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Sun Dec 9, 2012, 07:51 PM

America Dodged A Bullet Despite A Negligent Press

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Obamacare has death panels. President Obama was born in Kenya. Taxing the top 2% will kill jobs. The Rich are the job creators. Obamacare throws grandma off the cliff. Obamacare increases the deficit. President Obama removed the work requirement from the food stamp program.

The previous statements are all provably false. There needed to be no further debate on their veracity. It is fact that water boils at 100 degrees centigrade at sea level. There is no other side to that fact and as such it warrants no further debate. Attempting to entertain an “alchemist” questioning the validity of the boiling point of water would serve no useful purpose to society. In fact it would give the fallacy of water not boiling at 100 degrees centigrade at sea level the air of plausibility.

The current state of the press, the mainstream media, is described accurately if not sufficiently critical of in Dan Froomkin’s blog post at The Huffington Post titled “How the Mainstream Press Bungled the Single Biggest Story of the 2012 Campaign”.

Froomkin states:

Post-mortems of contemporary election coverage typically include regrets about horserace journalism, he-said-she-said stenography, and the lack of enlightening stories about the issues.

But according to longtime political observers Thomas Mann and Norman Ornstein, campaign coverage in 2012 was a particularly calamitous failure, almost entirely missing the single biggest story of the race: Namely, the radical right-wing, off-the-rails lurch of the Republican Party, both in terms of its agenda and its relationship to the truth.

Mann and Ornstein are two longtime centrist Washington fixtures who earlier this year dramatically rejected the strictures of false equivalency that bind so much of the capital's media elite and publicly concluded that GOP leaders have become "ideologically extreme; scornful of compromise; unmoved by conventional understanding of facts, evidence and science; and dismissive of the legitimacy of its political opposition."

The 2012 campaign further proved their point, they both said in recent interviews. It also exposed how fabulists and liars can exploit the elite media's fear of being seen as taking sides.

The misinformation that the media have been complicit in making part of the political debate did not start with the 2012 election or with the election of President Obama. It has been ongoing at least since the 1980 elections. In the primaries between George HW Bush and Ronald Reagan, the press was derelict by giving plausibility to Reagan’s supply side economic policies which Bushed coined as voodoo economics. The media was again derelict in not examining the inconsistency of the pairing of Reagan/Bush. This dereliction made Reagan/Bush plausible. Their win created the systematic decline of the middle class because the core of their policies was maintained.

Inasmuch as there is correlation between the decline of the middle class relative to the level of supply side policies in effect, the press has continued to give supply side credence even as it disregards economists like Nobel Prize winner Paul Krugman, Joseph Stiglitz, and Richard Wolff, whose pronouncement match the realities of what actually occurred in the economy.

It is the purpose of the press to be the unbiased source of information for the citizenry to ensure that the government is transparent. While politicians controlled by corporate moneyed interest are responsible for the failure of government, it is the press that has allowed it to happen by keeping the citizenry misinformed and uninformed. This likely occurs either from an attempt to appear unbiased or simply for the sake of financial survival. After-all, a free press dependent on revenues from corporations whose goal is to control government, cannot be a free press.

The paradigm shift of a less centralized media is the only solution to a negligent mainstream media. Luckily with this election that realization is starting to bear fruit. Inasmuch as corporations have spent an inordinate amount of money to influence the 2012 election, alternative message delivery played a strong role in preventing fallacies from both the mainstream media and corporate advertising to take significant effect. America dodged a bullet by having an open Internet where alternate messaging could be disseminated. Going forward it is imperative that one fight to keep this medium open. Its success may be its biggest danger.

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Reply America Dodged A Bullet Despite A Negligent Press (Original post)
egbertowillies Dec 2012 OP
Beartracks Dec 2012 #1
truebluegreen Dec 2012 #3
politicaljunkie41910 Dec 2012 #2
truebluegreen Dec 2012 #4
CurtEastPoint Dec 2012 #6
truebluegreen Dec 2012 #9
freshwest Dec 2012 #8
truebluegreen Dec 2012 #11
freshwest Dec 2012 #13
2naSalit Dec 2012 #15
freshwest Dec 2012 #17
2naSalit Dec 2012 #18
ReRe Dec 2012 #16
truebluegreen Dec 2012 #19
Blanks Dec 2012 #5
coalition_unwilling Dec 2012 #12
Blanks Dec 2012 #24
mountain grammy Dec 2012 #7
love_katz Dec 2012 #10
BlancheSplanchnik Dec 2012 #14
BlueMTexpat Dec 2012 #20
Faryn Balyncd Dec 2012 #21
Cosmocat Dec 2012 #22
Lugia Dec 2012 #23
intheflow Dec 2012 #25
BlueCaliDem Dec 2012 #26
Proud Liberal Dem Dec 2012 #27
PoliticalBiker Dec 2012 #28
bvar22 Dec 2012 #29
PoliticalBiker Dec 2012 #30
DCBob Dec 2012 #31
Blue Idaho Dec 2012 #32
DonCoquixote Dec 2012 #33
Doctor_J Dec 2012 #34

Response to egbertowillies (Original post)

Sun Dec 9, 2012, 08:03 PM

1. "dismissive of the legitimacy of its political opposition"

I recall that starting with Newt Gingrich and the "freshman class of 1994."

Dear media: It's okay to take sides in the matter of TRUTH vs. FICTION. It's okay. Really.

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Response to Beartracks (Reply #1)

Sun Dec 9, 2012, 08:19 PM

3. In fact, Dear Media,

it's your JOB!

Didn't you go to school to be something besides stenographers?

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Response to egbertowillies (Original post)

Sun Dec 9, 2012, 08:18 PM

2. I too began to notice back around 1980 that a number of newspaper journalists, mainly conservative,

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began having books published, with conservative slants, while they were on the payroll of major newspapers. (BTW I have a link to the same article.) I thought then that this couldn't be healthy for journalism, and the NEWS if you have a political slant on your view of the world, and now are trying to sell books. This was obviously back in the day when newspapers still had writers of both persuasion, and rightwing talk radio had only begun to blossom. Now we have a "free press" and everyone has an agenda, and everyone is out to make a buck and the truth be damned. It's whatever sells and we know that usually means right wing fanaticism because their new world order crap sells books.

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Response to politicaljunkie41910 (Reply #2)

Sun Dec 9, 2012, 08:24 PM

4. Google "Lewis Powell Memo".

If I believed in Hell, I'd wish he was there.

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Response to truebluegreen (Reply #4)

Sun Dec 9, 2012, 10:01 PM

6. Did not know this and it's a precedent for Citizens United.

Fucking asshole. Hell, indeed.

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Response to CurtEastPoint (Reply #6)

Sun Dec 9, 2012, 10:23 PM

9. Yup.

They've been working on this for decades.

Everything they believe is anathema. This is NOT our parents' Republican Party. I'm not even sure they are from this planet.

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Response to truebluegreen (Reply #4)

Sun Dec 9, 2012, 10:22 PM

8. The text of the Powell Manifesto at this link:

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Response to freshwest (Reply #8)

Sun Dec 9, 2012, 10:26 PM

11. Thank you, Fresh West. nt

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Response to truebluegreen (Reply #11)

Sun Dec 9, 2012, 10:45 PM

13. Thanks for bringing it here. I'd only read of the Frank Luntz and Lee Atwater's methods.

Our country undone from within, yet never meeting the legal standard of sedition. The ideals of the Enlightenment are fragile things.

'And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.'

I'm not religious. But I've always believed that a good example is the best way to persuade. I don't know how to get through to such people.

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Response to freshwest (Reply #13)

Sun Dec 9, 2012, 11:25 PM

15. And then there's also this...

Listen to Bernie, he tells the truth and so does Bill Moyers...

http://billmoyers.com/segment/bernie-sanders-on-why-big-media-shouldnt-get-bigger/

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Response to 2naSalit (Reply #15)

Mon Dec 10, 2012, 12:01 AM

17. Oh, I've been in this marching band for years. Since the FCC flew around the country with Shrub's

Michael 'The Free Market Is MY GOD!' Powell going around to do what the law required as they prepared to screw us some more.

One of them was in my city, and people turned out there, as well as across the nation to stop some of the last of the media consolidation planned.

The speakers were well-informed, passionate and numerous. Of course, Shrub's hand-picked FCC Commissioner just went through the motions.

In the end, I realized they were letting us 'vent' as if we were children and the law be damned. That quote I wrote up there in between Powell's given name and his surname?

I watched him say it on television. What a tool.

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Response to freshwest (Reply #17)

Mon Dec 10, 2012, 12:09 AM

18. I remember that too

it was a time when the Shock Doctrine was becoming all too painfully clear. And I agree, what a tool. Fortunately Copps is still there, not sure who else is on that panel, guess I need to have a look.

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Response to freshwest (Reply #8)

Sun Dec 9, 2012, 11:50 PM

16. BINGO! DING-DING-DING-DING-DING BINGO!

freswest. Has this Powell Manifesto every been an OP? If it has, I missed it. (And I do miss a lot these days.) And if it has, it needs to be OPed over and over and over again until everyone on DU has read it. From top to bottom.

What sticks out is the fact that they not only implemented it, but have turned into what this manifesto attacked!

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Response to freshwest (Reply #8)

Mon Dec 10, 2012, 12:10 AM

19. When I was young and naive...

I always wondered about "think tanks."

Who were they? It seemed very strange: People who were paid by other people to sit around and think and come up with ideas.

"Dream up", as it happens; no connection with reality.

I always wondered who paid them. Charity? (I said I was naive.)

Now I know.

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Response to egbertowillies (Original post)

Sun Dec 9, 2012, 10:01 PM

5. Advertising...

is what determines what the media covers and what they don't.

It is how they pay their bills. Everyone is cognizant of the fact that our politicians are owned by corporations; nobody seems to recognize that they control the media the same way.

I watched ABC this morning and all of the commercials were either BP or Fracking. I was watching the news telling how it is flu season; get your shot. All of the commercials were pharmaceutical companies.

I don't understand why people think any news outlet should be unbiased when it has to make its living on advertising.

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Response to Blanks (Reply #5)

Sun Dec 9, 2012, 10:34 PM

12. The whole notion that the media could ever be 'unbiased' is a historically

 

conditioned trope that rose to maturity after World War II when newspapers strove to acquire some of the patina of objective 'science' and its claims to present objective truth.

If you look at American print journalism in the 19th Century and well into the 20th, you will find that the media was intensely partisan, with each journalistic vehicle having a peculiarly partisan slant and appealing to a specific demographic or political group.

The fallacy, imho, is that people think the news media exist to provide the news. They do not. The news media exist solely to sell advertising and the 'news' (pseudo-objective or blatantly partisan) is but a means to make the sale.

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Response to coalition_unwilling (Reply #12)

Mon Dec 10, 2012, 09:17 AM

24. They are a business, and that is their business model.

If everyone would just look at it that way instead of expecting them to behave in a 'non-business' way; we might be able to combat it.

People need to pay attention to the sponsors during the news segments, and ask themselves why that business would be paying the network to run that story.

Why does Fox News favor conservatives? Does it have something to do with the fact that their sponsors favor conservative policies?

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Response to egbertowillies (Original post)

Sun Dec 9, 2012, 10:09 PM

7. I considered myself educated and well informed; then the internet came along

and I realized I knew nothing. Now, I still know nothing, but a little bit more, often way more than I want to know, but, just so you know, nobody gets away with nothing any more.

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Response to egbertowillies (Original post)

Sun Dec 9, 2012, 10:24 PM

10. Some of us know where the media was...

tucked deep into the pockets of the ownership class.

As another poster so aptly points out, the media presents whatever will allow them to sell more advertising. And they can't afford to upset powerful corporate apple carts.

Cable t.v. was supposed to be an answer to that: no advertising, and subscriber supported.

Snort...we can see how long that lasted.

It is very frightening to think of the ownership class taking over the 'net. Yikes.

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Response to egbertowillies (Original post)

Sun Dec 9, 2012, 11:16 PM

14. saving for later. nt

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Response to egbertowillies (Original post)

Mon Dec 10, 2012, 03:48 AM

20. I used to read Dan Froomkin's blog at the WaPo all the time.

It was literally a one-stop shop discussing the most relevant issues of the day, with links to all stories discussed. It was literally a public service.

Instead of dumping RW wackos like Krauthammer and bringing on idiots like Rubin, the Post terminated Froomkin's column, to my everlasting dismay.

But the WaPo's loss is certainly HuffPo's gain.

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Response to egbertowillies (Original post)

Mon Dec 10, 2012, 07:53 AM

21. The Right Wing controlof the "liberal" MSM is the emperor's clothes.

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Response to egbertowillies (Original post)

Mon Dec 10, 2012, 08:03 AM

22. At this point, it would be a MAJOR gain

if they simply stopped kissing the republican's asses ...

seriously.

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Response to egbertowillies (Original post)

Mon Dec 10, 2012, 08:52 AM

23. Obama threw a grandma off a cliff?

Haven't heard that one before. o.O

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Response to egbertowillies (Original post)

Mon Dec 10, 2012, 11:01 AM

25. Press not only negligent in reporting RW nuttery as legit for the purpose of balance,

it also is negligent in under-reporting LW concerns, i.e., every environmental and peace action, labor rights and the rise of the militarized police/prison-industrial complex. Where's the progressive balance to those reports? Why are we the nutcases who can't be part of the national conversation while teabaggers are slashing our schools and communities fighting for corporate masters who don't give a shit about regular people?

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Response to egbertowillies (Original post)

Mon Dec 10, 2012, 11:10 AM

26. My favorite quote of the piece . . .

After-all, a free press dependent on revenues from corporations whose goal is to control government, cannot be a free press.

Effing spot on!

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Response to egbertowillies (Original post)

Mon Dec 10, 2012, 11:13 AM

27. We did indeed

but we're still far from "safety" IMHO and the press is still working hard with the Republicans on getting those Social Security/Medicare cuts they are lusting over.

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Response to egbertowillies (Original post)

Mon Dec 10, 2012, 12:31 PM

28. Just put their book...

... on my x-mas list...

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Response to egbertowillies (Original post)

Mon Dec 10, 2012, 02:16 PM

29. "The paradigm shift of a less centralized media is the only solution "

Then
BOHICA

Even MORE Media Consolidation scheduled before Christmas.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021896902

And THIS round of Consolidation is being pushed by President Obama's close personal friend,
Julius Genachowski, appointed by the President to Chair the FCC in 2009.






You will know them by their WORKS,
not by their rhetoric, promises, or excuses.
Solidarity99!
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Response to egbertowillies (Original post)

Mon Dec 10, 2012, 03:21 PM

30. Great Article

Going to have to get their book.

I've always thought *The Media* as an institution was too polluted by the quest for dollars. This makes them pro-republican in nature even while some claim to be liberal. They are all beholden to the all mighty dollar. MSNBC is an example... Remember Kieth Olbermann? He had the audacity to speak the truth and even implicate thier parent company in the hypocritical practices. The result? He got canned. Not because it wasn't true, but because it cast the company in a bad light. As a *media* company, they are supposed to be objective and truthful in their stories and practice that same objecivity in their business policy... practice what you preach kind of thing. Faux Snooze is a perfect example of dollars before truth mentality. It's reprehensible what they do. They do no research and broacast their *findings*, which we know there were none, as truthful. They repeat republican lies ad nausium and make no effort to verify claims.

One of the biggest problems is, we the people eat that up. We don't demand of them TRUTH. We don't demand of them FACT. It's as much our fault as it is theirs. We willfully repeat what is broadcast ad nausium as factual without critical thinking and questioning validity.

It begs the question, *Can a lie be told so often such that it becomes reality?* So much of the mainstream media will not call it for what it is.... a bald-faced lie is never called a lie... a stretch, a misrepresentation of facts, an inacuracy. Horse Feathers!!
A Lie is a Lie. And for cripes sake, when the lie is spewed forth, CALL THEM ON IT right then and there. The predisposition to not sound biased is total bullshit. If a lie is propagated by one side overwhelmingly more by one side than the other, it isn't a matter of appearing biased, it is a FACT that one side is lying more than the other. Quit playing pussy-foot with the truth!

Republicans are liars
Repubicans are supressing the vote
Republicans are favoring the wealthy
Republicans are cutting social programs to favor with wealty
Republicans are by their actions, Terrorists

TRUTH benefits our country... Lies do not. Exposing lies as lies helps the people... covering lies or burying them does not.

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Response to egbertowillies (Original post)

Mon Dec 10, 2012, 06:00 PM

31. It was sickening how the MSM allowed the lies to go on and on without a challenge.

The pressure to keep the race interesting far outweighed their commitment to truth and accuracy.

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Response to egbertowillies (Original post)

Mon Dec 10, 2012, 06:36 PM

32. One of the real problems is...

The pathological lying by the GOP and this year's standard bearers was so obvious, so incessant, so completely over the top that anyone with half a brain could see it was crap and nothing but crap. Joe and Jane Q Citizen understood how bizarre and ludicrous the GOP had become. When "The Media" ignored this insanity they lost credibility that will be very hard to recapture.

I think most Americans understand at a gut level that we no longer have "News Organizations" and that they have been replaced by "Entertainment Divisions" and the cult of personality.

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Response to egbertowillies (Original post)

Mon Dec 10, 2012, 07:56 PM

33. America dodged a bullet by having an open Internet where alternate messaging could be disseminated.

Well Duh

The fact is, for all the people who say "duh interweb killed journalism", the truth is, the media companies were already buying souls of journalists, and destroying those they could not buy off. It is only because the internet gave space to those THAT DID NOT HAVE A PROFIT MOTIVE that any truth was presented. Anyone that could be choked out, even PBS, was compromised. The reason people abandoned newspapers and magazines so quick is that they knew the talking heads were either already on the payroll or had a gun to their head.

Of course the powers that be know this..after all, why is the only "liberal" network a branch of Microsoft? Ever notice that MSNBC offers liberals candy like Rachel, but always gives the Joe Scab time as well? I may love Rachel, but I have no illusion about the fact that MSNBC is the network set up as the Diet brand liberalism, the people that get listened to before the hard leftists do. Current is only free because for the moment, the owners do not care about money as much, and that can always change. Of course, the same people that talk about Obama as if he is some Islamic plot are the same people who let Murdoch and the Saudis own Fox.

The point is, outside the internet, all media is compromised. Even on the internet, there are enough cranks and goons that it becomes hard to hear genuine voices. Keep in mind, the internet is under full assault from both left and right: from paid activists in their mother's basements sending out GOP talking points, to certain folks at the UN that really do not care that the Chinese and other nations really want to choke out any potential "Arab Spring" style actions where even the humble Twitter played a helpful role. We have to keep the internet free, because the minute it stops bring free, then the media will no longer to worry that someone can expose the truth they tried so hard to ignore or outright bury!

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Response to egbertowillies (Original post)

Mon Dec 10, 2012, 10:14 PM

34. Negligent my ass

they're a paid propaganda arm of the far-right.

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