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patricia92243

(12,591 posts)
Mon Nov 7, 2016, 03:25 PM Nov 2016

What was the first thing that turned you off of Trump? For me, it was when

he said the families of terrorists should be tortured. I assume families of other criminals would be next.

I have a close family member who was a pedophile. I'd hate to think me or any other members of our family would be held responsible for his horrible deeds.

Anyway, that was my first turn-off of Trump - many more to follow that are too numerous to list.

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What was the first thing that turned you off of Trump? For me, it was when (Original Post) patricia92243 Nov 2016 OP
When he announced his apparent hate for Muslims and Latinos. Thinkingabout Nov 2016 #2
Me too treestar Nov 2016 #6
when he said he was a republican gopiscrap Nov 2016 #3
100% Freddie Nov 2016 #78
When he sent his "team of private dicks" to Hawaii to investigatr Glamrock Nov 2016 #4
Yup. When he joined the "birther" crowd. Johnyawl Nov 2016 #47
Yeah, The Birther in Chief: Trump emulatorloo Nov 2016 #93
I hated him decades ago Emilybemily Nov 2016 #5
Me too. spiderpig Nov 2016 #16
Me too. Leghorn21 Nov 2016 #33
me too.. prairierose Nov 2016 #37
Ditto rickford66 Nov 2016 #71
Same here... it was back in the 80's Zing Zing Zingbah Nov 2016 #86
Enough decades ago that when I heard about one of his bankruptcies I was delighted, and hoped... bellmartin Nov 2016 #90
He is a birther POS and an obvious racist workinclasszero Nov 2016 #7
It has been SO many years ago, I can't remember. Frustratedlady Nov 2016 #8
Way back madamesilverspurs Nov 2016 #10
First time I saw and heard about him, years and years ago! n/t RKP5637 Nov 2016 #11
When he first accused Obama of not being born here. sarae Nov 2016 #12
Ditto OldHippieChick Nov 2016 #15
More a slowly dawning realisation of the horror canetoad Nov 2016 #13
Wow. qwlauren35 Nov 2016 #105
The Birther stuff was what set me off. Sorceress Nov 2016 #19
I live in NY He turns most people off here.... Historic NY Nov 2016 #20
It's hard to remember back that far leftynyc Nov 2016 #21
Decades ago during the whole Marla/Ivana affair eissa Nov 2016 #23
Birtherism. aaaaaa5a Nov 2016 #27
He was always a nothing to me katmondoo Nov 2016 #28
There's been so much that I can barely remember, but I think it was his relentless birtherism. manicraven Nov 2016 #29
His incompetence vlyons Nov 2016 #30
I was turned off the instant I learned of his existence years ago. cyberswede Nov 2016 #31
I never even watched his dumb reality show. There was something about him that made appleannie1 Nov 2016 #32
When he destroyed 2 huge Art Deco friezes to speed up building tRump Tower. SeattleVet Nov 2016 #34
When he made his "grand" appearance GWC58 Nov 2016 #35
Birtherism...outwardly racist and disrespectful.. HipChick Nov 2016 #36
When he declared he was running as a Republican. hamsterjill Nov 2016 #38
Central Park jogger case and his ad calling for the death penalty. Eugene Nov 2016 #39
when is evil idiot sons were killing big game animals patsimp Nov 2016 #40
The one that most stands out to me is when he mocked the disabled reporter. MoonRiver Nov 2016 #41
Me too! Lifelong Protester Nov 2016 #79
Agree--that was stunning. gratefultobelib Nov 2016 #104
Seriously what kind of person does that??? MoonRiver Nov 2016 #106
He opened his mouth Egnever Nov 2016 #42
Years ago when a teacher forced us to watch an episode of The Apprentice Downtown Hound Nov 2016 #43
When he came down the escalator... tallahasseedem Nov 2016 #44
New Jersey Generals Awsi Dooger Nov 2016 #46
I miss the USFL as well. Jimbo S Nov 2016 #65
Correct Awsi Dooger Nov 2016 #81
Trump turned me off with his arrogence and self promotion many years ago CajunBlazer Nov 2016 #50
I have never liked cheeto kimbutgar Nov 2016 #51
His speech patterns have always turned me off True Dough Nov 2016 #53
His announcement of candidacy as a REPUBLICAN BlueProgressive Nov 2016 #54
His utter lack of political experience. Pacifist Patriot Nov 2016 #56
The exchange with Rosie O'Donnell Libby2 Nov 2016 #57
His stupid hairdo said it all, except what comes out of his mouth. northoftheborder Nov 2016 #58
I have found him gross since I was first exposed to him in the 80s arely staircase Nov 2016 #59
Lol, the "R" next to his name... anoNY42 Nov 2016 #63
2012 - his involvement in the birther movement. eom Jimbo S Nov 2016 #67
Probably the whole "birther" thing Mad_Dem_X Nov 2016 #68
When he started his bigoted rant against immigrants. I think that is when he attracted Hoyt Nov 2016 #70
I just thought he was a conceited douchebag until the birther stuff... jcgoldie Nov 2016 #72
One key offense is when he mocked reporter Serge Kovaleski's disabilty. CentralMass Nov 2016 #73
In the '80s when he obviously lied and bragged his way around the NYC tabloid papers. Squinch Nov 2016 #74
I never thought anything other than that he is an asshole. CanonRay Nov 2016 #75
Birther jzodda Nov 2016 #76
Back when he used to tussle with Merv Griffin. LisaM Nov 2016 #80
I cannot think of a time I thought he would be an acceptable president... Wounded Bear Nov 2016 #82
Ego C_U_L8R Nov 2016 #83
Me? When he violated NCAA rules in 1982 and TrishaJ Nov 2016 #84
When I saw him for the first time. It was on Celebrity Apprentice. LAS14 Nov 2016 #87
The video of him mocking the disabled reporter. After that, nothing was shocking. CrispyQ Nov 2016 #88
Always thought he was a scumbag ramapo Nov 2016 #89
His announcement speech. Raine1967 Nov 2016 #92
On Tuesday, October 16, 1973, when his racism as a landlord was first exposed... malchickiwick Nov 2016 #95
Not sure about first. But, WORST MOMENT was mocking disabled reporter. Funtatlaguy Nov 2016 #96
The first time I read about him 35 years ago. GoneOffShore Nov 2016 #98
"Give Those Nymphs Some Hooters!" -- Doonesbury, 1989 brooklynite Nov 2016 #100
I was literally agape when he said 'blood coming out of her whereever'. Chemisse Nov 2016 #101
every since the 80s - I always had him pegged as a con artist lanlady Nov 2016 #103
Birtherism. nt Jamaal510 Nov 2016 #107
I have a vague memory of hearing Trump while in my mother's womb... JHan Nov 2016 #108
Birther crap, then his disgusting imitation of that reporter... Raine Nov 2016 #109
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gopiscrap

(23,725 posts)
3. when he said he was a republican
Mon Nov 7, 2016, 03:27 PM
Nov 2016

I have no use for republicans in my life, they can cease to exist as far as I am concerned.

Johnyawl

(3,205 posts)
47. Yup. When he joined the "birther" crowd.
Mon Nov 7, 2016, 04:07 PM
Nov 2016

I was a construction project manager from the mid eighties until my retirement last year, and in that industry in those years everybody knew who "The Donald" was. Big time wheeler-dealer with a flamboyant lifestyle. Never paid that much attention to him, never read his book, never watched his TV show. When he started with the birth certificate I realized he was just another racist piece of shit.

spiderpig

(10,419 posts)
16. Me too.
Mon Nov 7, 2016, 03:35 PM
Nov 2016

The first time I recall seeing him was on a 60 Minutes interview 30+ years ago. I thought "Who is this asshole?"

Leghorn21

(13,522 posts)
33. Me too.
Mon Nov 7, 2016, 03:54 PM
Nov 2016

When he first hit the scene ages ago, and I saw him on my teevee, I thought, whoa, this cretin here is hands down the most u n i n t e r e s t i n g carbon-based lifeform I have ever beheld in my entire life.
Today, of course, I have a variety of other responses to the Republican nominee for President, but a dullard is a dullard.
Uck just uck -

Zing Zing Zingbah

(6,496 posts)
86. Same here... it was back in the 80's
Mon Nov 7, 2016, 05:43 PM
Nov 2016

Seeing him on TV. I think probably Lifestyle of the Rich and Famous. Never liked him, but I despise him now.

bellmartin

(218 posts)
90. Enough decades ago that when I heard about one of his bankruptcies I was delighted, and hoped...
Mon Nov 7, 2016, 05:48 PM
Nov 2016

...never to have to hear about him again. And that was with the insulation of being way out here in the midwest. What a cancer he's been on the American scene.

Frustratedlady

(16,254 posts)
8. It has been SO many years ago, I can't remember.
Mon Nov 7, 2016, 03:30 PM
Nov 2016

I believe his ego was dripping all over his face and he made me ill. I think I must have the same powers as various dogs that have been shown on social media going crazy when they see Trump appear on TV. He does the same thing with me. I simply can't watch or listen to him. Perhaps it's survival mode?

madamesilverspurs

(15,798 posts)
10. Way back
Mon Nov 7, 2016, 03:30 PM
Nov 2016

when he tried to get Congress to change the rules on Native American gaming. He claimed the rules were unfair to privileged white casino owners.


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sarae

(3,284 posts)
12. When he first accused Obama of not being born here.
Mon Nov 7, 2016, 03:32 PM
Nov 2016

It became obvious very quickly that he was a racist POS.

I didn't even know about his housing discrimination in the `70s, or the Central Park Five in the early`90s, but if I had it would have been obvious even earlier.

canetoad

(17,135 posts)
13. More a slowly dawning realisation of the horror
Mon Nov 7, 2016, 03:33 PM
Nov 2016

of his character and positions.

Before the primaries, I knew who he was but don't watch TV so had never seen The Apprentice. Didn't really follow stories about him until he emerged as a potential candidate.

I honestly thought that at some stage he would metaphorically leap out of a cake and yell, 'Fooled you all.' That his unspeakable rhetoric was a stunt; a way of demonstrating how repulsive the GOP attitudes are. Never, ever bought into the CT that he'd been put up to it by the Clintons - that was too far-fetched.

Well, I waited for the denoument, and waited and it never came. Then I knew he was a monster in an orange skin.

qwlauren35

(6,145 posts)
105. Wow.
Mon Nov 7, 2016, 08:17 PM
Nov 2016

That really sums it up for me. I almost could have written what you said verbatim.

I still think he's going to jump out of a cake.

But at that candidates' dinner when he talked about how most of the people in the room had invited him into his homes until he started running for office, I wondered who had changed - them or him. And had they really changed or had he gotten too outrageous for them to be associated with him.

Sorceress

(309 posts)
19. The Birther stuff was what set me off.
Mon Nov 7, 2016, 03:38 PM
Nov 2016

But his absolute refusal to admit he is wrong or, heaven forbid apologize for anything ever, alerted me to what kind of disturbed person he really was. I knew then that this wasn't just a hateful person, this was a person who was suffering from some sort of personality or psychological disorder. In other words, he was a crazy pants.

Historic NY

(37,449 posts)
20. I live in NY He turns most people off here....
Mon Nov 7, 2016, 03:39 PM
Nov 2016
once you find out it always been about him. I live 3 miles from where he went to school and had a personal connection to the school. They asked him to help out and he refuse offering to build a building they didn't need with his name on it. In the end he used it to stage a campaign event.

eissa

(4,238 posts)
23. Decades ago during the whole Marla/Ivana affair
Mon Nov 7, 2016, 03:45 PM
Nov 2016

A smug, arrogant rich guy reveling in two women fighting over him. He seemed to bask in the publicity and almost seemed proud of all the lurid details being spilled out. I thought he was an even bigger prick during the whole shaming of Alicia Machado. He's always struck me as a very sexist, shallow piece of shit, and he's only gotten worse over the years.

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
30. His incompetence
Mon Nov 7, 2016, 03:52 PM
Nov 2016

Remember when he hired people to attend his first presser - as tho no reporter would inquire?

Or when he went thru endless chief of staffs? One stumble after another.

appleannie1

(5,060 posts)
32. I never even watched his dumb reality show. There was something about him that made
Mon Nov 7, 2016, 03:53 PM
Nov 2016

my teeth grind while my hair stood on end. Since long before his TV days. I call that instinctive behavior my pervert alert.

SeattleVet

(5,477 posts)
34. When he destroyed 2 huge Art Deco friezes to speed up building tRump Tower.
Mon Nov 7, 2016, 03:54 PM
Nov 2016

They were on the side of the Bonwit Teller building that tRump demolished to build his temple to opulence. The Metropolitan Museum of Art wanted to preserve them. When he discovered that this would delay demolition by 2 weeks, he had workers destroy them.

Mother Jones had a good summary of it. I remember how hated he was among New Yorkers when he pulled this crappy stunt.

Here's a better article, with a LOT more detail:

http://www.pressherald.com/2016/03/18/trumps-first-media-controversy-is-a-really-great-story/

He's been an unliked, irredeemable asshole for a LONG time.

GWC58

(2,678 posts)
35. When he made his "grand" appearance
Mon Nov 7, 2016, 03:56 PM
Nov 2016

down the TRUMP Tower escalator, then made his Mexican speech. Pretty much from the get go.

hamsterjill

(15,220 posts)
38. When he declared he was running as a Republican.
Mon Nov 7, 2016, 03:59 PM
Nov 2016

I don't vote for Republicans. End of story.

Everything else that he has done has been no surprise, although it is still disgusting. It is the culmination of years of hate, greed, fear mongering and sexism that IS the Republican party.

Eugene

(61,805 posts)
39. Central Park jogger case and his ad calling for the death penalty.
Mon Nov 7, 2016, 03:59 PM
Nov 2016

That was beyond the pale even before the Central Park Five were cleared.

The Trump Taj Mahal fiasco and his other financial blunders
only sealed the deal for me.

patsimp

(915 posts)
40. when is evil idiot sons were killing big game animals
Mon Nov 7, 2016, 04:00 PM
Nov 2016

trying to compensate for their tiny dicks, tiny minds, and ugly faces.

MoonRiver

(36,926 posts)
41. The one that most stands out to me is when he mocked the disabled reporter.
Mon Nov 7, 2016, 04:01 PM
Nov 2016

That was just so unnecessary and flat out cruel I could not believe it.

Downtown Hound

(12,618 posts)
43. Years ago when a teacher forced us to watch an episode of The Apprentice
Mon Nov 7, 2016, 04:03 PM
Nov 2016

I thought he was a douche bag then, and he has only made me lower my opinion of him ever since.

 

Awsi Dooger

(14,565 posts)
46. New Jersey Generals
Mon Nov 7, 2016, 04:06 PM
Nov 2016

I was betting the USFL heavily in the mid '80s. Trump made one idiotic comment and proposal after another. Very similar to today. He suckered some people, threw huge chunks of cash into a league that badly needed money and exposure, and initially it was viewed as a positive.

I was telling friends in Las Vegas it couldn't work, that Trump's involvement was a negative. The USFL had a nice niche in spring as a moderate league. Trump conned the other owners into voting to switch to fall. That was essentially the end. Trump assumed he could replicate the AFL success and bully his way into the NFL, with the Generals even if the league as a whole didn't transfer.

What a fool. I still remember where I was when the court ruling was announced, with the $1 verdict tripled. The jurors were stupid but not moreso than Trump and his inept assumptions.

There are many related articles online, with astute comments from Charley Steiner, among others.

I still miss the USFL.

CajunBlazer

(5,648 posts)
50. Trump turned me off with his arrogence and self promotion many years ago
Mon Nov 7, 2016, 04:31 PM
Nov 2016

Long before he started challenging President Obama's legitimacy as President

kimbutgar

(21,040 posts)
51. I have never liked cheeto
Mon Nov 7, 2016, 04:33 PM
Nov 2016

From as long as I remember something about him bugged me. What he did to Ivana bringing his mistress to Aspen and humiliating his wife and mother of his children told me all I needed to know about him. I watched maybe 5 minutes iof the apprentice and thought it was a stupid contrived show.

True Dough

(17,246 posts)
53. His speech patterns have always turned me off
Mon Nov 7, 2016, 04:35 PM
Nov 2016

Yes, the content of his many of statements is utterly disgusting, but the way he expresses it, especially with his repetition of the final phrase and the hand gestures is enough to make me turn the channel.

Pacifist Patriot

(24,652 posts)
56. His utter lack of political experience.
Mon Nov 7, 2016, 04:37 PM
Nov 2016

And the first time I saw him open his mouth he spewed incomprehensible gibberish. Can't even remember what it was about, but it made no sense whatsoever. Knew immediately he was not presidential material even though I knew next to nothing else about him since I have had no interest in his marital history, reality tv show, or business dealings.

1) No experience 2) Can't speak. Everything else has simply compounded the horror.

northoftheborder

(7,569 posts)
58. His stupid hairdo said it all, except what comes out of his mouth.
Mon Nov 7, 2016, 04:40 PM
Nov 2016

Don't remember when he became totally repulsive to me - never admired his lifestyle or watched his stupid show; probably when he started in on Obama's heritage.

arely staircase

(12,482 posts)
59. I have found him gross since I was first exposed to him in the 80s
Mon Nov 7, 2016, 04:41 PM
Nov 2016

He embodied the whole Lifestyles of the Rich and famous zeitgeist od the awful decade.

Mad_Dem_X

(9,546 posts)
68. Probably the whole "birther" thing
Mon Nov 7, 2016, 04:56 PM
Nov 2016

But, truthfully, I've always found him repugnant. That hair...that orange tan...that sense of entitlement...just a big walking pile of NOPE.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
70. When he started his bigoted rant against immigrants. I think that is when he attracted
Mon Nov 7, 2016, 05:03 PM
Nov 2016

the Deplorables. Before that, I thought he was just in it for publicity and he was much like most rich guys, a braggart. But that bigotry caught on with ignorant white wingers.

jcgoldie

(11,610 posts)
72. I just thought he was a conceited douchebag until the birther stuff...
Mon Nov 7, 2016, 05:08 PM
Nov 2016

He has done nothing but plunge in my estimation of his character ever since.

Squinch

(50,901 posts)
74. In the '80s when he obviously lied and bragged his way around the NYC tabloid papers.
Mon Nov 7, 2016, 05:32 PM
Nov 2016

He was obviously a liar and a cheat, and yet everyone seemed to believe him. Then that book came out - the art of the deal - when it was public knowledge that he had inherited all his money and sucked at business.

Just a distasteful slug for four decades. In all that time, there has always been a large part of the population that believed him, and it has always flummoxed me.

LisaM

(27,792 posts)
80. Back when he used to tussle with Merv Griffin.
Mon Nov 7, 2016, 05:40 PM
Nov 2016

He just seemed like a creepy thug with no taste. I guess the next time would be when I got a load of one of his ugly buildings.

Wounded Bear

(58,584 posts)
82. I cannot think of a time I thought he would be an acceptable president...
Mon Nov 7, 2016, 05:41 PM
Nov 2016

never, since years ago when the idea first surfaced. And I'm not even from NY/NJ.

TrishaJ

(797 posts)
84. Me? When he violated NCAA rules in 1982 and
Mon Nov 7, 2016, 05:42 PM
Nov 2016

had an agent contact Herschel Walker during his junior season at UGA because the Donald had a yuuuuuuge idea to start a new pro football league and he wanted Walker to sign with the New Jersey Generals. Aaaaand, like all Trump's other great ideas, it flopped. Walker had to forfeit his senior season at Georgia and go play with Donald Trump.

On edit: this was before the NFL started drafting underclassmen. So Walker had one more year of eligibility at Georgia.

CrispyQ

(36,413 posts)
88. The video of him mocking the disabled reporter. After that, nothing was shocking.
Mon Nov 7, 2016, 05:45 PM
Nov 2016

He is the the republican party without a filter. The GOP has courted the zealots, racists & loons for 30 years & now they've lost control & are surprised. Stupid shits. They created this monster & the media feeds it.

Raine1967

(11,589 posts)
92. His announcement speech.
Mon Nov 7, 2016, 05:52 PM
Nov 2016

I had more respect for Lindsey Graham at one of the early debates than I ever had for t-Rump This is something that for all that I despise about him, I think he made an intriguing point:



malchickiwick

(1,474 posts)
95. On Tuesday, October 16, 1973, when his racism as a landlord was first exposed...
Mon Nov 7, 2016, 06:31 PM
Nov 2016

...should have been when EVERYBODY turned off of the turd for all time (of course, myself, I was 4 years old at the time).

GoneOffShore

(17,336 posts)
98. The first time I read about him 35 years ago.
Mon Nov 7, 2016, 06:40 PM
Nov 2016

Short fingered vulgarian.

Oh, and working as a sub-contractor/strolling entertainer at a Trump casino in Atlantic City. A chill ran through the staff every time he showed his ugly mug.

Chemisse

(30,802 posts)
101. I was literally agape when he said 'blood coming out of her whereever'.
Mon Nov 7, 2016, 06:51 PM
Nov 2016

Silly me, I thought his candidacy was over that very minute.

lanlady

(7,133 posts)
103. every since the 80s - I always had him pegged as a con artist
Mon Nov 7, 2016, 07:08 PM
Nov 2016

I cheered when I heard about his bankruptcies in Atlantic City. Thought he'd go away & we'd never have to see his smug face again. Boy was I wrong!

JHan

(10,173 posts)
108. I have a vague memory of hearing Trump while in my mother's womb...
Tue Nov 8, 2016, 04:21 AM
Nov 2016

She was probably watching TV.

I knew then and there I could never vote for this man.

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