it can be down with strength and conviction, while also with proper tone, to flat out call out the nonsense.

It is simple.

THAT IS NOT TRUE.

BABBLE, BABBLE, BABBLE.

IT IS NOT TRUE.

It has taken going on two decades now of the media completely caving, but all republican's know now is the media capitulating to them. They just bully through what few limp initial pushback they get.

They will not stop until for a VERY LONG period of time these jackasses actually do their jobs.

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Response to egbertowillies (Original post)

Thu Dec 13, 2012, 06:55 AM

5. It's really ironic

Back in the days when TV news was not expected to be profitable we had so much less of it. A couple of hours a day, or maybe a little more, on each of the three networks. But so much more of it involved actual information. Of course, back then newspapers were also an essential source for anyone who wanted to be really informed. I guess we have a ways to go to work out this 21st century stuff.

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